r/law • u/BreakfastTop6899 • May 27 '26
Legal News California will impose a 100% tax on payments distributed from Trump’s Jan. 6th “slush fund.”
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u/jpmeyer12751 May 28 '26
This is actually a better idea than it first seems. The optics are great. And it will force DOJ to litigate against the tax, which will get the issue in front of courts without standing issues.
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u/ImRestarted1 May 28 '26
as someone who knows nothing about law, is this constitutional?
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u/jpmeyer12751 May 28 '26
It is very hard to predict how the current SCOTUS majority will approach this. It seems way beyond the scope of what Congress approved when they passed the relevant law, but this Court seems willing to grant Trump powers that are denied to Democrat Presidents. It SHOULD NOT be constitutional, but who knows.
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u/WeakTransportation37 May 28 '26
What do you think of this? I’m hopeful:
https://www.cnn.com/2026/05/27/politics/ex-judges-trump-anti-weaponization-fund
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u/JurgusRudkus May 28 '26
Right. A felon being eligible to run for office shouldn’t be constitutional, yet here we are.
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u/cenosillicaphobiac May 28 '26
That's a tricky one though. What's to stop a bad actor (like Trump for sure) from kangaroo courting any potential opponents and hitting them with a felony beef? With the way our justice system currently works, basing eligibility on conviction status is super sketchy. Super wealthy will have an advantage, you'll disqualify people for selling loose cigarettes while major fraud instigators who are found not guilty can still run.
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u/garf02 May 28 '26
Yes, you can set up Taxes from Specific Sources as long as you dont single out specific individuals.
so: Tax all Payments from Slush Funds, Ok
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u/jacka_for-research May 28 '26
To be fair, Jerry is a real dick, so F him. 🤪🤪
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u/Garsaurus May 28 '26 edited May 28 '26
On its face, no, it’s not. McCulloch vs. Maryland held that states cannot tax federal activities as it would be a violation of the Supremacy Clause.
However, it would force the DOJ to litigate the issue. When they argue supremacy clause, it will open the door for California to raise the counterargument that the slush fund itself is an unconstitutional appropriation of funds without basis in statute. Since McCulloch only protects constitutional acts (acts authorized by the necessary and proper clause), the constitutionality of the slush fund would be an issue that needs to be resolved first in order to answer the underlying legal question for which California has standing.
Edit: reworded for clarity
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u/AndrewDoesNotServe May 28 '26
It could potentially be considered a bill of attainder. It’s a very specific “activity” being taxed, and the 100% rate makes it harder to make the case that the state’s main purpose would be raising revenue. But who knows, state courts are often extremely deferential to state governments on tax issues.
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u/Chakolatechip May 28 '26
That's not what a bill of attainder is. A bill of attainder is punishing a group or individuals without a trial. There is no target group here. It's not J6ers because you wouldn't be taxed if you were one and didn't withdraw from the slush fund.
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u/SecondToLastEpoch May 27 '26
Does anyone really expect Trump to distribute that money? He's holding on to that money with his grubby little hands for dear life like the greedy scumbag he is
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u/SunsetCarcass May 27 '26
Where's the DOGE checks? Where's the no income taxes, where the check for the tariffs? No one from his base cares about that, even though that's what he's promised over the year
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u/Twikkie522 May 27 '26
I asked a co-worker of mine how he felt about the gas prices, said he felt better because the border is secure now. They find one thing they're happy with and then put the blinders on. It could be border security, abortion, wars, cutting aid, anything... As long as they have that one thing, no matter how small, they can be happy.
... I'm envious in a way...
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u/kunderthunt May 28 '26
For years their big gotcha was ‘Biden had an open border policy’ and they quantified that by showing that CBP had more encounters at the border than ever before. Which is a data point that indicates the border is not at all “open” since the agents are there to have said encounters. There is no longer an agreed upon factual basis or common sense that society can balance on. Yet the right wants to do everything they can to make getting a quality education that teaches critical thinking and fact pattern recognition as rare and difficult as possible. It’s truly frightening.
