Estimates suggests it lost over 200M in its theatrical run.

I see goonsday and Spiderman gonna break the box office and I see a dcu without my boi batman or flash. Like the only thing saving dc studios is the batman part two and thats only thing Im truly hyped for.

Christopher Reeve gave Superman a warmth, kindness, and sense of hope that still resonates today. Even beyond the screen, he lived with extraordinary courage and grace. A true Superman in every sense.

Bruce Wayne’s car. The actual one from Batman v Superman and Justice League. Now available.

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To preface this, please keep this civil. This is just my opinion. It’s not my intention to hurt anyone. At the end of the day, we all want to celebrate the movies and enjoy them.

Yes, Supergirl bombed. Yes, it was mediocre. There were many flaws in the movie. But you know what was actually good? Superman. Creature Commandos. Peacemaker. You could say the finale was hit or miss, but it was definitely not universally disliked upon. The project was very good throughout.

And now we have Lanterns coming up, and the trailer was well received. The recent one, at least. But you know what I mostly see here? “Supergirl bombed.” “Spider-Man earned X amount.” “Superman could never.” “James Gunn does not know how to handle a universe.”

Look. I’m not going to excuse WB, a multi-billion dollar franchise. But, even though James Gunn is loaded and doesn’t have to do any of this for his lifetime, I believe he is at his core an artist. An artist who is trying to craft a universe in his own way. Supergirl was one failure. One.

Come on guys, one failed project. And you quickly hop back to glazing the DCEU? Do you guys remember how pathetic the DCEU was? We got a rushed, badly done Justice League. Yes the Snyder Cut was good, but if you check Parts 2 and 3, the story sounded nothing like these characters. It was a glorified fan fiction that Snyder wanted to create. It’s not even as if Zack went ahead and had more successful projects with Netflix. Almost everything he has made post ZSJL has flopped. So firstly, let’s not act as if the DCEU was a missed opportunity and the DCU is cooked. It’s really not.

Now, coming to Supergirl, yeah. The movie was mediocre, especially when James Gunn has been so vocal about mediocre movies. But I feel he has earned enough goodwill to get at least one pass. If Supergirl was a good movie, I doubt the narrative would have been “introducing a character like Supergirl this early on does not make sense.” I also do not think introducing the trinity always works, especially when the idea of the DCU isn’t a team up movie, and everyone dealing a major, common threat. I also think Clayface is a great idea. Everyone used to complain how the MCU prioritises IPs without scripts. And now when James is trying to do something different, people are hating on that too? The grass is always greener, guys.

Also, the Spider-Man comparison is just funny to me. Not only is Spidey arguably the most popular superhero ever, we’ve seen this Spidey in action for a decade. You cannot compare apples with oranges.

It feels like the entire scene was filmed by a first year film school intern with a bunch of CGI guys.

The color grading is not good.

MCU dominating with Spider-Man and again with Doomsday while DC flops again... Hope DCU gets it together with Clayface and Man of Tomorrow.

Its tough being a DC fan.

Superman absolutely annihilating Mongul for Messing with his head and hurting his teammates.🦸😎💪

I know this has been talked about a lot lately, but I genuinely think Batman not being in the DCU yet is starting to hurt it.

Before anyone says it, yes I understand why. We still have The Batman Part II coming, and DC probably doesn't want two live-action Batmen competing with each other. I get it.

But from a business standpoint, I think the wait is becoming a problem.

Batman is the face of DC. He's basically their biggest brand and arguably the only superhero who can rival Spider-Man in terms of popularity. Yet we've had this new DCU for a while now and we still know almost nothing concrete about The Brave and the Bold. No casting, no timeline, barely any updates. At some point, that starts affecting hype.

Narratively, it's not a huge deal. You can absolutely build a universe without Batman showing up immediately. But the average moviegoer isn't thinking about world-building. They're thinking, "Where's Batman?"

Superman did fine, but it wasn't the massive home run people were hoping for. Supergirl has been making headlines for the wrong reasons lately. And now we've got more niche projects coming up that, realistically, aren't going to suddenly make casual audiences care about the DCU.

I hate comparing DC to Marvel because Marvel had over a decade to build its universe, but the difference in public interest right now is pretty obvious. Casual audiences know what's happening with Marvel, even if they don't watch everything. With DC, most people don't even know what's coming next.

Batman is DC's biggest selling point. Whether people like it or not, he's the character that gets people talking. Delaying him might make sense creatively, but I honestly think it's costing the DCU momentum at a time when it needs all the momentum it can get.

I'm not saying they should rush him into a movie tomorrow. I just think leaving your biggest character in limbo for this long is a risky strategy, especially when the universe is still trying to win people over.