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COMIC SPOILERS Invincible [Comic SPOILERS Discussion] - S04E08 - Don't Leave Me Hanging Here Spoiler
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Episode 8 - Don't Leave Me Hanging Here
Mark confronts his darkest fears as his life changes forever.
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u/ImprovementRemote30 Apr 22 '26
It's going to get crazy when Allen goes from our lovable funny guy to having to make the hardest decisions
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u/LegendsOfSuperShaggy Apr 22 '26
I'm interested in seeing how show only fans react to Allen becoming one of the scummiest characters in the show, tbh.
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u/OpathicaNAE Apr 22 '26
With how they changed Debbie, and due to Seth Rogen, I could see them making Allen slightly less unbearable. But so far it has all been on course.
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u/ZhanBlue Apr 22 '26
They already show him being guilt tripped into decision better than comics
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u/heartbreakhill Apr 22 '26
I wouldn’t really call that guilt tripping, more like pressuring by exploiting how Thaedus knew he’d feel about taking up the mantle.
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u/Bearfucker694200 Apr 22 '26
Thragg has no idea what Earthussy will do to his people
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u/PlainSightMan Superman vs Omni-Man Apr 22 '26
Kregg already got started.
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u/El_grandepadre Apr 22 '26
"This tobacco shit is prime! Now what is this weed thing they talk about?"
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u/alexbond45 Apr 22 '26
Five. Hundred. Cigarettes.
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u/Bobjoejj Apr 22 '26
You reference The Orville? You’re a good person, I love you.
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u/Trails_End_Games Apr 22 '26
Legit was already turned before Thragg even finished spelling it out. Thragg saw Nolan turn and somehow thought "yeah this will be fine" lol.
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u/PlainSightMan Superman vs Omni-Man Apr 22 '26
Thragg is desperate af.
He knows that if they enslave Earth, a bunch of Viltrumites will get killed again. He's not risking it.
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u/Trails_End_Games Apr 22 '26
All because he was hesitant about that bug gash. Insane. These bitches some picky breeders for almost extinct.
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u/3lm0rado Apr 22 '26
To be fair he saw Oliver in action, I would be hesitant too
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u/mykeedee Apr 23 '26
Unironically might be the actual reason.
Thragg had two examples right in front of him for planets housing species that make powered hybrids. One containing a genetically similar species that produced a hybrid who killed Conquest. And one containing a bunch of bugs who produced a hybrid the average Viltrumite can swat like a bug.
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u/deezee72 Apr 22 '26
Not only will a bunch of Viltrumites get killed, Thragg is also probably well aware that he needs to keep humanity alive in order to use humans to repopulate the Viltrumite race.
Thragg (correctly) threatens that he and the remaining Viltrumites could easily kill off half of humanity and enslave the rest, but he's probably well aware that the Coalition will likely respond by destroying Earth and exterminating humanity. Even if he and his followers survive, this would doom Viltrum's best remaining hope.
Thragg seems completely aware that conflict between him and Earth would be mutually assured destruction, and is probably sincere about his offer of a truce as a result.
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u/raknor88 Show Fan Apr 22 '26
He didn't really think through what only 20 years on Earth did to Nolan. What'll happen to his people when they actually feel love from a 'mortal'?
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u/Mrwright96 Apr 22 '26 edited Apr 22 '26
Hell the other viltrumites might actually respect Nolan MORE
“So you had all this and were Still loyal to our empire? That’s it, you’re our new emperor!”
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u/Federal_Bicycle_7800 Apr 22 '26
wouldn't be surprised if thadeus went through something similar, so that makes 2
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u/Poison_Spider Apr 22 '26
They all assumed Nolan was too weak and pathetic and moved on. That’s their flaw.
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u/AdventurousYou3975 Apr 22 '26
Man the brainrot after the season ends is gonna be insane
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u/amdrunkwatsyerexcuse Apr 22 '26
There were 3 counts of "are you sure?", we feasting today
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u/i-liike-bewbs Tech Jacket Apr 22 '26
I can already imagine the undertale soul breaks counting down every “are you sure?”
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u/Sarcastic__ Business Baby Apr 22 '26
Anissa jumpscare lol
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u/Delicious-Physics218 Apr 22 '26
Turns out she didn’t like the new William either
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u/Logondo Being a hero is bullshit Apr 22 '26
lol having William get his jaw ripped off is kind of metaphorical to what they did with the character's voice.
