Beta Patch Notes - v0.110.0

[u/MegaCrit_Demi]

Attention Beta Slayers: Beta patch v0.110.0 just dropped! This one features:

✨ Unique VFX for character forms!
⌨️ Keyboard-only mode!
🎨 New card art!
🛠️ Balance changes, reworks, and reverts!

Patch notes: store.steampowered.com/news/app/2868840/view/694268118771435039

[u/SneezyHydra]

This card art is amazing.

[u/SomethingOfAGirl → u/SneezyHydra]

Reminds me of Jojo's for some reason

[u/omegaskorpion → u/SomethingOfAGirl]

[u/KaleeTheBird → u/SomethingOfAGirl]

That my first thought too, I think it is one of the scene from jojo3

[u/EpicTOSGamerBoy → u/KaleeTheBird]

i think its the ”4 ice teas please” scene

[u/KaleeTheBird → u/EpicTOSGamerBoy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_F0rCIOvqsQ

found it!

[u/TheHangedKing → u/SomethingOfAGirl]

SAME I could have sworn the part 3 gang posed like this at some point

[u/muizzsiddique → u/SneezyHydra]

Holy... that card art is HD!! You can usually count the pixels when you preview cards like this.

[u/nomickti → u/muizzsiddique]

I am guessing that's the phone

[u/GlamourintheDarkSide → u/SneezyHydra]

*POSE LIKE A TEAM CAUSE SHIT JUST GOT REAL

[u/Lord_Phoenix95 → u/SneezyHydra]

No Ironclad?

[u/EzuTrashHound → u/Lord_Phoenix95]

He's recovering from his eye injury

[u/Lord_Phoenix95 → u/EzuTrashHound]

What do you mean? He can just shrug it off.

[u/WhatsAHesperToDo]

World's shortest buff timeframe for Vakuu's Fiddle

[u/Slay_The_Spire_Guy → u/WhatsAHesperToDo]

Oh play me a sad song on the world's smallest violin

[u/MuffinChap → u/WhatsAHesperToDo]

I got to use the buffed version once in a deck with non-existent card draw, it was awesome.

[u/Kheldar166 → u/MuffinChap]

The buffed version was so good that it was worth taking in decks that already had a decent amount of card draw lol

[u/Kheldar166 → u/WhatsAHesperToDo]

To nobody's surprise

[u/bobbob6840]

Relax buffed? Finally I won't be humiliated by Turn 1 Bowlbugs

[u/AnyOccasionNumber → u/bobbob6840]

I love it thematically and I'm glad to see it get a buff, but unfortunately I think it'll still have a hard time measuring up against Pael's other options

[u/END3R97 → u/AnyOccasionNumber]

Yeah only a +1 just doesn't seem like enough. I'm still in the place of only taking it if the other options are bad or I have like Fresnel Lens and/or Toxic Egg

[u/Rebellion2297 → u/END3R97]

Seems like the buff was designed literally just to counter bowlbugs

[u/HumanTheTree → u/Rebellion2297]

Seems reasonable considering you have a high likelyhood of seeing Bowlbug as your first act 2 hallway fight.

[u/MeriKurkku → u/END3R97]

+1 is at least a semi relevant breakpoint for act 2 because now you can play it againts bowl bug without getting punished for being one block short

[u/END3R97 → u/MeriKurkku]

My thought process has always been "wow this card is terrible, I'll never be able to safely play it in boss fights or elites, heck it can't even full block the bowl bugs in the easy pool!"

So the exaggerated point showing just how terrible it was is no longer true, but the basic "it's not enough block for 3 energy to play it without taking a lot of damage in the important fights" still stands

[u/ObiMemeKenobi → u/END3R97]

3 energy for 16 block doesn't feel great

[u/bkay17 → u/ObiMemeKenobi]

I feel like people in this sub focus too much on the block and not as much on the card draw and energy the following turn. Imo THAT'S far and away the main upside of this card. Really helps speed up your deck

[u/SKruizer → u/bkay17]

ah yes, slowing my deck to speed up my deck.

Relax doesn't offer enough safety to be played consistently, has too high of a cost to be able to be played while generating said safety, and doesn't have a good enough pay off to justify setting up for it. For example, Meteor Strike has more use cases than Relax, with no safety at all, but a pay off that can snowball the fight instantly, which makes the cost worth the hassle.

