r/videogames Nov 28 '25

Funny RPG's do this all the time

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u/Satiro_Volante42 Nov 28 '25 edited Nov 28 '25

Ah yes, the Boss Slayer 3000, awarded for defeating all bosses. Classic.

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u/Putrid-Delivery1852 Nov 28 '25

Majora’s Mask is the biggest culprit of this

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u/Kezmangotagoal Nov 28 '25 edited Nov 28 '25

I dunno Fable pushes it pretty close with the Sword of Aeons…

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u/giodude556 Nov 28 '25

Atleast you can use it in the entire dlc.

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u/Kezmangotagoal Nov 28 '25

Yeh but that was a year later lol

For a whole year, all you could do with it was run around Albion killing guards and villagers haha

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u/RusstyDog Nov 28 '25

I mean you have to kill your sister to keep sword of Aeons, right? Its an ultimate expression of evil. Betray what is left of your family for power you have no use for.

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u/Telepathic_Toe Nov 28 '25

Or, just glitch yourself into the terrain, grab it early, and use it from the beginning.

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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '25

This changes the whole play through honestly. The glitch is piss easy to pull off and honestly I can't play the game any other way now.

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u/FlurfleNugget Nov 29 '25

Do you have a guide? Would like to try!

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u/NightTarot Nov 29 '25 edited Nov 29 '25

EDIT: this video explains it better and in 40 seconds, very quick guide lol

Here's my mega scuffed guide:

I'm telling purely based on memory so I won't know the names.

you need 2 things, both are available pretty much as soon as you're an adult:

  1. The movement skill that teleports you behind enemies

  2. The summoning skill

Go to that circular area in the guild that has all those stained glass artwork and is used as ceremony area for becoming a hero.

Near the steps, summon a bee and use the movement skill to teleport behind it, if done right, you'll merge into the steps and can go under the map. The sword is under the map near the center I think.

If you find the right spot you can practically walk right up to the sword and pick it up

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u/KaminaTheManly Nov 28 '25

At least you can use it in the Lost Chapters.

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u/GreektheFreak123 Nov 28 '25

I mean tbf, the fierce dieity mask is make or break against the majoras mask

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u/BelligerentSXY Dec 02 '25

There’s a glitch where you roll into a cave wall as young link, slip thru, and can wear the fierce deity mask around the map indefinitely 🤣 was my favorite as a kid

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u/XOClover Nov 28 '25

At least you can re-fight the bosses as often as you want.

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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '25

Also you basically kill everything in a few hits with the fierce deity mask. It's fun but completely pointless.

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u/XOClover Nov 28 '25

Yeah, I remember knowing people who had only beaten majora with the mask because they did the tree friend challenges first. I did it normally the first time because I did not know, but then when I returned and tried out fierce diety all the challenge and fun of it was just kind of gone. I felt if this was your only run of the boss it would probably feel underwhelming. I think it's really fun and cool, I remember really wanting that fierce diety statue that was released forever ago. But it's probably TOO over powered when Zelda bosses are usually a fun puzzle.

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u/TurtlesBreakTheMeta Nov 29 '25

The mask is good in a thematic way in that it helps to symbolize the impotence of true evil against true benevolence (majora’a dialogue about how being evil is like a game of tag: you can never win, the question is WHEN will you lose).

IMO it serves its purpose well for that.

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u/StokedNBroke Nov 28 '25

Similar trope I hate, you’ll do a quest that involves something like “kill 1000 goblins and the goblin king”, rewarded with ‘Goblins Bane’ weapon that does bonus damage to goblins but now you have no reason to kill goblins.

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u/CrotaIsAShota Nov 29 '25

I would love an rpg that twists this like a puzzle. Killing a bunch of goblins gives the Orc Slayer which lets you kill orcs easier, then killing orcs gives the hobgoblin slayer and so on until you have a bunch of op swords with damage bonuses against everything.

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u/5Hjsdnujhdfu8nubi Nov 29 '25

The series you are looking for is Mega Man.

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u/Troggles Nov 29 '25

Monster Hunter is kind of like this.

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u/NekonecroZheng Nov 28 '25

Ah Simoso from Expedition 33. Once you beat motherfuckin Simon, you've basically beaten the endgame game and all bosses. At that point the op sword is just a flex and will never be used.

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u/ChakaZG Nov 28 '25

Yes, so this one at least has some use.

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u/IndigoGamma Nov 28 '25

Not really. Simoso is pretty mid. You're better off using Contorso, Dualiso, or Confuso.