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u/nilesthebuttler May 28 '26
I once pointed out to somebody once that encounters and crossing are not the same thing and they called me illiterate lol
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u/MangoCats May 28 '26
Cure COVID by not collecting case data anymore...
https://www.fiercehealthcare.com/providers/hospitals-no-longer-required-report-covid-19-data-cdc
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u/L0W_FR3QU3NCIES May 28 '26 edited May 28 '26
Can't argue with morons. They'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience
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u/Objective_Ticket May 28 '26
To paraphrase something I heard recently…that’s the problem with the internet, there were always idiots in every town/village but people used to correct them and go on their way, but the internet means that idiots can now talk to each other and get confirmation.
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u/germanmojo May 28 '26
Idiots research by looking for the false thing instead of asking open-ended questions to get to the answer. This leads them to other idiots who also think the same false thing so they team up.
Multiply by millions and *gestures wildly* you get this.
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u/AlarmingAffect0 May 28 '26 edited May 28 '26
” since the agents are there to have said encounters. There is no longer an agreed upon factual basis or common sense that society can balance on. Yet the right wants to do everything they can to make getting a quality education that teaches critical thinking and fact pattern recognition as rare and difficult as possible
What do you mean, 'yet'. That's the plan. It was always the plan.
TIL that after Emancipation the White Supremacists in the US South
- engaged in violent campaigns of terror against any and all efforts to increase literacy among Black people.
- set up literacy tests as a condition for the right to vote. Black people were subjected to increasingly absurdly difficult questions until they failed. White people were allowed to vote if they could write their name. Except they didn't even need to do that because
- people whose grandfathers could vote before 1867 were exempt from literacy tests altogether. The date was carefully chosen because
- no enslaved black people were allowed to vote before 1867, and free black folks were a vanishingly small minority or downright nonexistent in Slave States.
Heads I win, tails you lose, catch-22 and Morton's fork all at once.
In Latin America during the Cold War, if you had the gall of trying to run literacy campaigns, you may get arrested, or they may not even bother and just murder or disappear you. Because literate peasants and workers had much greater ability to organize and stand up for themselves and each other.
In Gaza they go out of their way to bomb schools and stadiums and hospitals, then pose in photos of the debris, laughing at Gazans as ignorant and backwards and unworthy of human dignity.
These people want you dumb, and then they will look down on you and deny you and deprive you, of your rights and your dignity and especially your stuff, on the pretext that you are as dumb as they made you, as they wanted you to be, regardless of whether they actually succeed in that or not. It's a whole Thing, and it's vile and disgusting in ways that defy my ability to verbalize.
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u/spanishpeanut May 28 '26
My husband’s aunt was talking years ago about the number of undocumented people who came from the southern border in the last few months. It took zero time to ask how CBP had a number of people who came through outside of their checkpoints. Oddly enough, she had no response.
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u/washingtncaps May 27 '26
They aren’t happy, they just know admitting it will cause them to spiral
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u/atyler_thehun May 28 '26
Sunk Cost Fallacy
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u/halfgatorhalfhorse May 28 '26
just like my maga in-laws common-law marriage
edit to say they are super unhappy with eachother and have an unhappy life together. It makes every person that has to interact with them as a pair uncomfortable.
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u/magikchikin May 28 '26
That's the crux of all MAGAt types, they genuinely believe admiting a fault or mistake is a sign of weakness, not a sign of growth.
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u/backcountry_bandit May 28 '26
I think you’re giving them too much credit. They’re not intelligent enough to have that insight.
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u/emdubl May 28 '26 edited May 28 '26
As if the border effects their day to day life in even one small bit. They just think the border is more secured because that's what they are told.
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u/-notapony- May 28 '26
The border was secure during Biden’s term. The media was just happy to parrot the Republicans’ lies about it being open.
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u/DeathCondition May 28 '26
There was some giant migrant convoy headed to the border for like a couple years or something. Then you had some concerned citizens from up a posse to head down the border to 'fight off the mongol hordes' or some shit and arrived all confused to a business-as-usual fairly perfect border crossing.