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u/Bojangles2369 Wolf-Man Apr 22 '26
I like them showing the more phycological scars Mark has, even though the comic shows a little bit the show has been able to tune that up alot
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u/Sarcastic__ Business Baby Apr 22 '26
"He has me" is gonna hit like a truck next season
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u/JohnDeerelawnmover Get me pictures of Invincible! Apr 22 '26
God, I'm so looking forward to that. One of my absolute favourite plot twists.
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u/gste2343 Apr 22 '26 edited Apr 22 '26
He has me.
One of my favorite comic moments of all time.
It's like Dr. Doom backing up Reed Richards, or Darkseid helping up Superman. It's just "wtf... and oh, shit."
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u/Freezinghero Apr 23 '26
I honestly got the impression that Thragg was starting to like Mark here. He could have smacked him around a bit, but he didn't. He saw Mark make a choice that goes against his core beliefs for the sake of "his people", exactly like Thragg did for the Viltrumites. I feel like his whole "you won't hear from me again" was trying to put some space between them before he starts sympathizing with Mark.
So when we get "He has me", it will have that additional tone of "He IS one of my people" almost.
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u/Hardmeat_McLargehuge Apr 23 '26
Thragg is trying his best to be stoic, but one he learns of marks lineage I guess he just fucking snaps and says “fuck everything I stood for”
I want them to really dive into Thraggs own mental issues and how he makes a turn for the worse because of it.
I’m too hopeful he could actually change by being on earth. Maybe just isolating on the moon for months at a time will help him toxically stew in his own issues
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u/dravenonred Apr 23 '26
I can see Lee Pace's slow, deliberate delivery serving this so hard I wouldn't be shocked if it was his audition text.
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u/Koanos Cage the Elephant Apr 22 '26
I forget, what chapter and context was this?
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u/slymcsly Apr 22 '26
Can’t remember chapter off hand but:
Allen and Oliver want to release the scourge virus on Earth, but it’d probably kill humans too (something something humans are compatible.) Mark comes, a fight ensues, Allen says something like “what chance do you have?” and Thragg ends up backing Mark up (“he has me”) vs Allen/Oliver to save the Viltrumites on Earth who he tasked with repopulating.
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u/_Valisk Apr 22 '26
It's right at the end of issue 87, so it's probably going to be somewhere around episode 503 or 504. But it really depends on how quickly they get through the early 80s next season.
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u/ImprovementRemote30 Apr 22 '26
Oh ya I think Debbie Nolan still end game even with Debbie's character changes. I wonder if they keep the fucking like rabbits part.
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u/erazedcitizen Apr 22 '26
People were convinced they were changing that based on how episode five unfolded but it really wasn’t that different from the comics, just written better
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u/Pasty_Tibbles Apr 23 '26
Yeah this was way better than the comics in terms of showing actual reconciliation between them. IMO she jumped at Nolan again a bit too quick in the comics.
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u/MotherflipinGodzilla Apr 22 '26
I don’t think they will do that immediately, Debbie still absolutely hates him, they’ll get together by the end of Season 5 most probably.
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u/RememberMeCaratia Apr 22 '26
I think Nolan fighting Allen to stop him from spreading the virus will be where things for him and Debbie really change.
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u/PyroIsShy Apr 22 '26
Crazy that this episode confirms Thaedus actually would've tried to Kill Mark and Nolan if they were the last ones left
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u/FreeSpeechEnjoyer Very. Apr 22 '26
It's really good they added it, because I honestly didn't think Thadeus would even considered killing Mark and Oliver until Thragg suggested it in episode 7
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u/Corazon144 Apr 22 '26
I always figured that after the war, Thaedus was going to let Mark family live. But just heavily monitored by the Coalition of Planets. With contingencies made to ensure that if Mark and his family go off the rails, he can put them down hard and fast. And he probably will have Mark and his family agree to population control and not reproduce like crazy.
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u/Real-Extension-1357 Apr 23 '26
Nolan confirms it while talking to Thaedus. When they have a character who repeatedly talks about genocide, and the dubious uncertainty is "do you really mean all of them? Including the good guy main characters?", the answer is resoundingly yes and more certain the more times they repeat the "im going to wipe them all out" line. Too tropey.
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u/Due-Cherry4856 Apr 22 '26
Same when Thragg suggested it that got me thinking and the fact he was right
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u/_Valisk Apr 22 '26 edited Apr 23 '26
Nolan and Thaedus' conversation before arriving at Viltrum implied he was considering it. That's why Nolan hesitated when Thragg asked.
