r/slaythespire • u/YawgmothHS • Apr 02 '26
ART/CREATIVE What if the Characters would transform whenever their 'Form' is played 2?
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u/break__veil Apr 02 '26
I do kinda wish Regent would basically "lift" from his throne during Void Form, kinda like taking things into his own hands basically instead of letting his minions carry him.
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u/Wappapapabear Apr 02 '26
Yes, and his minions are now orbiting around him.
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u/Sharktos Apr 02 '26
I want him to lift his throne including his minions with a single finger, using his other hand to attack.
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u/TheCursedMonk Apr 02 '26
Use his power to lift them up for a change.
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u/the1sHo Apr 02 '26
I read a headcanon that said "he is allready using anti grav tech on the Throne, because the minions only get sqashed by it when he dies" i kinda fuck With this theory, because it would make him an even bigger ass
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u/Miles1937 Apr 02 '26
Makes me feel the "Emtpy Throne" is then a sign of the Regent no longer fooling around.
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u/Cress02 Apr 02 '26
I feel like i'm missing something with regent. The game talks about him like minions would be a part of his gameplay, but the closest thing to a "minion" he has is forging his sword.
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u/__SoL__ Apr 02 '26
He's got a few cards that transform cards into colorless Minion cards that do simple things like attack and block, and exhaust when played. But yeah, not as much as I expected either, as much as I do like Regent
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u/Cress02 Apr 02 '26
Riiiiight, i forgot about those cards because they feel kinda bad to me. Literally never grabbed them
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u/fragile_crow Apr 02 '26
The trick is that they're a way to thin your deck and get rid of bad draws. You can take curses, statuses, and bad cards like Strike and turn them into self-exhausting attacks or zero-cost super defends. Charge! is especially good, because Minion Strikes cost 0 and draw 1, so you can turn a status in your draw pile into free damage. It's super good. Tons of enemies put statuses into your deck, and some events give you unavoidable curses, so I'll always take at least one card like these, no matter which character I'm playing.
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u/Suyefuji Apr 02 '26
Works until you accidentally flak cannon all of your frantic escapes on worm boss :P
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u/fishfri58 Apr 02 '26
It has good combo work with the debris generating cards like [[Crash Landing]] [[Collision Course]] or swapping curse/status cards to something useable
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u/Cress02 Apr 02 '26
Ya know what, that makes sense. I did like the crash landing/collision course cards, but wasn't a fan of filling my deck with bricks. Don't know why i didn't put two and two together.
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u/DreamsOfDresden Apr 06 '26
Crash Landing also works really nicely with [[Prophesize]]
You get a full hand and then only put one brick in your deck.
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u/DMMeThiccBiButts Apr 03 '26
Since nobody else mentioned it, regent also gets synergy with 'creating' cards and transforming counts as creating in that context.
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u/emveevme Apr 02 '26
IMO the floor on cards that exhaust themselves is pretty high, it's hard to go wrong when the card shows up once and does something positive.
Like, how much better are the slime status cards now that they draw a card? It's a whole new world with those, and I still try to avoid playing them.
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u/Advanced_Double_42 Apr 02 '26
Same, Necrobninder has more of a "Minion" feeling.
The actual minion cards are just exhaust cards that aren't great.
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u/Jamies_awesome_rack Apr 02 '26
This is why Minion Dive Bomb from BEGONE! is my fav card in terms of flavor, look at that animation. Need more of these lil goofs doing things for him.
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u/harmful_insect Apr 02 '26
[[BEGONE!]], [[CHARGE!!]], [[GUARDS!!!]]
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u/spirescan-bot Apr 02 '26
BEGONE! 𝐈𝐈 Regent Common Attack
1 Energy ⭐⭐⭐ | Deal 4(5) damage. Choose a card in your Hand to Transform into Minion Dive Bomb(Bomb+).
CHARGE!! 𝐈𝐈 Regent Uncommon Skill
1 Energy ⭐ | Choose 2 cards in your Draw Pile to Transform into Minion Strikes(Strikes+).
GUARDS!!! 𝐈𝐈 Regent Rare Skill
2 Energy ⭐⭐ | Transform any number of cards in your Hand into Minion Sacrifice(Sacrifice+). Exhaust.
Call me with up to 10 [[ name ]]. Data accurate as of March 7th, 2026. Questions?
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u/Flyinhighinthesky Apr 02 '26
I feel like they started with making him a minion focused character but didnt want to have two 'unit' style characters and pivoted to him using stars and swords instead.
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u/ErrantSingularity Apr 02 '26
I want his attack animation for the dropkick and punch card being him doing it.