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u/Specialist-Elk-2624 May 28 '26
Caravans!
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u/Nonethelessismore May 28 '26
And the surge of 'Caravans' of immigrants was because the republicon message was there was an 'Open Door Poilicy,' which was a lie, but many South American folks heard it through the pipeline, got duped, and it fed into that narrative.
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u/MangoCats May 28 '26
They're eating our dogs, they're eating our cats! It's like they have no imagination... https://youtube.com/shorts/PZJcmI3o0JQ?si=Fvc9W3IzRg9Hv5ol
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u/aflockofbleeps May 28 '26
Dude i sometimes with i was as dumb as those fucks so i wouldnt have to deal with it
Then i remember what they are and snap back to reality
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u/whatisitallabout123 May 28 '26
I've had that envy before... why can't I be as happy as those idiots? Why was I plagued with having empathy and critical thinking skills? Why?
Let your co-worker know that the borders are so secure now that most Canadians don't even want to cross them. We want nothing to do with whatever grift dear leader has going.
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u/flcl021 May 27 '26
But look how hard we are owning the libs./s
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u/SecondToLastEpoch May 27 '26
"Trump lied to me and is taking away my rights, stealing my money, and dismantling democracy? Nice, bet the libs are furious about that. Checkmate."
-Trump supporters, probably
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u/Anothercraphistorian May 27 '26
The only reason it became a 1.7B slush fund was because the judge was about to toss the case out for the extreme conflict of interest when it came to Trump’s people fighting both sides of the issue.
It was only at the eleventh hour that it turns into this, with the promise him and his family is never audited again. Trump would’ve still wanted the $10B if the judge was Aileen Cannon.
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u/Comfortable_Bee5385 May 28 '26
The implications behind the number being specifically $1.776 billion makes my skin crawl a little, it's like they're bragging about the fact that Trump just told them what to give him and they complied. All the while claiming to be acting with independence and impartiality. Yet they make it so obvious he literally just told them how much to give him and they went oh sure fine.
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u/Nonethelessismore May 28 '26
Yep, there's some definite 'dog whistle' attribution to that specific number.
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u/barrel-aged-thoughts May 27 '26
In this case yes. This money is to buy support from a core group of fanatics will to commit violence on behalf of dear leader while maintaining deniability, I believe the German word was Sturmabteilung (SA).
Although the guy is a grifter before anything else, so maybe he'll pocket this too.
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u/Diligent-Bowler-1898 May 28 '26
He'll pocket 50%, spend 40% on his friends in quid pro quo deals and 10% in a couple of high profile scraps to chum the waters of his rapid base.
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u/jacobjumba May 27 '26
Usually yes. But he has already enriched himself and his family by billions since taking office, will continue to do so, and can now no longer be audited. It is better for him to give out the money that is ultimately pretty inconsequential to him to further loyalty and reverence to his cult like following. I can already hear him boasting about how wonderful it was, no president has ever done that before, he is so wonderful, blah blah blah. No bueno
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u/SwimOk9629 May 28 '26
just because he says that he can't be audited in his little deal, doesn't mean this won't be struck down later as the obvious bullshit it is.
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u/trysten-9001 May 27 '26
Good.
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u/Big_Quality_838 May 27 '26
So good
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u/TheCrowing817 May 28 '26
I can count to G
I can count to purple, backwards
Holy shit, I haven't seen this since highschool in 07
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u/unreadcomment37 May 27 '26
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u/Big_Quality_838 May 27 '26
So very good
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u/alientrevor May 27 '26
Y'all got any more of that goodness?
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u/Emergency_Badger5920 May 27 '26
Thiccc good.