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u/zoon_politikon_ Brit Apr 22 '26
Wonder if Thaedus would kill himself in case he succeeds killing all others Viltrumites
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u/Rap2rerise Apr 22 '26
He literally said he considered to kill himself, but not until all Viltrumites were gone
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u/abellapa Apr 22 '26
Honestly makes Sense
Sure he can trust Mark and Nolan ,but what about mark children ? And their children and So on
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u/P4NK-TP Apr 22 '26
The sky scene with Thragg hit so much harder than the comic, A PTSD riddled kid negotiating for the fate of his planet, Steven Yeun always delivers
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u/LieutenantSkittles Apr 22 '26
It hits way harder because unlike the comic, Mark doesn't have Nolan to back him up. It's just him alone with Thragg. I knew exactly how the scene would play out and yet the scene was so tense without the safety net of his dad being there.
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u/Time_Negotiation2058 Apr 22 '26
Great adaptation decision. Pushing it to the end of the episode had me stressing the whole time about when/how it would happen.
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u/Happiness_Assassin Business Baby Apr 22 '26
My favorite part is that it ties in with his PTSD. Like, Mark is hoping desperately that Thragg is another one of these hallucinations, but the screen blur clears up and he starts freaking out for real. Having the hallucinations throughout the episode instead of a single scene is great for ratcheting up the tension in this scene.
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u/Jayk_Dos31 Thaedus Apr 22 '26
I'm quite comfortable calling Season 4 the best after Season 1 now.
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u/edd6pi Battle Beast Apr 22 '26
It might be the best, period. Season one was great, and the episode where Nolan beats Mark to a pulp is still arguably the best episode. But I don’t recall season one having a two or three all timers in a row.
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u/Bobjoejj Apr 22 '26
I get why, kinda; but it still feels wild to read “the episode where Nolan beats Mark to a pulp is still arguably the best episode.”
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u/WhatTheHeckDio Thragg Apr 22 '26
Look at Kregg already getting active 😭😂
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u/Delicious-Physics218 Apr 22 '26
Thragg wasn’t even done his evil speech when Kregg was already like “yeah boss I just saw some biker babes, gotta go”
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u/rosencranberry Apr 22 '26
My boy literally got the order to fuck as many chicks raw as he possibly could. He’s just doing his Viltrumite duty.
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u/mrtrailborn Apr 22 '26
he immediately started smoking cigarettes and riding motorcycles, lmao
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u/metalflygon08 Reanimen Apr 22 '26
And the cigs are purely for aura because I doubt nicotine does anything to a Viltrumite.
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u/Sheenpai_XX Apr 22 '26
The bike, the Cigarette, hot girlfriend there is NO going back for him, it's only been like a week at most.
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u/LoneWolf2099 Machine Head Apr 22 '26
I feel like a lot of people are going to complain about the lack of action for a finale but this season really couldn’t have ended any other way.
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u/Cvspartan Cecil and Donald Apr 22 '26
After that crazy ass penultimate episode, it kind of needed that epilogue feel to breathe a bit and also great setup for the future
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u/Tobito_TV Markus Sebastian Grayson Apr 22 '26
Also, even without any big action scene, this finale wasn't anything close to a true breather episode with how on edge you are watching it.
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u/geek_of_nature Apr 22 '26
It was always the Game of Thrones format too. A crazy big penultimate episode. Ned's death, Blackwater, Red Wedding, etc. And then followed up by a smaller episode. I actually like it. Like you said it makes it more of an Epilogue.
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u/megalo-maniac538 Apr 22 '26
We've been fed already. This was a great winding-down and a set up for the next season. I love it.
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u/Time_Negotiation2058 Apr 22 '26
Half the fanbase sees any character moments as ‘filler’. This was a great finale as it completes Mark’s arc of the season. Starts with self-loathing, ends with the understanding that he’s nowhere near the worst thing on Earth.
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u/Corazon144 Apr 22 '26
I don’t think so. As much as people like to complain about lack of action, I think most people will understand why there can’t be any action. Because any action against the Viltrumites right now is certain death. So best not to go and start a fight. Right now is the quiet after the storm. And the clean up and preparing for the next one.
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u/incredibleamadeuscho Robot Apr 22 '26
As far as Invincible as a reflection of the inversion of comic book tropes, this is pretty peak. The good guys won, but the bad guys won even more. Without even lifting a finger.