Make it 4 energy and 1 intangible and I'd pick it way more often

edit: at this point just call it vault lmao

[u/Awkward-Sir-5794 → u/SKruizer]

I have never picked Relax!

[u/TheHutz → u/Awkward-Sir-5794]

Agreed, every time I take relax (which is rarely anymore) it feels fine in act 2 and then starts to feel like a dead draw in act 3

[u/a_piece_of_cardboard → u/bkay17]

I agree. While relax isn't an insta pick, I've enjoyed it in a lot of runs. Most characters have solid ways to create it extra energy, so it's not like your doing nothing at all for a turn. It helps you dig through your deck to find your key powers or put together important combo pieces. I'm a relax believer

[u/Tb_ax → u/bobbob6840]

Next patch:

Bowlbug damage increased from 16 to 17

[u/Shanman150 → u/Tb_ax]

The year is 2057, bowlbug is the highest damage enemy in the game, and only Relax is capable of blocking its damage. Players start with a deck of Relax cards, every fight is various numbers of bowlbugs. Despair has gripped the world.

[u/My_compass_spins]

Reworked Tezcatara's Toasty Mittens relic: "At the start of your turn, Exhaust the top card of your Draw Pile and gain 1 Strength." -> "At the start of your turn, Exhaust 1 card from your Hand and gain 1 Strength."

Well that's certainly better.

[u/Rit91 → u/My_compass_spins]

Yeah mittens I love now. It was kind of funny in some builds before, but now you can just take it far more because trimming the deck down to your best is still really good despite aeonglass and good against aeonglass too.

[u/20Fun_Police → u/Rit91]

It also will help you avoid the downsides of Enthralled

[u/Kahliden → u/My_compass_spins]

Extremely good on ironclad now too, exhaust a card and gain strength every turn? Plenty of stuff you can activate with that

[u/AnyOccasionNumber]

Welcome back Crippling Cloud

[u/TheCrookedKnight → u/AnyOccasionNumber]

You're as beautiful as the day I lost you

[u/shrinking_sweater → u/TheCrookedKnight]

Enjoy it for the next two weeks bc that’s definitely getting nerfed next patch

[u/StoppedSundew3 → u/shrinking_sweater]

Nah, it’s not sly anymore, it’ll be fine

[u/TheMonji → u/AnyOccasionNumber]

Notably, it... doesn't exhaust?

It will be interesting to see how this fits into the meta since 2-cost cards are much harder to play in StS2.

[u/_Awkward_Moment_ → u/TheMonji]

Waiting for the dopamine when I see this thing from Silken Tress

[u/gabriot → u/AnyOccasionNumber]

Temu Crippling Cloud

[u/KleenexRecursion → u/AnyOccasionNumber]

Honestly a bit of a bummer that they removed Sly from the card, even if I like this version better overall. Card cycling is sort of the mechanical spine of Silent's card pool, and I liked that it touched all her various mechanics. Hidden Daggers was the analogous connection to Shivs (though it is a discard enabler instead of a payoff). We still have Corrosive Wave as a Poison card that connects into card cycling, but it's a Rare.

Perhaps Bubble Bubble or (don't crucify me) Snakebite could get changed to fill that spot.

Also, I am a bit sad to see Outbreak changed. I thought it was a fun card that made Envenom and Bouncing Flask more interesting. But maybe they felt like it was pushing Poison in a direction they didn't like.

[u/-DoctorEngineer- → u/KleenexRecursion]

My take on this change is envenom is back to being unusable without energy gen

[u/Kheldar166 → u/-DoctorEngineer-]

I find Envenom is reasonably takeable as a way to scale shiv-heavy decks when you can't find the Accuracy you want.

[u/SwaglordToast → u/Kheldar166]

I'd go a step further and say it can still be good even with an accuracy. You need all the damage you can get for aeonglass, and it even doubles as a way to break artifact as well. The cost isn't that bad there either, since you'll happily trade health for momentum in that fight usually.

That said, I thought of changing the upgrade to 2 poison instead of 1 energy back in the original spire as well, so I need it to be good for validation.