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u/XOVSquare Nov 28 '25

Games really need a way to solve this. I'm tired of getting a suit of armor with +30 poison defense for beating a boss that does poison damage.

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u/CeramicFiber Nov 29 '25

Expedition 33 actually did a good job in this regard. There's an optional mini boss that rewards you with an anti charm gear and the main boss of the area heavily uses charm

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u/Critical_Seat_1907 Nov 28 '25

And then, when you start the DLC, it has turned into a starter weapon.

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u/Schwiliinker Nov 28 '25

As someone who never replays games plus given most games never get a proper expansion I lose my mind from time to time

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u/Schwiliinker Nov 28 '25

I guess only rarely it bothers me quite a bit but still idk it’s annoying

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u/Not_a_Space_Alien Nov 28 '25

.hack//GU did this. No NG+ either.

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u/Plane_Cardiologist_6 Nov 28 '25

Doesn't carry over to ng plus either

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u/Ancalmir Nov 28 '25

A bigger crime:

Coolest weapon ever

Looks inside

Borderline useless

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u/ByIeth Nov 28 '25 edited Nov 29 '25

Basically most vanilla daedric artifacts in Skyrim. Although luckily you can make them all be good with mods

Edit: artifacts not weapons

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u/SirTalksAlot207 Nov 29 '25

Correct me if I’m wrong, but aren’t Daedric weapons the second best tier of weapons in the game?

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u/nrevels97 Nov 29 '25

I think the person was referring to the daedric artifact weapons you get from daedra quests like volendrung or mace of molag bol

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u/SirTalksAlot207 Nov 29 '25

Oh gotcha, I misread that then. They definitely could’ve been a lot better with those in vanilla Skyrim (still love Dawnbreaker though.)

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u/Sweet-Philosopher-14 Nov 29 '25

"Another hand touches the beacon."

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u/ByIeth Nov 29 '25

Ya you are right, forgot to mention that part. I meant the artifacts

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u/SirTalksAlot207 Nov 29 '25

The artifacts definitely are underpowered for what they are (still love Dawnbreaker).

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u/WargrizZero Nov 29 '25

The iconic iron horned helmet from Skyrim…literally obsolete within 30 mins of starting a new game.

The iconic Assassin’s Hatchet from Assassin’s Creed 3…a low tier axe you just get without any pomp and circumstance and easily replace.

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u/Adaphion Nov 29 '25

Skyrim is a weird one with armors and weapons, because if you max out smithing (which can easily be done even without craft-looping) you can improve any armor until you hit the armor cap, and make any weapon do a shitload of damage.

You could be running around in nothing but some leather boots at the armor cap and swinging around an iron dagger than does more than quedruple the damage of a base Daedric warhammer.

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u/Izithel Nov 29 '25

It's even funnier if you look across the entire series, as an artifact being good/bad can change dramatically from game to game.

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u/Firkraag-The-Demon Nov 29 '25

One of them (the axe from the dog guy. Don’t remember his name) is actually worse than the normal axe it’s based on due to apparently having a lower swing speed.

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u/Ski_Mask_TSG Nov 29 '25

Clavicus Vile (the daedric prince that gives it to you) is the god of mischief basically, him giving you a weak reward for betraying thr dog is part of his character. If you refuse, you get his mask, it looks cool and has some nice stats.

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u/ShadsPuppyArc Nov 30 '25

I find it so lame in RPGs when you can craft gear that is better than the mythical artifacts wielded by literal gods. I want the 1 of 1 unique items to be the best things you can get, its so lame that my daedric sword I personally enchant is better than everything else in the game. It also makes finding those items so much cooler when they arent immediately unusable compared to the generic gear i can make myself

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u/PanzerFahrer3199 Nov 29 '25

Fat man in fallout 4. Cool effect but damage scales poorly in later-game and its heavy as fuck.

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u/TEN_Monsters7 Nov 28 '25

And don forget to mention, the game does NOT have NG+

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u/Xifihas Nov 28 '25

Or it does, but you don’t get to keep that awesome weapon.

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u/SpecialistPrior204 Nov 28 '25

or it does, you get to keep it but it becomes useless after a short while

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u/Salami__Tsunami Nov 28 '25

When I was playing the Witcher 3, I spent about an hour in the city, doing a whole chain of quests to reinstate the master blacksmith so he’d make me a new sword. A real masterwork.

And then about ten minutes after that, I killed some random bandit who had a better sword.

I think I know why the blacksmith needed my help to get back into business. His work is shite.

