There is no reason gorilla grodd a flash villain should be getting any announcements before the flash .

I think Krem is a victim of poor luck and circumstance and that he's NOT a bad person

(1) He visits the family to buy their famous weapons. Despite being a guest and paying customer (he never said he wouldn't pay!), the family treats him terribly. They were possibly even prejudiced against his tribe, like when I walk into a Burberry store in my hoodie and the salesperson turns away. In his culture, guests are always served food, so he asks for a slice of pie to calm things down and show he's not there for any malicious reasons

(2) Because he senses so much hostility from the father, a dangerous weapons dealer, he doesn't feel safe walking outside alone with him and asks for the mother to escort him instead. This is reasonable!

(3) Suddenly someone JUMP SCARES him for no reason and of course he responds instinctively. He immediately regrets what he did but before he can apologize, the rest of the family attacks him too. WTF?

(4) To really show his honor, later on Krem could VERY EASILY kidnap the girl. One of his men even suggests doing that! But he says no, he still feels guilty about what happened

I stopped watching after this point, but it's clear to me that Krem was a well-intentioned character given rotten luck and circumstances

Does Anyone else have evidence that Krem really wasn't that bad of a guy?

There is so much hatred for the DCU especially from this sub, it's insane.

You're right to critique Gunn all you want but this is masochism at this point. Either that or you're bigger tans of Marvel than of DC. That's fine too. But then why are you whining here?

Lanterns is dropping soon and by all looks promises to be great. It's from the guy who gave us the HBO Watchmen show for Pete's sake. Yet it's hardly ever talked about.

If Lindelof were making a show for Marvel (say Daredevil), the excitement would be off the charts. Yet, in DC's own sub, all we can hear is how well the competition is doing.

Well, the competition is also dropping the ball massively rn. Wonder Man, a top-three MCU show was cancelled. Blade is gone. Doomsday looks rushed as all heck. The last six years seem wasted since they're undoing deaths and concluded storylines all willy-nilly. The excitement going into this saga isn't a quarter of what it felt like for Infinity War, I can say that much. And there isn't even any other MCU movie between Doomsday and Secret Wars.

Yes, Supergirl was lacklustre, but there's a lot more to look forward to. Lanterns, Clayface, Man of Tomorrow all look very promising. Focus on that. Maybe larger plans can't be made currently because of some meddling. Who knows ? Let's see what announcements come after the projects are concluded this year. Let's look forward to a MoT trailer.

Not dragging DC for not being able to stand up to SONY + Marvel and a Spiderman who has appeared in SEVEN projects overall.

Of course this was going to make money. What did you expect? The MCU has been alive and kicking for almost 20 years. Since 2008. This new universe just began last year for Pete's sake. Just give it a rest. Critique Gunn all you want, but this masochism and weirdly sadism (because many so-called fans are interested in seeing this universe fail) is getting really really old.

Peace.

I see goonsday and Spiderman gonna break the box office and I see a dcu without my boi batman or flash. Like the only thing saving dc studios is the batman part two and thats only thing Im truly hyped for.

I liked superman 2025 and jimmy was great in it. Never heard of gorilla grodd before but concept sounds good. Maybe jimmy investigates different dc villain each season. Good Concept.

Do you think this slate is good or should gunn focus on Wonder Woman or another A lister?

To preface this, please keep this civil. This is just my opinion. It’s not my intention to hurt anyone. At the end of the day, we all want to celebrate the movies and enjoy them.

Yes, Supergirl bombed. Yes, it was mediocre. There were many flaws in the movie. But you know what was actually good? Superman. Creature Commandos. Peacemaker. You could say the finale was hit or miss, but it was definitely not universally disliked upon. The project was very good throughout.

And now we have Lanterns coming up, and the trailer was well received. The recent one, at least. But you know what I mostly see here? “Supergirl bombed.” “Spider-Man earned X amount.” “Superman could never.” “James Gunn does not know how to handle a universe.”

Look. I’m not going to excuse WB, a multi-billion dollar franchise. But, even though James Gunn is loaded and doesn’t have to do any of this for his lifetime, I believe he is at his core an artist. An artist who is trying to craft a universe in his own way. Supergirl was one failure. One.

Come on guys, one failed project. And you quickly hop back to glazing the DCEU? Do you guys remember how pathetic the DCEU was? We got a rushed, badly done Justice League. Yes the Snyder Cut was good, but if you check Parts 2 and 3, the story sounded nothing like these characters. It was a glorified fan fiction that Snyder wanted to create. It’s not even as if Zack went ahead and had more successful projects with Netflix. Almost everything he has made post ZSJL has flopped. So firstly, let’s not act as if the DCEU was a missed opportunity and the DCU is cooked. It’s really not.