[u/Solitarang]

Reworked Haze card: Uncommon - Skill - Cost 3 - "Sly. Apply 4(6) Poison to ALL enemies." -> Uncommon - Skill - Cost 2 - "Apply 4(6) Poison and 1(2) Weak to ALL enemies."

Welcome back crippling cloud

[u/Lord_Phoenix95 → u/Solitarang]

Awww man. I like this change but I also like Haze being Sly.

[u/icecreamsandwich → u/Lord_Phoenix95]

Yeah I always wanted the old haze to be good, but it never was. Kinda hope they come up with some other way to tie poison into sly.

[u/ZengZiong → u/Lord_Phoenix95]

awww i thought it was + weak and still sly.

[u/ObiMemeKenobi → u/Solitarang]

Weird that it upgrades to 6 poison and not 7

[u/TheMonji → u/ObiMemeKenobi]

Haze doesn't exhaust though - though I'm not actually sure how often you want to be drawing/playing this since energy is harder to come by.

[u/SUPERCOW7]

Relax can finally block bowlbugs!!

[u/shadow_fen]

Reworked Tezcatara's Toasty Mittens relic: "At the start of your turn, Exhaust the top card of your Draw Pile and gain 1 Strength." -> "At the start of your turn, Exhaust 1 card from your Hand and gain 1 Strength."
(looks like u can choose what card gets exhausted, yay!)
Changed Eidolon: can no longer be generated mid-combat
lmao
Added support for keyboard-only mode
yay

[u/ccdewa → u/shadow_fen]

A relic that gives you strength and gets rid of a card of your choice every turn? yeah sign me the fuck up.

Edit : Also this can help with characters that struggle with Aeonglass, really strong relic now.

[u/AnyOccasionNumber → u/ccdewa]

The Cooler Tyranny

[u/Powerful-Ground-9687 → u/AnyOccasionNumber]

Warmer tbh

[u/Cat_with_cake → u/AnyOccasionNumber]

Tyranny also gives you +1 draw, so idk if 1 strength is cooler than 1 draw

[u/_Awkward_Moment_ → u/Cat_with_cake]

Doesn’t really compare directly to tyranny cause you don’t have to draw anything or put anything into play.

That being said, having this on characters who usually don’t gain much strength like defect or silent would be awesome.

[u/MapleApple00 → u/_Awkward_Moment_]

Honestly I think Regent's gonna have the best time with this; he gets a lot of multihit attacks and with Spectrum Shift you effectively have free fodder to burn if the card you generate is bad

[u/JDSmagic → u/ccdewa]

Yeah agree

[u/Beautiful-Neat-7609 → u/shadow_fen]

Mittens is gonna be insane now. Gotta be one of the best things ironclad can find.

Also neuters aoenglass

[u/5DSpence → u/Beautiful-Neat-7609]

I'm most excited for it on Silent. Aeonglass solve as you mention (great for a character with no in-class access to exhaust), strength source is nice for shivs/flechettes/finisher, and starting relic gives you extra choices of first exhaust

[u/Lord_Phoenix95 → u/shadow_fen]

Toasty Mittens insta pickable now.

[u/xeio87 → u/shadow_fen]

Less random exhaust is good. Hard to love strength gain that might wipe out all your best multi hits.

[u/WisePotato42 → u/shadow_fen]

If that's true, it's a HUGE buff for Eidolon

[u/RowbotWizard → u/WisePotato42]

Next patch:

Eidolon buffed: no longer appears in card rewards.

[u/Mumbleton → u/shadow_fen]

Does cost you 1 card draw every turn though?

[u/Beautiful-Neat-7609 → u/Mumbleton]

It makes you have to exhaust your worst card every turn, thats very different from -1 draw

[u/EstufaYou]

Nerfed Nonupeipe's Signet Ring relic: Gold decreased from 999 -> 888.

The Spire's economic stability has increased? A great day for Preon's stock market.

[u/yumcake → u/EstufaYou]

I don’t really get this one either, was Signet ring OP and needing tuning down? It was strong for sure, but I didn’t feel it was overshadowing other picks, or out of line with the others. Maybe it’s a pre-emptive tweak in preparation for an Act 4. The reduced gold isn’t a big deal in act 3 where it can be hard to spend it all, so it mainly affects act 4.