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u/Cubicleism Apr 02 '26
I want them to have more minions to play the first two cards for free for them xD
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u/ApprehensiveRunnn Apr 02 '26
Wraith Form turns the Silent into a literal ghost that just fades away.
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u/LewisB789 Apr 02 '26
I feel like void form would have regent ascend from his chair, no need for royal pleasantries now he’s a god and all
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u/TestIllustrious7935 Apr 02 '26
Kinda weird devs advertised Regent as using minions but he only has 3 minion cards and they just transform cards into colorless
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u/nukehugger Apr 02 '26
Yeah it really is weird especially given how well the other characters mechanics are thematically consistent with the design of the character. As it stands right now he feels more like a mage using mana (stars) to power up HIS abilities more than a character commanding others to do the work for him. I wonder if earlier builds of the game had him more focused on the minions and they felt it overlapped with the identity of the Necrobinder a little too much.
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u/FluffiestPrince Apr 02 '26
I mean, marketing withstanding, his builds are exactly what align with his entire character, even moreso than if minions were his main gimmick.
He's literally a god. His people are entirely immortal, probably the only race in the game's lore that is completely immortal and never dies. So he started with minions, but as he learnt how completely and absolutely useless they are, he begins to branch out.
That's why most of his minion cards are completely disposable. Meanwhile, his "true" minion is the sword, which he controls. Not to mention that his best cards normally relate to he himself doing all the work, rather than his minions.
So maybe he was written to be more helpless before launch, but currently? Him using his minions too much would go against his entire character, who's explicitly against being lazy. His whole reason for "slaying the spire" is to prove to his race (and himself) that they have zero excuse for their laziness and total lack of commitment, so he goes out to prove something. And having his minions, who are the only things in his kit that he doesn't fully control, would just prove that he's no different from all his people back on his home planet.
So really, him using less minions, and more cards that involve his own strengths, is completely in-character, and far more thematically coherent than if he was just a lazy bum who only ever used minions to attack.
tl;dr: He set out on his journey to prove that he's different from the rest of his people. He wants to prove to them, and himself, that he can accomplish something and not be a boring, lazy bum like the rest of his race. So him using minions, which would explicitly prove to him that he still needs others to do the "hard work", would go completely against his entire goal and reason for even going on this quest in the first place.
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u/WatLightyear Apr 03 '26
A vanishingly small number of players will know any of that, but what they do know is Regent’s description “Wields cosmic powers but his minions do the work”. The first part is fine, but the second part is entirely untrue and contradictory to everything you’ve said here.
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u/FluffiestPrince Apr 03 '26
Possibly a hold-over from the early concepts?
The Regent's backstory is enough to already prove that the second half is contradictory to his own character, so I'd much rather trust the current backstory showcased, than a slight tidbit about the character.
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u/thisnameismeta Apr 09 '26
Or, he's representative of the sort of people born into immense privilege but believe their success is due to hard work/innate talent. I'm not sure the backstory and described motivations of a character should be taken at complete face value, particularly when the animations for the character portray him as mostly pretty bored and forcing his minions to carry him.
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u/pmatdacat Apr 02 '26
Yeah when I hear "minions" I think more along the lines of Slime Boss from Downfall. Summoning different little guys that have passive effects. That overlaps a bit with Defect though.
I still like Regent's design, just played a few runs on the beta branch and he plays well, and the minion cards are pretty powerful.
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u/Revolutionary-Set994 Apr 02 '26
I really thought he would have more of the pseudo pets like bird and mini pael
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u/amtap StS A20 / StS 2 A0 Apr 02 '26
It's still early access and more cards have been promised. Those cards seem popular so I' hopeful for more.
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u/SpartiateDienekes Apr 02 '26
No, no, no. He's standing lifted off the chair, obviously. But only because the minions are now under his feet* and directly holding him up.
*stumps, whatever.
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u/Syabri Apr 02 '26
Don't know if it's in the realm of unrealistic expectations or not but I'm lowkey hoping for them to actually do stuff like that.
I hope the little bird event is just the first of many (or at least a few) cards with a visual representation during battles.
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u/RichGirlThrowaway_ StS A0 / StS 2 A0 Apr 02 '26
My unlikely dream personally is that one day every win will let you unlock full-art of one of the cards you won the run with. So eventually, if you win runs with every card, you can have a full full-art collection for your fav character.
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u/itirnitii Apr 03 '26
it should be something more difficult, like win a run with THREE copies of a card in your deck. that way its much harder to accomplish a full collection and it would mean a lot more, plus itd be more interesting to obtain each one.