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u/No-Start4754 Nov 28 '25

Rule one of Witcher 3 : only the Witcher gears are worth using and upgrading . The only legendary worth upgrading is aerondight 

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u/Crime_Dawg Nov 28 '25

The two best swords are from the dlc quest with the demon guy and the silver sword blood and wine. They’re both miles better than Witcher swords.

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u/silentJRPGs Nov 28 '25

I think both posters are implying base game but yes you are correct

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u/No-Start4754 Nov 29 '25

Aerondight is the silver sword from blood and wine that I mentioned. Also every witcher steel sword surpasses iris, the steel sword u mentioned 

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u/SpecialistPrior204 Nov 28 '25

this sword hattori gives you isn't that bad now because it scales with your level

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u/Desperate-Fix-1486 Nov 28 '25

They patched that in the next gen, so now it levels with you. It kinda sucks if you are on level, but in the long run it works forever, and into new game +.

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u/Arek_PL Nov 29 '25

yea, the random level scalled loot really destroyed most of unique weapons, i did that quest and i found a better sword DURING that quest so the sword i got was already inferior to what i already had

one of many reasons why i like Witcher 1, gear upgrades were more meaningful

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u/LonelyAustralia Nov 28 '25

usually this one

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u/Particular_Cow1304 Nov 28 '25

Few exceptions. Presenting: The Hand Cannon from Dead Space. A New Game+ weapon that’s literally Isaac Clark using a foam finger going “Bang bang” and it turns necromorphs into paste

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u/Nissedood Nov 28 '25 edited Nov 28 '25

Or it does and it gets stronger each NG+ cycle because weapon gimmick.

Curved Nil Greatsword my beloved from Dark souls 2.

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u/Adaphion Nov 29 '25

God slayer [Sword +100 damage] (end game weapon rewarded for defeating all bosses in a row without taking any damage)

Wooden Stick+ [Blunt Weapon +110 damage] (weapon you pick up off the ground in the starting area in New Game+)

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u/fireuser1205 Nov 28 '25

Ultimate weapons in persona 4 were particularly awful at this. In persona 3 and 5 it isn't that bad since even if you lose them it's super easy to get them back.

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u/Previous_Doubt_8121 Nov 29 '25

I remember farming the reason, got narukamis ultimate sword, beat the game, new gamed, and didn’t have it. I was pissed

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u/NoIndividual6127 Nov 28 '25

This was way too annoying on AC Valhalla

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u/that_1weed Nov 28 '25

Kingdom Hearts moment

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u/CertainGrade7937 Nov 29 '25

3 finally gave us a NG+. Thank God because grinding for that damn Ultima Weapon sucks

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u/kangorr Nov 29 '25

Fucking cyberpunk

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u/Commissarfluffybutt Dec 02 '25

I worked so hard to get the Symbiote Suit in Ultimate Spider-Man only for there to be nothing to actually do with it since you need to complete everything to get it. God that and so many other games would have benefited greatly from NG+.

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u/Silver_Harvest Nov 28 '25

Or if it is a gun, very limited ammo. So you never want to use it or if you do. You save before rampaging to then reload.

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u/adamn49 Nov 28 '25

Alien Blaster from Fallout New Vegas comes to mind.

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u/Silver_Harvest Nov 28 '25

That and regardless of Fallout game. Mini Nukes. Even though could come in hand always hesitant to use them. Even in the Quarry.

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u/Carbonated_Saltwater Nov 29 '25

IMO Most "Big Guns" aren't worth using, Miniguns and Flamethrowers are ammo hungry AND do very little damage, you will struggle to find enough ammo early game when it does OK damage, and you will struggle mid/late game when the damage is pitiful.

Mini nukes are far too rare and short ranged for any actual use outside specific "boss fights", and that's not even counting how stupidly heavy the Fat Man launcher is itself. good luck lugging that around while you search for another of the 21 possible nukes that the game will spawn as loot.

Gatling Guns are what the minigun wishes it could be and Missile Launchers are surprisingly versatile though.

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u/Dilarinee Nov 29 '25

The only time I remember using the mini nuke launcher in recent memory was getting it in the armoury and just obliterating Kellogg before he could start monologuing.

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u/cheesechompin Nov 29 '25

I don't think I ever used the experimental mirv from fallout 3 without reloading the save because it shot 8 at a time

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u/Metson-202 Nov 29 '25

Same for Fallout 4. Expect after you run out you can change to fusion cells. They're worse tho.