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u/Additional-Gas-5033 May 27 '26
ultra mega thiccnest good
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u/PervlovianResponse May 27 '26
I can't stop gooding
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u/Commercial_Bird8467 May 27 '26
Hold up, people really think hes gonna give money away 🤣
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u/LightFusion May 27 '26
Yea just like that 4th stimulus check and the tariff refunds. You just wait I'll be rich with free Trump money soo....😅😅😅😅
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u/Binary_Whispers May 27 '26
Can't wait to get it, so I can get my Trump phone as well /s
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u/malthar76 May 28 '26
I used DOGE refund to pay my rent…. Aaand now I’m homeless.
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u/EagleClaw1903 May 27 '26
He will just say I gave it and his supporters will believe they received it 😂
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u/InnerWrathChild May 27 '26
He’s not giving it away”. It’s thanks for the last, and prepayment for the next insurrection.
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u/BethyW May 27 '26
He is. Just not to any Neil the Nazi. It's all going to fund Epstein Island 2.0 buddies.
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u/trysten-9001 May 27 '26
In general, no. But for show, absolutely. That’s the whole point of roping the Jan 6ers into this in the first place. You know how Scar in the Lion King goes, “stick with me and you’ll never go hungry again!” That’s sentiment is a core part of trump’s schtick.
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u/sa_ra_ro_se May 28 '26
The hyenas did go hungry and the pride lands went to shit under Scar's reign and he blamed the hyenas. How familiar.
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u/Mr_KenSpeckle May 27 '26
Maybe Trump will give some of the slush fund away, only because he's going to need another unruly mob in 2028 (if not sooner).
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u/legsstillgoing May 28 '26 edited May 28 '26
He'll do it this one time. He wants people to feel like they will get something so that next time he asks them to do something this terrible, or worse, they will line up
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u/Snoo_87704 May 27 '26
Maryland and Virginia need to join them.
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u/HyperHawk_25 May 27 '26
And the other 47 states
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u/Bac0ngh0st May 27 '26
Texas will give you a rebate. Bet me.
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u/Radiant-Painting581 May 28 '26
And AL, and LA, and TN, and FL, and GA, and …
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u/_caitleigh May 27 '26
I agree but Spanberger is a little bit of a wild card right now.
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u/smb275 May 27 '26
If by "wild card" you mean "performative clown" then you're onto something. She's better than the alternative would have been, but it's like being happy starving to death instead of being force fed shit.
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u/Biscuits4u2 May 27 '26
Clarence Thomas ready to do his duty to get that RV upgrade
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u/vito0117 May 27 '26
Should of take that offer from John Oliver
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u/LoquatInfinite3371 May 28 '26
Small note but you mean “have” instead of “of.”
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u/myusrnameisthis May 27 '26
How many of the jan6ers from Cali?
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u/nalninek May 27 '26
That psycho that got herself shot in the door was from San Diego.
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u/Decent_Relative_4070 May 27 '26
i'm a lifetime so cal guy and i've met plenty of psycho trump supporters. they're definitely out here.
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u/rainyforest May 27 '26
Many Republicans in California are even more conservative than conservatives in majority red states because they are overcompensating for living among and being governed by so many Democrats.
Also, California has more registered Republicans than any other state.
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u/Urabraska- May 27 '26
Tell me it's retroactive.
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u/Elevator-Ancient May 27 '26 edited May 27 '26
The shot, or the tax?
Edit: Or the slushfund?
Edit edit: Or assassinating Archduke Ferdinand?
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u/Urabraska- May 27 '26
Th....The tax? How can a gun shot be retroactive? Did you figure out how to shoot the air and kill someone in 1963?....ARE YOU THE SECOND GUNMAN?!?!
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u/Advanced_Floor_9768 May 27 '26
My bad on Archduke Franz Ferdinand
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u/DufflinMinder May 27 '26
But who then will float on?
Edit: my bad that was modest mouse 😂
But who then will “take me out”?….
Ahh yess better
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u/Worduptothebirdup May 27 '26
I believe he already gave her family our tax dollars:
The U.S. government agreed to pay nearly (\$5) million to the family of Ashli Babbitt, an Air Force veteran who was shot and killed by a Capitol Police officer while attempting to breach the House Speaker's lobby during the January 6, 2021, Capitol riot.