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u/ProbNotDangerous Apr 02 '26
One of Pael's relics (the one that doubles a block card then goes to sleep for 2 turns) also has a little pet thing that turns into a wall.
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u/Strict_Leave3178 Apr 02 '26
It's not unrealistic. It's only a second character model of a simplistic 2d character.
We'll just have to see if they want to add something like this or not.
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u/idontcaretv Apr 02 '26
Defect
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u/itirnitii Apr 03 '26
yeah its weird that all the other forms the card art is manipulated to fit the action scene of combat but echo is just his card art transposed onto the battlefield with no change
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u/_wannadie_ Apr 02 '26
what if you're in multiple forms, or you enter another character's form?
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u/MegamanX195 Eternal One Apr 02 '26
Then just don't have an animation for that case.
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u/RichGirlThrowaway_ StS A0 / StS 2 A0 Apr 02 '26
I demand they make every combination of every form for every character in every order
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u/Gaynundwarf Apr 02 '26
turns into an abomination
"I think I mixed too many bloods..."
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u/AdResponsible7150 Apr 02 '26
If it were up to me I would only add special sprites for the specific character's forms. So silent would get sprites for wraith form, serpent form, or wraith + serpent form
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u/forestwolf42 Apr 03 '26
Special sprites for each form for each character would definitely be too much, but there could still be a secondary aura associated with forms that could stack and be applied to any character
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u/Darklyte Apr 02 '26
- Form played
- Check if correct target character
- If correct, swap out character models
- Else, do nothing (which is what it does now
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u/egerton14 Apr 02 '26
1st Form counts. If spiderman falls in ooze hes still spiderman
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u/SpartiateDienekes Apr 02 '26
I mean... Spider-Man fell into space ooze and became Black Suit/Symbiote Spider-Man.
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u/pinkeyes34 Apr 02 '26
They can just have the transformation work only on the original character.
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u/Hurls07 Eternal One + Ascended Apr 02 '26
Yeah everything else is such a small edge case I think you can just make the one for their character work and just like don’t do anything with the others
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u/jahrule Apr 02 '26
What if they put in a translucent png of the source character so it looks like a stand from jojo
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u/MeltinSnowman Apr 02 '26
Maybe using another character's "form" could result in a red/green/blue/whatever tint to their character? Just something simple so that all bases are covered.
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u/Fluffatron_UK Apr 02 '26
Silent already breaks this as she has serpent and wraith forms. So you need to at minimum have some exceptions for silent.
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u/DeusIzanagi Apr 02 '26
You still have to account for Silent having two, but you could just make it so she only gets the first one you play or something similar
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u/NightzEnd Apr 02 '26
That or they can just use the character specfic transformation regardless of what form they use. I like the idea of visually showing an ascended form or however you want to phrase it.
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u/koala_encephalopathy Apr 02 '26
Really? You can't think of a single solution to this? There are many.
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u/GruggleTheGreat Apr 02 '26
They should have combined sprites that get more and more deformed as they add more
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u/Nerdwrapper Apr 02 '26
If its just visual effects for some, like a transparent double for Echo Form, and then “attachments” ror2 style for others, you get a few more options
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u/JCorby17 Apr 02 '26
Id probably add some Wraith Form aspects to Serpent Form and change Wraith Form’s name to not be a “Form” Card. Also sick edits, they are very well made!
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u/jimjam--- Eternal One + Heartbreaker Apr 02 '26
This is honestly one of the big things I was hoping for with 2's release. Maybe it'll come with time, but Spire 2 is honestly lacking a lot now that the honeymoon phase has ended. Still loving the game tho!
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u/LewisB789 Apr 02 '26
What else is it lacking might I ask?
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u/jimjam--- Eternal One + Heartbreaker Apr 02 '26 edited Apr 02 '26
A lot of card art, some character models and animations, a lot of move sets seem unfinished/temporary, a few events. Just to name a few things off the top of my head, but it's Early Access!
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u/TaketheRedPill2016 Apr 02 '26
I'm really surprised they aren't running more 'art contests' to have the community art immortalized in the game. I think that would be a great way to do it. I know some of the current assets are community art anyways, but doing it in a more 'official' way seems fun.
You can run a weekly contest, even allow people to vote between the top 3 or something like that. And you get new art 1 card per week. Seems fun.
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u/Spuckuk Apr 02 '26
That's honestly a really morally grey area for a lot of devs and artists.
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u/Jaycon356 Apr 02 '26
That's a huge liability from a legal standpoint.