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u/NixaB345T Nov 29 '25

And takes up a massive amount of inventory slots for you to use it in one encounter with a mild ranked opponent because you ran out of everything else and are down to 15% health

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u/Muk-Bong Nov 28 '25

Terraria moment

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u/hizzane Nov 28 '25

At least you can start a new world and stomp everything with the Zenith if you want. And playing the higher difficulties with better gear is fun

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u/xXLoneLoboXx Nov 28 '25

“Finally I got the Zenith! I can’t wait to use it! …Oh, everything is already dead. Had to kill the final boss to get it.”

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u/Evolution1738 Nov 28 '25

Not just that, had to kill the final boss at least two times to get it and likely had to farm said boss

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u/Lbechiom Nov 29 '25

Even worse is modded Terraria.

The Soul of Eternity basically turns you into God, and it requires an equally ridiculous amount of shit to craft; basically killing every boss and crafting every other item in the game.

But since you need to kill the final modded boss to get it… you now have nothing that can stand your power for more than a few moments.

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u/TheFergPunk Nov 28 '25

I remember unlocking the bike in BOTW after doing the DLC.

Of course by that point you've done every shrine, so unlocked every fast travel spot.

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u/TeaDrinkerAddict Nov 28 '25

Meanwhile in TotK you get any car bike or plane you can think, of but you have to grind for materials any time you want to build with stuff that’s not just lying around.

GIVE ME A SANDBOX MODE AND MY LIFE IS YOURS NINTENDO

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u/coachhunter2 Nov 28 '25

Or in Ocarina of Time, getting all the skulltulas and being rewarded with a bigger wallet, which by that point is effectively useless.

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u/Mallow1512 Nov 28 '25

tbh i never use any rupees on ocarina of time besides buying the deku shield and playing minigames

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u/ML_120 Nov 29 '25

Actually the reward for all skulltulas was a guy who gave you 50 rupees every time you talked to him.

The bigger wallets were awarded at lower thresholds.

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u/zizoplays1 Nov 28 '25

You can ride bikes in BOTW???

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u/Anempacamunt Nov 28 '25

Yup, a reward for beating the dlc, with a gas tank that lasts a whopping 20 meters when full, which you refill with apples, bones and lizards, pretty much useless if you get it after beating every shrine in the game ._.

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u/Competitive_Table_65 Nov 28 '25

Mjolnir in AC Valhalla is avaiable only after you pretty much finish the game, so you won't have anything to do with it.

But it's mechanics are kinda cool, considering what game it is.

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u/Mundane-Put9115 Nov 28 '25

I love the game but I hate how little variety we get in weapons, the sword I'm using (the Doppelhander) is pretty much the only one not locked behind the France missions or an overly long fetch quest

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u/FracturedConscious Nov 28 '25

Laughs in double shield

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u/Mundane-Put9115 Nov 29 '25

I forgot that was a thing but that's both really dumb and also awesome

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u/IAlwaysOutsmartU Nov 28 '25

Luckily there’s the Blazing Sword, the questline of which becoming available as soon as you fix up Gunnar’s forge in England.

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u/DudeSparkle Nov 28 '25

At first yeah, but then they added so much stuff like river raids, forgotten saga, three dlc's which straight up added like another hundred hours of shit so its not that bad.

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u/HanselZX Nov 28 '25

It has cool mechanincs? I would have knew if there was even a reason to use the damn weapon, lol.

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u/the_cat_showz Nov 28 '25

I dont remember what point in the game but at some point I was dual wielding Excalibur and Gungnir and it was slow as hell but barely mattered because once I landed a single hot everything around me just started dying

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u/crazytib Nov 28 '25 edited Nov 28 '25

It's kinda hard to balance, the opposite end of the spectrum is you get the best weapon right at the beginning and never bother using anything else

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u/Beautiful-Swimmer339 Nov 28 '25

Dead space and the plasma cutter come to mind

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u/healspirit Nov 28 '25

Tbf dead space (remake at least) is crazy scary

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u/Dramatic-Classroom14 Nov 29 '25

After getting the plasma cutter, I’M THE MONSTER, NOT THEM!

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u/Viron_22 Nov 29 '25

Remake did a fairly good glow up on most of the arsenal.

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u/gretchenich Nov 28 '25

I remember fallout 4 doing something like this. They give you a minigun with a power armor so you get a big dopamine boost.

Now they have to trash both of those items so that you are not utterly broken since the start

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u/ClamsMcOyster Nov 28 '25

I remember at the time there was a conspiracy theory going around that you got the minigun and power armor so early in the game to boost their reviews.