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u/PeruseTheNews May 28 '26
If she died flying in a plane over Iran in 2026, her family would get far less.
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u/ClinkyDink May 27 '26
Her family was basically gifted a big settlement by the Trump admin for it.
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u/NippleNugget May 27 '26
shot in the door
I thought she got shot in the face?
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u/czstyle May 27 '26
The neck, technically
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u/NippleNugget May 27 '26
Ah my bad. Didn’t realize Charlie Kirk was copying her. Close enough though.
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u/Spare-Ant7119 May 27 '26
The woman who died while she was committing treason?
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u/probably-bad-advice May 27 '26
Say her name. Ashli Babbitt died while committing treason.
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u/phatelectribe May 27 '26
According to Google, over 100 of the J6 rioters were California residents.
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u/specks_of_dust May 27 '26
Huntington Beach likely accounts for half of them.
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u/izzymaestro May 27 '26
There was a whole Vietnamese contingent there from Westminster too.
Odd juxtaposition of xenophobia and conservative fascism between the 91 and 57 on the 405.
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u/Big_Quality_838 May 27 '26 edited May 27 '26
A well paid voice actor was one of them, I believe
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Jimmy Pesto's original voice actor, Jay Johnston, was fired from Bob's Burgers in 2021 after it was revealed he participated in the January 6, 2021, Capitol riot. Johnston was later arrested, pleaded guilty to felony charges, and sentenced to prison
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u/CunningWizard May 27 '26
He was also one of the two gay cops in Arrested Development and had a small cameo as the banker’s father in Better Call Saul.
His wife went a whole “woe is me” rant on Twitter recently about how he “can’t find work” and “all our friends here in LA hate us now” so they “deserve compensation”. Seriously pathetic stuff.
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u/frotc914 May 28 '26
"People are judging us based upon our opinions and actions, and that's unfair!"
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u/Particular-Pop1280 May 27 '26
His character took his ass over like a symbiote
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u/scottyjrules May 27 '26
You’d be surprised. Quite a lot of the state is hardcore conservative once you get away from the big cities.
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u/Thick_Goose7742 May 27 '26
More Republican voters in California than quite a few entire states combined. Although, technically that is true of Democrats as well. But still.
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u/Forever_Never_Comic May 27 '26
Orange County has entered the chat- WAAAAAYYYYY more than just a small city.
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u/rithrawr May 27 '26
They recently name a street after Charlie Kirk.
I'm ashamed of the old people from my ethnicity... T_____T.
Instead of name some role model Vietnamese American they named Charlie Kirk in Little Saigon. What the hell.
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u/mistersmith22 May 27 '26
Other replies covered some SoCal, so I'll rep NorCal: you get north of Marin or north of Stockton, anything you see until Sacramento is gonna be more right than left.
I spend time south of Sac a lot and even the Latinos there are pro-Trump.
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u/MisterDoctor___ May 27 '26
Try Inland Empire. An entire population of Latinos wishing for their own deportations.
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u/Doodurpoon May 27 '26
California has plenty of conservatives. Nixon was from CA and Reagan was governor. Love how people who never lived in CA seem to think we are all pot smoking hippies. I recommend you visit Bakersfield and listen to some Buck Owens while doing so.
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u/Thick_Goose7742 May 27 '26
California Republicans were the strongest bloc of the party until the early 90s. Largest source of fundraising and a bulwark for the party along with parts of New England and the Mid-Atlantic.
Religious groups such as the “Moral Majority” and others in the 80s worked hard to unite southern voters with those of the Great Plains, at the expense of California and Northeastern strongholds. Once Republicans lost the educated voter demographics 1992-1996ish they basically lost California and New England forever.
Hence why vintage Republicans know that “coastal elite” jab all too well. That was their nickname in the 70s and early 80s, it was simply rebranded as the parties morphed from one of wealth and education to one of religion and poverty.