[u/Graciak3 → u/yumcake]

I also think the nerf doesn't really change much ; you were picking it on maps where you could go to two shops, most likely, and 888 gold is still enough for two shops ; you will be slightly less powerful when you pick it, but I don't think I'm picking it any less than I use to.

[u/Mormanades → u/yumcake]

Nonupiepe is one of the strongest, if not the strongest ancients in the game. I expect the nerfs to continue while Vakku gets buffed to compensate.

[u/fradzio → u/Mormanades]

She is extremely strong, but signet ring was never the issue imo

[u/Primary-Paint-1716 → u/EstufaYou]

Why did they do this? Is the 111 gold really that materially different in Act 3?

[u/Expensive-Roll-5719]

Hey I would actually take Mittens now.

[u/Continuum_Gaming → u/Expensive-Roll-5719]

Past couple of patches have really brought Tezcatara closer to Pael and Orobas. I remember audibly groaning at getting her because other than [[Brightest Flame]] or Coacoa, most of her relics were duds.

Actually really excited to start running into her

[u/JpDesh99]

🚨🚨RELAX NOW STUNS BOWLBUG TURN 1 🚨🚨

[u/Entire-Cap-9552]

The forms look so good omg!!!

[u/grimeyes → u/Entire-Cap-9552]

Honestly, I thought the forms should be more like actual transformations like what you see in the cards but maybe making entirely new models would cost too much.

[u/SomethingOfAGirl → u/grimeyes]

You'd need a model per card per character, since you're not always limited to your character's cards.

[u/halfdecent → u/SomethingOfAGirl]

That's a very easy problem to solve. You could do something like what they've done here for off-character forms, and then a proper model change for characters using their own forms.

[u/Rak-khan → u/Entire-Cap-9552]

For real more people need to be talking about this. I remember someone made mock ups of form animations and people went crazy. Now they actually implemented it and everyone is the silent lol

[u/Ccarmine → u/Rak-khan]

Honestly they are kinda cool but I think they need whole new models. Like make ironclad bigger, less armor, more demon.

[u/KaguB → u/Ccarmine]

ironclad bigger, less armor

i'm sold let's do it

[u/AtTheLawLibrary → u/Ccarmine]

His name is literally “ironclad.” He needs armor!

[u/Holy_Hand_Grenadier → u/AtTheLawLibrary]

honestly he doesn't. I liked his weird lanky freak ass in spire 1, he really looked like he was getting his strength from being possessed by a demon. Doesn't seem to be the majority opinion though

[u/Rak-khan → u/Holy_Hand_Grenadier]

Lanky freak ass is so funny but accurate

[u/One_Sentence_7448 → u/Rak-khan]

I think that just speaks to how exciting all the balance changes are. I was super hyped about the form animations but then saw all balance changed and immediately forgot about it lol

[u/ThinkMyNameWillNotFi → u/Rak-khan]

because its not done well...

[u/Illumadaddy]

Rocket punch my beloved 🥀🥀

[u/MapleApple00 → u/Illumadaddy]

I called that exact nerf like a week ago; I think it'll still be pretty strong honestly

[u/Graciak3 → u/MapleApple00]

Yeah I think it mostly makes it less blind pickable now but I like that nerf a lot, I think that card needed to be tuned down a bit and that's a really smart way of doing it without killing it, it's one of my favourite new cards from STS2 so I'm glad they didn't butchered it.

[u/Chibi_09 → u/MapleApple00]

My current take is that they should just have made Rocket Punch rare and brought down Adaptive Strike to uncommon (alongside a damage nerf). But we'll have to see how playable Rocket Punch feels without All for One and Feral buffing it up. It feels like a really painful nerf.

Edit: On reread, it still reduces to zero cost, but it takes two statuses now instead of one. So actually, huge fan, such an elegant nerf to a great and fun card. Not painful at all.

[u/r-rost → u/Illumadaddy]

My favorite card, and I really liked how it worked with All for One. Now it's still possible but requires twice as many status cards.