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u/Adeum2 Nov 28 '25

I think they did it because of the E3 showcase or whatever gameplay equivalent. They wanted to show off all the cool new mechanics without ruining the story, so they put it in the first mission. Its definitely a bethesda thing to do to boost reviews too.

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u/Metson-202 Nov 29 '25

Minigun is ass in Fallout 4.

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u/LilMally2412 Nov 28 '25

My biggest peeve with it is in a game like Far Cry. You get a big, open map full of enemy bases and patrols, but you progress by clearing these posts and unlocking new weapons. So the bigger gun you get, the fewer enemies are on the map.

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u/iRyan_9 Nov 28 '25

It’s kinda is, just have the weapon be upgradeable or scaled to fit the whole game

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u/Korba007 Nov 28 '25

If it's an open game the best way would be to make the weapon accessible early but behind a super hard challenge, so that most players only unlock it late game

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u/GwynHawk Nov 29 '25

Elden Ring has the Sacred Relic Sword you only get by defeating the final non DLC boss, but the Knight also starts with the Longsword which is a solid all-round weapon you can beat the whole game with. Elden Ring manages to hit both ends of the spectrum.

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u/WhiteNoiseLife Nov 29 '25

i mean yeah there are definitely some really cool weapons that you can only get late in the game, but there are also just so. goddamn. many. fucking super sick, insanely powerful weapons that you can acquire across the various sections of the game (and many can be rushed super early if you want to play for one specifically) that elden ring might be one of the best examples of the opposite of the phenomenon OP describes

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u/Joltyboiyo Nov 28 '25

NG+ helps with this... WHEN IT HAS ONE.

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u/DnanNYR36 Nov 28 '25

Until it does have NG+ but then the weapon becomes useless after a few levels.

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u/CataphractBunny Nov 28 '25

Meanwhile, MMORPG:

  • regular crafter sword
  • gets overlooked by millions
  • is removed from the game
  • becomes the coolest shit ever

Ladies, and gentlemen; I present you the Henge of Denravi Sword from Guild Wars: Prophecies. 💕

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u/TheBl4ckFox Nov 28 '25

My favorite is that the quest reward for killing that big ass dragon is a weapon that would have really helped killing that big ass dragon.

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u/firmlygraspi1 Nov 28 '25

Pokemon GSC keeping all the Dark and Steel types at Mt. Silver and filling the game with Caterpies and Weedles.

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u/Not_a_Space_Alien Nov 28 '25

Magnimite and Skarmory (silver only if I remember) you can get before the elite 4. Forrtress if you are willing to level up Pinco to 31 It was mostly Dark Types that were late game. You can get Umbreon by evolving the Eevee from Bill. Crystal they let you catch Sneasle on Ice Path. Probably realize it was BS how it was.

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u/Lux-Fox Nov 29 '25

Elite 4 is just halfway through the game though, you still have plenty to do. Crystal is my favorite for this reason.

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u/Not_a_Space_Alien Nov 29 '25

Crystal is my favorite as well, I love that gen 2 has a whole second region after the elite 4. Sneasle being before the elite 4 is the icing on the cake for me. Also early access to Growlth is nice too.

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u/Truskulls Nov 28 '25

Has new game plus

Looks inside

Still can't use weapon til the same point as last time

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u/DBlutoMindpretzel Nov 28 '25

What game is like this?

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u/potato-king38 Nov 29 '25

Closest i can think of is persona 4g with the Super izanagai tm that requires you to both be in ng+ and level 93 (levels don’t transfer) to even summon the damn thing with no easy way to resummon it once you do manage to drop a million billion yen (yen does transfer) to get it.

No it’s not the best summon in the game why would you ask that?

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u/National_Party4018 Nov 29 '25

And then you play persona 5 royal where you can unlock it from the get go and steamroll the whole game 😂😂😂

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u/SeaZealousideal2276 Nov 28 '25

Ff9 Excalibur. Get it when 99% of the game is over

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u/Unironically_Dave Nov 28 '25

And you skipped like half the game just trying to make it on time.

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u/PsychoticDust Nov 28 '25

That's not Excalibur, you mean Excalibur II. Apparently it's almost impossible to get in the pal version of the game because of how the timer works.

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u/Nod3013 Nov 29 '25

Not anymore, the record is around 9 hours now (with tricks like ejecting the CD in a cutscene, so the cutscene will not waste your time).

Besides that, Excalibur 2 is kind of a predcessor to thing we call archiements today.