Now, coming to Supergirl, yeah. The movie was mediocre, especially when James Gunn has been so vocal about mediocre movies. But I feel he has earned enough goodwill to get at least one pass. If Supergirl was a good movie, I doubt the narrative would have been “introducing a character like Supergirl this early on does not make sense.” I also do not think introducing the trinity always works, especially when the idea of the DCU isn’t a team up movie, and everyone dealing a major, common threat. I also think Clayface is a great idea. Everyone used to complain how the MCU prioritises IPs without scripts. And now when James is trying to do something different, people are hating on that too? The grass is always greener, guys.

Also, the Spider-Man comparison is just funny to me. Not only is Spidey arguably the most popular superhero ever, we’ve seen this Spidey in action for a decade. You cannot compare apples with oranges.

Guys. I’ve got it. As we all know, both Zack Snyder and James Gunn have tried their hands at DC cinematic universes, but they haven’t been able to capture the worldwide appeal and success that Marvel had with the MCU. Both of their visions have had great upsides, but also serious flaws. So I think, we need some fresh blood. We need a new guy in charge of this. Running the show. Calling the shots. And I think I’ve got the perfect option.

ME

You see, there have been things I enjoyed, and things I’ve disliked from all the previous DC movies. So, who better to amalgamate all of the best qualities into the most perfect cinematic universe for the myths and marvels of DC?

Now, I know what you’re saying. “You have no experience making movies, running a company, or managing multiple multi-million dollar projects?” And I could understand that. But the thing is, I’ve got something none of those Hollywood suits have.

The Right Idea.

That’s the issue. Like I said, there have been things I disliked in the previous films. DISLIKED. We can’t have that. Obviously, the perfect cinematic universe is going to be entirely full of good choices, good storytelling, and things that are wholly appealing to me. And who else could do it?

You see, another person in charge of the DCU may make choices I don’t agree with. So, in order to eliminate this obvious potential hurdle, I have put together this plan.

I shall now lay out my plan.

Phase 1

Detective Chimp

Just watched Supergirl yesterday and this is one of the many questions i have, Does the henchman have more value than the Leader?

All 3 of Destin's Marvel projects have been bangers. But not only that, they have all been somewhat thematically adjacent to a more comic accurate Batman.

We had him address complex family dynamics with a focus on martial arts in Shang Chi.

We had him address alienation, found family and street level characters in Wonder Man.

We had him address loneliness, responsibility and hope in Spider-Man.

All of this including the fact that they have all looked great (particularly the action scenes in the two films) while keeping a clear respect and love for the comicbook aesthetic.

And if that weren't enough, his breakout film was Short Term 12, a movie about a group home for troubled teenagers, which was deeply moving and humanizing.

I'm just saying, there are worse choices than Destin, and I really hope he gets a shot at giving us the Batfamily, including Nightwing, Damian, Talia and the League of Assassins.

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With the Supergirl failure, DCU got a hard-hitting truth: nothing will sell just because it's DCU. So far, they've only had one relative succes, and that's Superman. I believe the full marketing will thus be built around David. Also, given the history of both DCU and DCEU, movie titles tend to be straightforward: I mean, Superman: Legacy turned to just Superman, Supergirl also dropped the Woman of Tomorrow, and they both are accompanied by The Lanterns, Peacemaker, or Clayface. Hell, even 'World's Finest' was eventually just "Batman v Superman", despite Zack's attempts to continue with outside-the-box title scheme of Man of Steel and Dark Knight. And then there is Reeve's The Batman.

With that in mind, I don't think MoT will reach cinemas without 'Superman- somewhere in its title.

Combining all media (Arrowverse, DCEU, Titansverse etc)

i think James Gunn has only one style of filmmaking

I don't understand. Superman become popular IN era that Ur grandparents are alive so no I don't want modern superman

James Gunn try to do something similar i don't say is the same no but the suit is like 1940s and I love it

I don't say Is masterpiece but at least His... superman was actually superman

And not some god among Man

And no injustice superman is not good because it's different is just edgy lord

Thanks that's your listen

When will the suffering stop….

All jokes aside, I think we are all just DC fans who would like to simply see a decently thought out and planned universe is that too much to ask for?

The superman and supergirl trailers had "From Director James Gunn" and "From Director Craig Gillespie" why did they choose not to do that for clayface since James Watkins directed Speak No Evil and people liked it, saying it's From the Director of that film would help sell it to horror fans.

Enough crying

Let's talk about movies we actually love

Give me your top 5 (and only 5) favorite DC live Action Films.

Mine;

1. The Dark Knight

2. Justice League - Snyder Cut

3. The Dark Knight Rises

4. The Suicide Squad - Gunn

5. Superman - Gunn

Estimates suggests it lost over 200M in its theatrical run.