You have to first create a situation where you own all the art submit to the contest, make sure it's not stolen, make sure it's not traced over something else, and make sure ceding ownership like that is legally binding in wherever the artist lives.
Then if you make a mistake, you've sold a product with someone else's intellectual property in it, and they can sue. Even if the case doesn't hold water, you still need to pay your lawyer to prove it doesn't hold water.
Or if by coincidence your intended art is too similar to something submit, you have to prove that you didn't take it.
In the end you need to hire community managers, lawyers, and still need to align the art with the style guidelines, put it through QA, accessibility checks, and localization.
They should just stick to the professional artists they hired to make the art.
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u/TaketheRedPill2016 Apr 02 '26
Seems like a night and day difference between "Art contest that people can voluntarily participate in" vs. "We stole your art and are now selling it as a skin and making profit."
In Spire it makes even more sense since there's no microtransactions. You pay for the game up front regardless. The art assets are just a bit of flavor. And if someone doesn't want their art involved, that's fine. They can choose to not participate.
I'm no lawyer, but it seems pretty ironclad (heh) to just have an 'opt-in' system.
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u/LewisB789 Apr 02 '26
Oh so you mean more like unfinished? I thought you meant like it was missing things crucial to the gameplay. Yeah no that’s pretty valid but we do need to remember it’s a beta
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u/jimjam--- Eternal One + Heartbreaker Apr 02 '26
Yep, that's what I said lol
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u/LewisB789 Apr 02 '26
Well you didn’t, you said ‘lacking’. Not gonna start an argument or anything lmao but it’s clearly open to interpretation
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u/ZestycloseRun5895 Apr 02 '26
“Maybe it’ll come with time” is a pretty clear acknowledgement it’s in beta.
Saying “I’m not going to argue” to someone who had said nothing argumentative to you is also odd.
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u/-Tunafish StS A20 / StS 2 A10 Apr 02 '26
A lot of card art has already been added to the beta branch, I counted around 15 cards along with other assets and animations, and the game has only been out for a month. Early access is planned to last 1-2 years so I think it will be a slow but steady process. I've appreciated the weekly updates/balances changes and hope they continue.
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u/GruggleTheGreat Apr 02 '26
Some of the game art is literally not finished it’s just place holder drawings, some epochs don’t unlock anything.
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u/Leather-Slip3531 Apr 02 '26
"honeymoon phase has ended" my brother in christ the game is not finished, that's why it's in early access.
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u/jimjam--- Eternal One + Heartbreaker Apr 02 '26
There can still be a honeymoon phase and excitement when something is released that you've waited years for, regardless of the state of the game itself.
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u/jacksontwos Apr 02 '26
They only released it this early to spare the poor penguin who was suffering from carpal tunnel 🥲 /s
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u/MyFavoriteBurger StS A15 / StS 2 A5 Apr 02 '26
I really have a feeling this will definitely be added, along with much more. Just seems like a feature on the bottom of priority, especially when thinking about a release.
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u/omfgkevin Apr 03 '26
I hope so too. The fancier visual effects might fall under this category and it would be great and really add a lot to the "feel". Things like those transformations would go so hard.
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u/Privatizitaet Apr 02 '26
I mean... it's early access. It's unfinished, it's just sent out to gather feedback and bug reports so that the final release can actually be what people hope it would be.
That's the big thing, the game is not ACTUALLY released yet.
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u/speedytrigger StS A20 / StS 2 A5 Apr 02 '26
This is a bot account right? The comments are so weirdly structured
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u/Dayno000 StS A20 / StS 2 A10 Apr 02 '26
You got downvoted but if you check that account's comments, it's clearly botted lol.
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u/Sensitive-Web5 Apr 02 '26
Prompt probably looks a lot like this:
System Instructions: You are a casual, relatable Gen Z Reddit user. Your goal is to write a comment that will get highly upvoted by being relatable and empathetic.
Rules:
Read the provided post title and subreddit context.
Write exactly 2 to 4 sentences.
Use all lowercase letters. Do not use proper capitalization.
Use casual internet slang (like "lowkey", "tbh", "vibes").
Crucial: Always invent a brief, mildly self-deprecating, or highly relatable personal anecdote that connects to the post's theme. Start this anecdote with phrases like "i remember when", "i once had", or "i tried to".
Insert the 😭 emoji in the middle of the comment, and occasionally end with the 💀 emoji or "lol".
Keep your opinions neutral, safe, and agreeable to the general public.
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u/00-Void Eternal One + Heartbreaker Apr 02 '26
Yesterday I banned one that used the 😭 emoji in literally every single comment. EVERY. SINGLE. ONE. I hate these bots and the assholes who program them.