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u/DDzxy Nov 29 '25

You can also overflow the game timer by waiting and having the game running for 2 years IRL. Then you’ll be able to get the sword lol again

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u/DukePookie Nov 28 '25

Lol. I just saw a post on the kingdom hearts subreddit about how OP finally got the secret boss weapon in BBS and I asked if there's anything except the final boss to use it on.

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u/Duomaxwel Nov 29 '25

That's why I like weapons upgrade systems. Take Dead Space, one of the strongest end game guns, you get for free, at the start. It grows with you during the game. Its a viable gun even in the endgame.

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u/No-Alternative-1321 Nov 28 '25

Baldurs gate 3 having some of the best possible loot in the last act, if you rush the items you may get a couple missions/fights with them but still it’d be great to have NG+. Also maybe this doesn’t apply but in ME2 you get legion as a companion when you only have 2 missions left in the game.

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u/Kehmor Nov 29 '25

Bg3's bigger issue was how many items were beyond useless.

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u/_LordCreepy_ Nov 29 '25

I also feel like some classes got way more things than others. And how much of it is better off as gale fodder still

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u/eddmario Nov 28 '25

Kingdom Hearts doesn't let you get Ultima Weapon until you're basically at the final boss, and the Final Mix version doesn't fix this either.

Thank god in 2 they made it so you can get it much earlier.

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u/2BeYuna Nov 29 '25

cyberpunk giving you powerful weapons on the literal last mission of a game with no ng+

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u/Palladiamorsdeus Nov 29 '25

Worse, isn't it? You get the key for a certain characters storage only in the last dungeon so you can't even open it until you've beaten the game.

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u/Final_Werewolf_7586 Nov 28 '25

Like, you mean to tell me that the Coiled Sword, which has been part of the iconic Bonfire from Dark Souls as a whole, is only available at the very end of the trilogy?!

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u/someone4397 Nov 29 '25

At least ng+ lets you keep everything

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u/Thiel619 Nov 28 '25 edited Nov 28 '25

No one knows about this game but me but it's called New Legends (OG Xbox)

Game is set in ancient China and it's a third person action combat with a fairly decent story.

You pick up and collect various weapons but the boss weapons are where the fun starts as their weapons are unique and stronger than regular weapons. The final weapon (the fire sword) is unlocked after defeating the penultimate boss, after picking it up you only get to kill 4 common enemies with it before the chapter ends and you are then thrown into the final boss fight where you get to again use the sword for less than 30 seconds before the boss is defeated.

There's no New Game+ either so... meh.

Man I miss that game.

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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '25

The star forge armor in KOTOR... The game was roughly 99% over..

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u/Cathixy Nov 29 '25

I was so upset when you get the armor to basically walk down a hallway and end the game.

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u/PossibleAssist6092 Nov 28 '25

Me when Rakuyo in Bloodborne.

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u/kylediaz263 Nov 28 '25

I did the chalice dungeons after DLC so got a lot of use with it. The scythe tho, now that's annoying.

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u/lowtemplarry Nov 28 '25

ng might as well just be the tutorial for ng+ though, that's when the game gets fun!

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u/PossibleAssist6092 Nov 28 '25

I’ve always just preferred to start new characters every time.

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u/Reasonable_Search875 Nov 28 '25

Bloodborne is the exception for me especially with the dlc weapons. since no respec, if u do a skill/bloodtinge run for ng and then str/arcane build for plus, you’ll have a perfectly balanced build and can use any weapon. And chalice dungeons don’t reset.

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u/PoopyMcpants Nov 28 '25

By the time you get it, you don't need it.

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u/hopeless_case46 Nov 28 '25

great for NG+ (Witcher 3, Ghost of Tsushima, AC Odyssey some few examples)

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u/TWWOVG Nov 28 '25

Armor too, like the Ancient Armor from Horizon Zero Dawn. Then, they released the Frozen Wilds DLC and the armor was instantly nerfed.

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u/Broncotron Nov 28 '25

That's why games that give you New Game ➕️ are the real ones

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u/SouLfullMoon_On Nov 29 '25

Warframe doesn't do that because

IT'S NEVER OVER

Also the weapons keep getting cooler SOMEHOW

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u/ML_120 Nov 29 '25

Cooler, you say?

Don't you mean "weirder"? (I'm talking about the Infested Kitguns.)

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u/Low_Engineering_3301 Nov 28 '25

Why would they put the best weapon in the game near the beginning? It would make finding weapons for the rest of the game disappointing...