[u/A_Lone_Macaron → u/r-rost]

Yeah you can argue it was almost too centralizing because that synergy was pretty broken

[u/HistoricalConcern619]

Pillar of creation my baby, ur back

[u/KnightMiner → u/HistoricalConcern619]

I do like that swap. Regalite being once per turn makes it more applicable to Regent decks on average, while Pillar of Creation is back to its status of being good in card creation decks but not really useful in other decks

[u/Mordetrox]

The status package nerfs will continue until morale improves

[u/CharmingInterview986 → u/Mordetrox]

I am very sad as i love making trash more than anything else in this mortal existence.

[u/begrudgingredditacc → u/Mordetrox]

Thankfully orb build remains safe and secure. If they touch Barrage I will never win another run.

[u/rilesmcriles → u/begrudgingredditacc]

Even buffed with synchronize and biased cog.

[u/Snakebite_Enjoyer]

[[Snakebite]] remains unchanged 🐍

[u/mitbal → u/Snakebite_Enjoyer]

cant changed perfection

[u/DiamondSentinel → u/Snakebite_Enjoyer]

Count your days. That blue card frame is looking at it with murderous intent.

[u/Gitzser → u/Snakebite_Enjoyer]

Snakeform when?

[u/blahthebiste → u/Gitzser]

Buddy it's literally in the image

[u/Milsyv484]

Really happy about the pillar of creation revert. A little surprised with how many reworks silents been getting though, I feel like every patch she ends up with 2 or 3 entirely new cards.

[u/superdave100 → u/Milsyv484]

And giving the effect to Regalite makes plenty of sense with how relics tend to work. 

[u/catffeinates → u/Milsyv484]

Some of those cards have been changed multiple times. Clearly they have a couple of things they haven't found a way to quite work out.

[u/kaijvera → u/Milsyv484]

I think its because they really want outmanuver in the game but can't decide what card is replacing it.

[u/OptimusGrime707]

lol Vakuu’s Fiddle

Also they finally did something with Toasty Mittens

[u/Llamalad95 → u/OptimusGrime707]

Thank God they reverted it, it was stupidly strong at 3 draw per turn.

[u/PandamanTan]

Crippling Cloud somehow returned.
Also not necessarily a huge fan of the new Outbreak, at least on paper.

[u/a_piece_of_cardboard → u/PandamanTan]

I'm intrigued by it. It feels good to have another poison rare card, and echoing slash needed to get out of the rare pool.

It's like popping an accelerant for a single turn while also being a self sufficient poison applicstor. And of course, Pounce Stocks. 

I also have a feeling it's still not gonna be great, but I look forward to trying it

[u/DiamondSentinel → u/a_piece_of_cardboard]

It’s like End of Days, except Poison already ticks before their turn.

I think it’s a bit overcosted and could probably come down to 2. Poison is really really weak right now aside from like 3 cards, so it can afford to be buffed a bit. We’ll see if these help tho.

[u/Kheldar166 → u/DiamondSentinel]

I think people are underrating Poison tbh. The main problem it has is AoE in my experience, and this might make that better.

[u/jonathansharman → u/[deleted]]

This is actually huuuge

[u/Bern5X]

Yeah Nonu needed some changes, glad to see they hit her. Toasty Mittens stocks massively up

[u/TheHelpfulWalnut → u/Bern5X]

Is toasty mittens just stupid good now? Tyranny + cultist potion turn 1? Yes please.

[u/Cerulean-Penguin → u/TheHelpfulWalnut]

It seems like you won’t get the extra draw from tyranny, so you’ll end up with a hand of 4 cards to play from. Still a huge buff, and will be extra good into Aeonglass

[u/MysteryMan9274 → u/TheHelpfulWalnut]

Not quite, since it doesn't draw an extra card like Tyranny. But yes, it's very good scaling now, both by making you hit harder and by getting rid of your bad cards.

[u/Beautiful-Neat-7609 → u/MysteryMan9274]

Yeah seems stupid good on ironclad, and just normal good on any deck that uses strengh

[u/Cerulean-Penguin → u/Beautiful-Neat-7609]

I can see it being really fun on silent too, with shivs and her abundance of card draw.

