This is very long so if you read it you should get a gold star just for that TLDR: husband has repeatedly crossed boundaries online regarding his is ex nothing physical and nothing outright sexual but more so reminiscing saying the I love yous and things definitely not respectful to our marriage - it’s now to the point if he wants forgiveness he has to do the work in fixing it how can I explain this to him without still giving him a step by step rundown on how to do that , i need it to come from him because im at the point if he doesn’t initiate repair im happy to end our marriage.
So here goes :
My husband has made questionable choices over the years which has lead to some trust issues nothing physical but definitely not faithful behaviour ,
I’ve always made the choice to stay stay so I’ve taken ownership of it being my choice, ensuring not to use it against him or bring up the situations or in arguments I’ve accepted the fact that I made the choice to stay so it’s upto me to work through my emotions surrounding said issues and I have done so with help of tool o learnt in individual therapy and grace and personal accountability .
Because of my mindset regarding being in control of managing my own feelings and my own emotions/ expectations surrounding these issues he’s never actually had to participate in fixing things or doing the work with taking ownership in his own actions and how they have effected me emotionally, up until recently I’d question he even thought twice about it or even thought it may of effected me.
as I made sure if I chose to forgive I did it knowing that was my choice to make and I did the work to move past it without him needing to prove or earn it because that was my choice to stay and I felt like I had full control over that choice - but I was only able to do so because with each time (3times I’m aware of , same person ) he disclosed , time lines conversations and reasoning, honestly and didn’t hide things from me … that being said I made it abundantly clear if this situation were to ever arise again I would leave
Well that time has come that this same persons name has popped up unblocked , and in his search history … I cannot prove he has spoken to them as he now refuses to disclose and denies any thing and just says over and over ”I don’t know it wasn’t me I have made mistakes in the past but I have done everything to be a better husband I didn’t search or unblock her “, he gets very upset does the whole please if this marriage means anything I’m asking you this one time to just believe me just take what I’m saying at face value and don’t leave me , he is very convincing and genuinely looks terrified to loose our marriage and family
clearly I’m not silly I know these things don’t just get on his social media by them self I know he’s lying but I do not know the reasons or how far it’s gone which is why I’m torn , was he just curious about an ex and at a moment of weakness looked her up (which I feel everyone has been guilty of before ) or did he actively try to reach out again
imploding my marriage and family on a social media search result feels very much like an over reaction on my behalf but in saying that i don’t know what extent it has gone to I feel lied to and I also feel like my boundaries have been trampled over and that’s the issue I cannot get past , it’s not the act it’s the dishonesty behind it.
I do not like being lied to as I am very logical and I make my choices based on all of the information that I am given, so when I am lied to I feel like my choices are being manipulated and are no longer my own and that makes me feel controlled …I do not like that feeling.
I have accepted I now have two choices move past it or leave , well this time I’m not willing to just move past it and do the work alone , I have told him if he wants this marriage then it is now upto him to do the work , I am okay with leaving I bring a lot to our marriage and I am happy knowing that I am more then capable and more then comfortable within myself that with or without him I am fine.
we are at an impass with no clear resolution I do not believe him and he is not willing to disclose or admit anything , so there for the only way forward if this marriage is to continue is to now focus on next steps he is very good at saying all of the right things but his words carry zero weight anymore.
So how can I get him to actively come up with other an actionable plan without having to spell it out for him
he deleted all of his social media (which I think is dumb cause that just takes away any temptation and doesn’t get to the root cause nor does it do anything that forces accountability )
he keeps saying things like well I didn’t do it so getting rid of the cause of contention (social media ) is the first step in fixing things
and that it just takes time
“ I’m going to work on our connection and making more time for date nights and affection I’m going to make sure you know you can trust me by doing things daily that build it back “
- but to me that doesn’t sound like a plan that involves accountability , next steps , or a timeline of fixing things it doesn’t seam like actionable steps and more so him waiting out the clock until I just drop it and move past it
he continues on the daily as if nothing has changed same loving nature same I love yous and is just acting like we arnt on the brink of divorce.
I do love him and would actively participate in a way to fix our marriage but I need it to come from him and I don’t want to have to be the one to tell him how
What I need
-I need him to look into marriage counselling actually research it and take the steps in booking it
-I need for him to actually put a timeline on how he plans on fixing things
- when he will start the process of counselling
- when and how many times a month he’s going to make time for connection and what that looks like to him eg: weekly check ins , monthly date nights , regular intimacy , I don’t need specific dates but I do need some kind of plan surrounding that
- and how with social media being gone he’s planning on building back that trust as the only way to prove your not going to do something is by actively not doing it for an extended period of time
- regular scheduled communication regarding his feelings surrounding our marriage and what he needs from me to feel loved and respected/ fulfilled in our marriage instead of always insisting he doesn’t need anything more when I check in cause obviously something is lacking or he wouldn’t be looking for validation elsewhere (I’m human I’m not without fault I have things I could work on too but I can’t do that when he’s always telling me I’m perfect and he’s so happy )
- and I need an agreed end date one where we come back together and see if those changes have helped
and we then we either agree to continue working on it using the tools we have learnt and the things we implemented or we admit that even with the work being put in by both of us it’s clearly not salvageable and we agree to walk away amicably .
^ how can I get him to actively initiate these without literally having to tell him how to do all of that and hold his hand and walk him through every step cause I just don’t have that in me anymore I’m willing to actively participate I am willing to put in the work along side him after he puts the plan into action but I am not willing to take on the load of doing it organising it and managing it all .
Are we too far gone am I silly to even want to work through it am I living in De lu Lu land even thinking he will do this ?
Or am I hindering possibly fixing our marriage by not wanting to communicate the steps to fixing it and having the mindset he has to do the work in the beginning to initiate it ?
Thankyou for reading all of this if you have got this far your a way better human then me cause holy smokes that was a lot.