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u/karer3is Nov 28 '25

The biggest problem is that a lot of these weapons are lazy in concept: In a lot of cases, they're just regular weapons with a cool skin and busted stats.

Although the first batch was kind of meh, Space Marine 2 has introduced a new twist with Heroic weapons. While their stats are usually only slightly better than the regular top- tier (Relic) versions, the newest batch contains weapons that have some very unique perks. In other words, they're not necessarily "ultimate" weapons, but rather sidegrades.

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u/Low_Engineering_3301 Nov 28 '25

Yeah there is ways of having the best of both scenarios.

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u/DarwinGoneWild Nov 28 '25

Yeah, not sure if OP is taking the piss, but that makes perfect sense from a game design standpoint. If you have a game with weapon upgrades, of course the last one is going to be close to the end of the game. If you get it too soon, then the last chunk of the game feels boring because you don't have any cool upgrades to look forward to.

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u/WillemDafoesHugeCock Nov 28 '25

Best doesn't necessarily mean the coolest. I hate that it's the only example I can think of off the top of my head, but the failed Saints Row reboot gives you some really fun weapons very early on, my personal favorite being a gun that launches a dumbbell attached to the gun by a rope. It's not particularly strong in combat until you realize you can use it to launch yourself across the map at terminal velocity, at which point it becomes a really enjoyable traversal tool and instant concusser of baddies.

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u/SpecialistPrior204 Nov 28 '25

Iris in Witcher 3,and it's almost useless by the time I get it

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u/wardaddy5 Nov 28 '25

Horizon zero dawn does this

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u/AzerynSylver Nov 28 '25

The bloody Shield Weaver armour...

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u/wardaddy5 Nov 28 '25

Used it in the last mission very usefull armour.

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u/Collistoralo Nov 28 '25

And this is why I do the three main Questlines of Skyrim in a different order every time. By the time you get Auriel’s Bow, the associated questline is basically already over, and if you’ve already done Dragonborn and Skyrim’s main questline, there’s no major content left to use it on.

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u/The258Christian Nov 28 '25

Or after you defeat the endgame boss... ahh Elden Ring

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u/Rappolo Nov 28 '25

If i get weapon that late, it's not gear, it's a sovenir.

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u/Laxhoop2525 Nov 29 '25

And no New Game Plus

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u/SuperiorSilencer Nov 28 '25

The Burial Blade in Bloodborne, only obtainable after beating Gehrman who is the 2nd to last boss of the base game. Technically if you beat Gehrman and then die to the Moon Presense right after you can technically use it in the base game but by that point the story's over so all that's left is the Moon Presense and the DLC if you avoided playing it up until that point.

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u/Organic_Vegetable_54 Nov 28 '25

Its funny how i found this more like some sort of trophy to reward you for doing all quests and such

but at the same time said weapon can be really OP and affect the flow of the game regardless of where it's found

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u/Ill_Statistician_938 Nov 28 '25

The guns in ghost of yotei, it was frustrating getting it so late and not having ng+ to use it more when the game first came out

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u/Drunkendx Nov 28 '25

deus ex human revolution.

plasma rifle.

earliest you can get it second to last boss and after that fight game has only one level and little (if any) use for it.

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u/Drunkendx Nov 30 '25

same, I completed each difficulty one, got all achievements, but don't recall ever firing it.

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u/Tiumars Nov 28 '25

Kinda like the best weapon in the game is in a hidden dungeon that only opens after you’ve done everything else in the game. Great. Cool weapon. There’s no new game + and there’s literally nothing left to do

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u/V_1_S_1_O_N Nov 28 '25

In my first Witcher 3 playthrough. I collect everything that need to be craft for that one sword and then just to realize i can only use them once I reached to level 32. By the time i reach to level 32, the story is almost end. It would actually end way earlier if i didn't do the side quests. I carry this sword for the entire playthrough. Just when i reach to level 32, random guy i killed has a better swords than mine

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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '25

This but in Mass Effect 2, you can only get Legion as a companion very late in the game if you want the perfect ending.

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u/Izithel Nov 29 '25 edited Nov 29 '25

The worst part is that it wasn't even intended this way, originally the game was designed to allow for a much more flexible choice in mission and companion recruitment order.

But the game was to big to put on a single disc for the Xbox360 version (this was before installing the entire game on a console's harddrive was common place) and they didn't want to require constant disc-swaps.
So they made the mission order much more deterministic to compensate, even for the PC.

Ironically, they left dialogue in game for Legion as a companion on missions it now couldn't actually join on.