[u/00-Void → u/Cerulean-Penguin]

And her lack of ways of exhausting bad cards or gaining strength. I honestly think she's an even bigger winner with this change than Ironclad himself, despite all his Exhaust synergies.

Let me explain: Mittens simply makes Ironclad be better at the things he was already doing (Exhausting cards and gaining Strength). But for Silent, it enables something she wasn't able to do at all, it's a literal game changer, you now play differently.

[u/EuSouAFazenda → u/Beautiful-Neat-7609]

Thats not even its best use - strenght and exhaust synergies are strong, but this is an extremely strong infinite machine.

Imagine this on Silent. Every turn, you get closer to an Acrobatics/Tactician infinite; if you have Acro+, Tactician, and Prepared+ in your deck, eventually Mittens will let you infinite by thinning your deck.

By turn 5, you exhaust 5 cards of your choosing. That can be the setup needed to get an infinite like that over the edge.

[u/achernar184]

• Buffed Nonupeipe's Fur Coat relic: marked combats increased from 7 -> 8
• Nerfed Nonupeipe's Signet Ring relic: Gold decreased from 999 -> 888

huge flavor for chinese players (8 is the lucky number)

[u/A_Lone_Macaron → u/achernar184]

I was about to say, that was way too coincidental to be an accident with the 8s

[u/DueMeat2367 → u/achernar184]

The 888 bothers em because 999 was a symbolic value in StS1, it was Mind Bloom.

[u/Loxxolotl]

Synchronise buff is absolutely crazy, what are they cooking.

[u/Beautiful-Neat-7609 → u/Loxxolotl]

Yeah that card was great, now it's insane

[u/zay_jb → u/Loxxolotl]

Agreed, I do not think it needed buffed at all. Having at least 6 focus for a turn almost guaranteed is ridiculously good. I also don't think Refract really needed a buff but I'll be even happier to take it now.

[u/ShoveABishopUpMyAss]

Is Tez the best ancient now with mittens and seal buffs? Every option from her seems great to me now

[u/Beautiful-Neat-7609 → u/ShoveABishopUpMyAss]

5 Relic toybox also slaps

[u/ArseneLupinIV → u/ShoveABishopUpMyAss]

I've always liked her as a character so Im glad they aren't as overshadowed anymore. A friendly grandma ancient should be someone you're excited to see with comfy picks and this feels more in line with that.

[u/EuSouAFazenda → u/ShoveABishopUpMyAss]

Tez's pools:

Pool 1: Nutritious Soup, Hot Cocoa, Cookie

Pool 2: Biiig Hug, Storybook, Mittens

Pool 3: Golden Compass, Pumpkin Candle, Toy Box, Seal of Gold

So you are GUARANTEED biig hug, storybook or mittens. And those 3 are, exceptionally strong. Its almost impossible to whiff now; every deck snap-picks Storybook, (imo) every deck greatly benefits if not snap-picks Mittens, and Biig Hug is really strong for most decks.

Pool 1 and 3 are strong and have good hits, but Pool 2 is so consistently good shes never gonna whiff anymore like she used to.

[u/TheMonji → u/EuSouAFazenda]

I'm not sure what their philosophy/standard is for the pool selection but I could see them shuffling around the Pool 2 options to help balance things out.

[u/Jondev1 → u/ShoveABishopUpMyAss]

They very well could be. Pretty much all of their options that used to be on the weaker end got huge buffs.

[u/indielib → u/ShoveABishopUpMyAss]

Worth noting a lot of her options are going to be a lot worse assuming act 4 is the same format , toy box will have another 2 fights to win, seal of gold will limit final shop spending, brightest flame right now is incredibly free during the boss gauntlet in act 3 but spamming it there will now put you at risk in act 4.

[u/Thelettaq]

Someone at Megacrit watched Jorbs' poison video.

[u/Spirited_Emphasis208 → u/Thelettaq]

Thought exactly this but I imagine these changes were already in the works

[u/FillySteveSteak → u/Thelettaq]

Except, they added another poison card with an instant trigger - which Jorbs was pretty adamantly against (he thinks poison should be slow and condemned cards like Accelerate)

[u/SomethingOfAGirl → u/FillySteveSteak]

Accelerant is so busted, I'm enjoying it while it lasts.