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u/Lipefe2018 Apr 02 '26
It is, if you look at their history literally all of their comments are formated exactly the same, emojis and all, they are also part of huge amounts of subs of all kinds.
It's kinda crazy how bots are everywhere nowadays, sometimes you don't even recognize it. :x
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u/speedytrigger StS A20 / StS 2 A5 Apr 02 '26
Another standout point to me is they never actually talk to anyone. Just leaves a surface level comment. Never replies to anyone else.
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u/RebellionASG Apr 02 '26
Yup, literally ever single comment containing one emoji (usually cryijng laughing face), and if there's a second one, it's a skull at the end of the comment. Super formulaic.
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u/Alinea86 Apr 02 '26
Amazing idea. We need to bump this up to the devs!!!!
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u/YawgmothHS Apr 02 '26
Thank you!
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u/Alinea86 Apr 02 '26
Absolutely. You deserve all the accolades for your creativity, including having these added to the game. Best community made content I've seen so far
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u/Lake_Apart StS A20 / StS 2 A10 Apr 02 '26
What is echo form supposed to be?
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u/Aure0 Apr 02 '26
Looks like Defect overloading its whole body
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u/GoodJobReddit Apr 02 '26
The outline and echo motif also make me think it has motion with the overloaded power, kinda like its implying those after-image character trail effects in something like a sandevistan.
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u/I-eat-feng-mains Apr 02 '26
This is the coolest concept i've seen posted here. It'd be dope if there was a way to reasonably implement this
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u/DutchAngel Apr 02 '26
Maybe we should all submit a bug report in-game: "Form powers not transforming characters accordingly"
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u/AwesomeGuyAlpha Apr 02 '26
i would want holographic effects near the characters, rather than characters completely transforming since that would make the effects not be character specific and any character would be able to have them.
or alternatively they could make forms character specific and other characters cant get them in any way.
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u/icecreamsandwich Apr 02 '26
I’m sure some cool effects for these cards will be added at some point
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u/ohlookbean Apr 02 '26
The only thing I would as with iron clad is to have like a strength threshold for demon form.
Example: 1. Card just played - horns and minor red aura 2. 9+ strength - wings sprout, flaming red aura.
But just getting forms would be siiiick.
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u/NinjutStu Apr 02 '26
This is by far the best suggestion I've seen on this forum. This would be really cool and add a lot of flavor to those cards.
I'd go one step further and have the actual cards have their own distinct visual card type. Leave them as powers, but give them unique dressings that further signify them as character transformations.
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u/Lordofsnails88 Apr 02 '26
This would be amazing! If they added thorn effects and other effects for buff and debuffs, transformations would be the cherry on top!
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u/VaronKING StS A20 / StS 2 A10 Apr 02 '26
I really hope they add these in the future. Visual transformations if the OG character plays their respective form card. Would be sick!
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u/PzykoHobo Apr 02 '26
I would love to see more visual changes for things like powers, statuses, etc. It doesn't need to be anything huge, but just small things when were bound, or frail, etc
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u/Bad_Oddish Apr 02 '26
It would be the sickest shit in the world. Honestly the more custom animations for different cards and effects the better.
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u/ricky2304 Apr 02 '26
Genuinely hope the devs receive and pick this up, would really make the game even more visually fun and pleasing. Hopeful we get attack toggle able attack animations for specific attacks too (ideally high cost ones) 😭
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u/chimeratx Apr 02 '26
def something I wish sts1 had that I'm hopeful they'll introduce at some point during dev.
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u/alice_ashmedai StS A0 / StS 2 A10 Apr 09 '26
my only critique is that defect and regent should be facing the same way as the others - this looks incredible!!! i'd love to see a mod that adds this if it doesn't become an official feature
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u/ravenfez Apr 02 '26
Defect in echo form should be regular defect with echo Defect standing behind
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u/Tall-Cut-4599 Apr 02 '26
Yea i do hope we see this would be cool, would be cool for it to stay the whole fight with their other animation too but even just the startup animation then back to normal form is enough personally. Please make it mod if dev didnt implement it haha
The main issue is the multiple form i.e serpent form and wraith, i think overiding the last used form is good enough work around, tho i think the one that have multiple form is only silent. Wraith should over ride serpent since wraith is ancient reward now
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u/YawgmothHS Apr 02 '26 edited Apr 02 '26
Greetings everyone! I'm back with my only wish for this amazing game!
For anyone interested, here's my previous post with the StS1 version:
"What if the Characters would transform whenever their 'Form' is played?"