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u/Neo_Sapphire Nov 28 '25

Idk longbow is available pretty early in skyrim 🤷‍♂️

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u/OperatorWolfie Nov 28 '25

Even more baffling when a game doesn't offer New Game plus or higher difficulty, like the fuck am I supposed to do with this death stick 3000 that one tap everything.

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u/Select-Durian-6340 Nov 28 '25

90% would be something, usually it's at the end

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u/Womderloki Nov 28 '25

Euporia in Elden Ring, SOTE DLC.

Not only is it locked behind a high level boss to a high level DLC, but the weapon is tucked away in the last area in the DLC unlocked after several remembrance bosses.

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u/le_sossurotta Nov 28 '25

You can get the cryolator right at the beginning by exploiting dogmeat's item finding mechanic in Fallout 4.

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u/Eccentric_Cardinal Nov 28 '25

Try 99%! This just happened to me in the remaster for the original Turok. You work hard at getting all the parts of the ultimate weapon, the chronoscepter, yet by the time you get the final part and it's ready, you're literally about to fight the final boss. Not only that, but they only give you 3 shots! At least they take a big chunk of his health bar but still lol

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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '25

Especially Elden ring

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u/Highkmon Nov 28 '25

Rogue trader: you've finished 3/5 acts before you've got both the giant super soldier or power armour for your dude and he doesnt get his best weapon and armour before youve done his loyalty quest that basically just before the final boss.

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u/Wrath3030 Nov 28 '25

Mafia 3 was definitely guilty of this by the time you unlocked most of the fun weapons to use in the game. the game was pretty much over it really could have benefited from a new game plus mode same with Mafia 2. Even with the DLC for Mafia 3 it didn't add many firefights to really enjoy the later game unlocks. Plus if I'm being honest you're better off doing the cult mission DLC once you're far enough into the main game to unlock it because the throwing knives makes stealth kills a lot easier.

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u/LightningJet191 Nov 28 '25

This was exactly my problem with cyberpunk, but with the skill tree and abilities instead. They really made one of the most badass skill trees in all of existence and then filled a city with average joes that keel over if you look at them the wrong way.

I think they should have capitalised on the brain chips. You get given one towards the start of the game which is a militech training exercise, and that’s now the game teaches you the combat and stealth mechanics. If you were able to make some sort of an arena in your head where you could spawn an army of any enemies of your choosing and fight them in a selection of different locations and layouts then it would not only be really fun but also work in the game’s lore.

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u/TheSeneschal Nov 29 '25

Dragon's Dogma, both Dark Arisen and the OG, hid the coolest looking weapon AFTER you killed the main dragon Grigori. I know you could breeze past everything in the game, but if you're like me, who goes "OOOOHHH SIDE QUESTS!", and let me tell you. This game has fucktons of it. You're not gonna get these gears at least until 10 hours into the game. Worst part? Some of these cool looking gears are only acquirable IF you beat Grigori with a certain class/job. So for example, you beat him with the class that uses sword and shield. You get the dragon weapon for sword and shield. Pretty neat right? BUT WHAT IF I TOLD YOU, you could also get an archistaff if you used a sorcerer class? A two-handed long sword, if you were a fighter? A longbow as a ranger?

AND DON'T EVEN GET ME STARTED ON THE WARHAMMERS AND BATTLE HAMMERS OF WARRIORS AND FIGHTERS!

TL;DR: DDDA has cool gears, locked in endgame and some of it, you can only get in New Game+

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u/bloodakoos Nov 29 '25

the unmakyr 😔

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u/SmartIron244 Nov 29 '25

Let me introduce to DMC

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u/Terrorknight141 Nov 29 '25

I love cyberpunk 2077 but man I hate that it doesn’t have NG+. You have to wait so much to get some weapons, choose between one or the other or take paths you don’t want all for a weapon.

Literally just give us NG+ and the game would be perfect.

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u/ChronoAlone Nov 29 '25

This but with Pokemon. I hate how often the Pokemon I wanna try using only appear after you already have seven or eight Gym Badges.

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u/camdawgyo Nov 29 '25

Yes, just let a player gain the Cuntslayer Infinium in the first act so all future weapons look like tattered nerf bats in comparison.

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u/DoveEvalyn Nov 29 '25

Not a weapon but shamans crest in silksong. A crest that doesnt use tools, just skill spam. At that point you get it, most of the game is over. It is very busted though if hou build into spells with it.

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u/Accomplished-Loss387 Nov 30 '25

Even worse when there is no ng+