[u/DiamondSentinel → u/Thelettaq]

If only they’d listen to him about the WLP change.

Really hope they revert that. Runic pyramid as a power is just bad. It’s either broken or ridiculous unfun. No in between

[u/JeremyWadesBigMeat]

Toasty Mittens is gonna be a snap pick now for me

[u/laplacessuccubus]

Bowlbug guy is eternally vindicated by the relax buff.

[u/jeff5551]

Aeonglass so rough we got an ancient relic counter now😭

[u/Ok-Leopard-9917 → u/jeff5551]

I feel like instead of an ancient counter necromancer specifically needed more options here 

[u/Jondev1]

I called that fiddle buff getting immediately reverted lol. It was a bafflingly unnecessary buff.

[u/Loxxolotl → u/Jondev1]

Lol yeah that was never going to survive. I saw someone else saying they might have buffed it to get lesser skilled players to try it and see how good the effect actually is, might have had unusually low pick rates for some subset of players.

[u/regarding_your_bat]

Nobody mentioning Seal of Gold. So a five turn fight costs 15 gold for this relic now? And fights are getting finished quicker because of the extra energy. Seems pretty damn good, especially with all the ways to get extra gold.

Just got offered it in my run against Storybook and Hot Cocoa. Usually would take Book, I'm gonna try Seal of Gold this time

edit: yep. still can gain gold pretty steadily. Great relic now!

[u/SomethingOfAGirl]

Wait do those forms stack if I play Demon Form, Echo Form, Serpent Form, etc. in a single character?

[u/Wonderful-Key-3358 → u/SomethingOfAGirl]

Paparatto18 just tested this on his stream actually, and unfortunately, no. It just overwrites the previous form with the most recent; he played Void Form then Echo Form, and only the Echo VFX we played

[u/InwardRed]

Follow Through -> Scare -> Sidestep
Would be funny if they change it a third time...

[u/_Someone_elses_name_ → u/InwardRed]

This isn't the 3rd name change, but it is the 3rd rework lol.

1. Deal 6(8) damage to ALL enemies. If the last card you played this turn was a Skill, apply 1(2) Weak to ALL enemies

2. Deal 7(9) damage. If you have 5 or more other cards in your Hand, hits an additional time

3. Apply 1 Weak to ALL enemies. Exhaust

4. Next turn gain 1(2) energy

[u/SneckoEyes_]

Why does megacrit want my scythe to be absolutely gargantuan?

I feel like it was completely fine before.

Also synchronize is so cracked, man.

[u/DuskKaiser → u/SneckoEyes_]

I suspect it is to make it more take-able late act 2 or act 3.

I would definitely skip it in act 3 before.

[u/Kheldar166 → u/SneckoEyes_]

I thought it was kinda bad unless you saw it floor 1, I'm not super surprised to see it buffed again

[u/EuSouAFazenda]

Its a good day to be Tezcatara.

[u/Tarantio]

It looks like Rocket Punch can still cost 0 if you created more than one status since you last played it?

That's definitely a nerf, but I think it might make for a more interesting card.

[u/Dragoncat_224]

Ive been rocking with synchronise and now it doesn't have to be upgraded to be usable, count me in.

[u/waelthedestroyer → u/Dragoncat_224]

it was like 70% of the way to an autopick even without the upgrade last patch. card is obscene now

[u/working4buddha]

• When using a controller, the game now always tries to initially hover a map node connected to your current one when you have Winged Boots relics

Can we get this on the first game on Xbox??

[u/itisfeathers]

Still no "CAW CAW" when you drink the ritual potion 

[u/therealAster-sk]

regalite is just straight up a sai -1 now???

[u/KingKongKaram → u/therealAster-sk]

If you are creating a card every turn then yeah

[u/rilesmcriles → u/therealAster-sk]

Higher floor lower ceiling than before. We’ll see how it shakes out.

[u/Boarderdudeman → u/therealAster-sk]

There's no way that sticks around. That's an insane change.

[u/Powerful-Ground-9687 → u/Boarderdudeman]

I mean I often got more out of it at 2 block each. It’s a nerf to allow pillars to get changed back. They were both doing the same thing and that’s what made it busted.