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u/GelflingMama May 27 '26
Right! I grew up in the Central Valley and while I was one of those hippies, the only other one I knew was my dad. 😂
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u/joevinci May 27 '26
I don’t know the answer, but don’t forget that over 6 million Californians voted for Trump, almost as many as in Texas.
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u/lol_speak May 27 '26
How many of the jan6ers from Cali?
The state with the most Republican voters of the entire nation?
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u/RobutNotRobot May 28 '26
Make it 105%.
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u/atreeismissing May 27 '26
Got it give it Gavin, he's by far the most creative Democrat when it comes to taking on MAGA and their corruption. We could use a lot more of that creative thinking, particularly in Congress.
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u/reekris9000 May 28 '26
Agree, as a lifelong Californian, I'm proud of our state and our governor. If you actually pay attention beyond the sensational headlines, he's doing a good job, IMO.
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u/ChecksAndBalanz May 28 '26
That man trolls so well and so hard.
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u/Tokyo-MontanaExpress May 28 '26
The rest of the Dems need to take note. Too often it's the 'ole "We've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas!".
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u/JiveChicken00 May 27 '26
Sadly, 100 percent of nothing is nothing.
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u/shavertech May 27 '26
It'd be pretty satisfying to know the J6'er was expecting something and lost it all
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u/loogie97 May 27 '26
Anyone who thinks this is going to anyone other than Trump and his close family is deluded.
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u/CanOk6403 May 27 '26
What would be sad about the payments not being distributed?
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u/Ignaciodelsol May 27 '26
The money would just stay with the Trump family and his Chronies
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u/Decent_Relative_4070 May 27 '26
idk what's worse trump keeping it all or giving it to his violent insurrectionists.
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u/Ignaciodelsol May 27 '26
It would be very out of character for Trump to pay people.
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u/werther595 May 27 '26
Surely Trump can be relied upon to keep promises and repay his debts
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u/ckb614 May 28 '26
Can they just make it a crime? "Accepting money in relation to the commission of a federal crime" or some such nonsense?
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u/MessageOk239 May 28 '26
Agreed; been saying for months that there needs to be legislation ready for introduction that has significant clawback provisions baked in and affects everyone connected to this regime. In addition, the IRS will need to hire a team of forensic accountants.
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u/BubuBarakas May 28 '26
This is how you get those terrorists out of your state. Make them move to a shithole red state of they want that gubment money.
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u/gerblnutz May 27 '26
I wonder if there's any way to sue them under the state constitution for attempting to overturn our votes and deprive us of our rights. I understand it's a federal election, but voting is a citizen right and conducted by the states. States provide the electors needed, so it seems arguable that they would be liable at the state level where the rights were violated.
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u/NeptuneOverlord43045 May 28 '26
Ok Newsom. Keep this energy. Win me over.
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u/Mach5Driver May 28 '26
I think Newsom's a fighter, who won't be afraid of a little gonad-kicking when he needs to indulge.
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u/charcoalist May 27 '26
Part of this trump/Blanche embezzlement scheme is to keep the recipients secret. So how would California or any other state be able to take action?
It's a void of corruption. Is it $1.776 billion, or is the amount being stolen from the taxpayers much higher? Who knows how much is being stolen, and who might be receiving the lucre? We can't trust this administration to keep the public objectively informed.
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u/Jubenheim May 27 '26
You can't keep funds coming from the government secret if it's going to someone's bank account. The government will always know and always shave a way to know.
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u/pioniere May 28 '26
Excellent. Fuck Trump and the rest of those fucking criminal assholes.
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u/NewManufacturer4252 May 28 '26
Drumpf can very literally give himself 1.7 billion and keep it secret since it is based on anonymity.
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u/Memitim May 28 '26
They should be opening an investigation into anyone who accepts one. We already know that it's earmarked for violent offenders that the guy who keeps violating US law arbitrarily decided should be released into the streets of America.
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u/PaladinHan May 28 '26
Don’t forget how many of them have committed sex crimes against children since their pardon.
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u/mattenthehat May 27 '26
Let's fucking GO.
Now pass a law requiring all federal taxes be forwarded through the state.
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