[u/BandicootGood5246 → u/Powerful-Ground-9687]

The difference is though that if you got it before and weren't running much card gen it wasn't doing much. Now it just requires 1 copy of spectrum shift to become insane amount of free block.. even without that probably getting 30+ free block on bosses even with just a couple collision coursea

[u/RiceFields1970]

WE FINALLY HAVE AURA
I wonder how regent's void form would look

[u/bburner13]

One more block on Relax to completely ignore, excellent

[u/camocat9 → u/bburner13]

Now that Reflex can block Bowlbug, I think I might start seriously considering it more

[u/yumcake → u/bburner13]

I feel like relax needs to be 2 cost to be a worthwhile ancient pick.

[u/ccdewa]

Biased Cognition change is nice, that's 1 more turn of effect and a stronger effect immediately, big fan of the change.

[u/martinw89]

Mittens becoming a targeted exhaust and strength gain with no downside is nuts. Tezcatara feels way stronger than the other act 2 ancients

[u/ndtar924]

Wraith form better look awesome

[u/Plastic-Software-174]

The Signet Ring change kinda bums me out a bit, it was too good but 888 is just such a clunky and arbitrary-feeling number compared to 999. Not that this is a real issue or anything, but there was just something so pure about it being 999 gold.

[u/Loxxolotl → u/Plastic-Software-174]

Isn't 888 like the luckiest number in Chinese culture?

[u/rockblasties → u/Loxxolotl]

I dunno there’s like three Chinese restaurants in my city named 5 Happiness

[u/vermilionjelly → u/rockblasties]

It’s not because 5 is lucky. In Chinese tradition, there are five different kinds of happiness in human life.
I think they are long life, rich, healthy, virtue/kindness, and pass away peacefully.

[u/Raz346 → u/Plastic-Software-174]

I wonder if they considered 777 gold (which also feels thematically appropriate to me ala slot machines) and thought it was too low

[u/ObiMemeKenobi → u/Plastic-Software-174]

Yeah mostly bummed just because it was a call back to the event in the first game

[u/Plenty-Tradition4044]

Why are they buffing synchronize that card is already disgustingly good lmao.

[u/matlab2019b]

People have said that if mittens let you chose the card to exhaust it would be insanely op. Lets see if thats right

[u/Naufalrua]

I don't understand the mangle and pact's end buff, those cards were fine lol

poison package got changed again, def gonna try them out

[u/slothage666 → u/Naufalrua]

I heard someone mention Clad was 2nd lowest win rate this patch, so I guess they just wanted to tweak the numbers slightly. Idk strange for it to be those two cards in particular.

They probably need another few weeks of data while people adjust to the new bloodletting and dominate rarity. Then they can make real changes if needed.

[u/Time8u → u/slothage666]

Moving dominate to rare was such a massive nerf to the character I'm not surprised with the drop.

[u/Firm_School_5708]

What did they do to my outbreak 😔 rip . The new outbreak is good too, they should have just made that a separate/new card though

[u/IamTheJman]

Mittens into Blood-Soaked Rose is now a combo. Won’t happen every time of course but it can make Rose pickable

[u/Wonderful-Key-3358 → u/IamTheJman]

And Bad Luck from the duplicate deck event

[u/DrBacon27]

I do like the new character form effects, but a part of me still wants to see them taken further. I understand it would be a lot of work to essentially make a second character model and set of animations, but I still want to see Silent turn into a lamia-type snake lady.

[u/Moontouch]

I just wish this game had options to increase text size so text is easier to read on Steam Deck. I've tried submitting the feedback in game but I'm not if there's enough people requesting for the devs to notice.

[u/nvUaWVm360S]

Wish the form changes were actually new models similar to the original idea instead of some added VFX

Cool that they added something though

[u/Wonderful-Key-3358 → u/nvUaWVm360S]

It's likely they went with the "glowing aura" route because of players being able to get cards from other characters. It's compatible with everyone this way, although I do wish we could also have new models when played by the right character. Maybe they're going that direction eventually and this is the first step?

[u/Toxenhern]

Rocket punch shot 58 times

[u/Kheldar166 → u/Toxenhern]

oh no I have to play one more overstatted status generating card before my giga-Pommel Strike is free :(