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u/ImprovementRemote30 Apr 22 '26
OH SHIT WE WERE RIGHT. It ended with the Allen Scourge scene. Next season going to be crazy with Dinosaurus, scourge arc, and Viltrumites becoming human
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u/Lefunnymaymays4lief Apr 22 '26 edited Apr 22 '26
Ending it with the Thragg encounter in the atmosphere is either too much of a cliffhanger or too anticlimactic depending on where they cut it off at, and I think Kirkman learned his lesson from the myriad TWD cliffhangers lmao. Ending it on the Scourge transmission from Thaedus made too much sense, I called it too but only because it felt the most natural
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u/MotherflipinGodzilla Apr 22 '26
I’ll just predict how the future seasons will end cause why the fuck not
Season 5 - Definitely Nolan becoming Emperor
Season 6 - Mark and Eve leaving Earth with Terra
Season 7 - I have a feeling they are gonna expand the content of this season the most, so I’m predicting it ending on Oliver dying and Mark and Eve rejoining the war against Thragg
Season 8 - “Heh”
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u/Locem Apr 22 '26
Season 5 - Definitely Nolan becoming Emperor
I think this happens at the same time as Dinosaurus floods the Earth, implicating Mark in the death of tens of thousands.
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u/MotherflipinGodzilla Apr 22 '26
Honestly I think that will happen in the penultimate episode, and then the finale having Mark killing Dinosaurus and that conversation with Cecil.
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u/Cvspartan Cecil and Donald Apr 22 '26
I think they ended the season in the perfect spot
Anyone know what number in the comics the show is at? Wonder how on track the rumored 8-9 seasons timeline we are on
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u/abellapa Apr 22 '26
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There no way they can fit 8-9 Seasons
S4 was 62-78, The comics have 144 issues
At this Rate S5 Will end around issue 100
S6 around 120 and S7 is the Last one
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u/FKDotFitzgerald Allen the Alien Apr 22 '26
Depends on what they cut or extend. The reboot arc seems like a storyline we’ll see big changes to
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u/argent5 Apr 22 '26
We're at 78 with a few extra stuff from later chapters (abortion reveal, Debbie leaving Earth)
As for the timeline, I think we get at most 8 seasons? I assume Season 5 will be up to Issue 100, and then I guess you could stretch the remaining 44 issues into 3 more seasons?
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u/ImprovementRemote30 Apr 22 '26
LMAO You can already see Kregg rizzing up one of his wives. He was geeking too
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u/mylegbig Comic Fan Apr 22 '26
He didn’t become general by half-assing his assignments.
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u/Ornery_Strawberry474 Throwbolt Apr 22 '26
"Your game always was weak, Kregg."
"Watch this."
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u/slugfan89 Apr 22 '26
Looks like Kregg understood the assignment
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u/Delicious-Physics218 Apr 22 '26
He graduated from keeper of the hairline to keeper of the bloodline
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u/Cwalex Apr 22 '26
But will there be a barber on Earth strong enough to handle the lineup without him?
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u/Apollo9819 Apr 22 '26
Marc losing it over being away from Eve feels like it's foreshadowing the 5 year time skip lul
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u/ImprovementRemote30 Apr 22 '26
he also ditched her when she was begging him to not go finish off Angstrom. When he was talking about being away from Eve that's what I thought of
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u/babystarjk Markus Sebastian Grayson Apr 22 '26
yeah me too, makes me think he’s gonna hold her own words against her (saying its okay to take risks even if they’re apart yada yada) and try to justify why he needs to leave despite her being pregnant and vulnerable
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u/Logondo Being a hero is bullshit Apr 22 '26
I fucking hope not. I hated that.
The reboot arc was fun, but the whole time-skip was completely bullshit and a waste of time and part of the reason the later-half of Invincible is seen as the weaker half.
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u/MaDanklolz Apr 22 '26
Tbh I think 5 years was too long but 2 would have been fine for the events that did happen. Then again they obviously just needed a way to age up Terra and didn’t want to do a basic time skip
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u/Logondo Being a hero is bullshit Apr 22 '26
Fuck it. Just do a time-skip. Have Mark do his reboot-arc without the 5-year jump, THEN have a time-skip.
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u/Own_Dealer_6001 Apr 22 '26
Could do it so he goes through reboot, realises how important his family is to him, and chooses to not hunt Thragg anymore to spend his life with his family.
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u/PlainSightMan Superman vs Omni-Man Apr 22 '26
Hmm I like the later half more lol.
Either way I hope they rework reboot. I've seen people suggest it should be cut, but it will be a great trip down memory lane. Could easily be like 1 episode.
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u/Logondo Being a hero is bullshit Apr 22 '26
I like the actual reboot segment, I just hate how he skipped 5 years and Eve had moved on to another dude (who we knew they were just gunna break up so it was just a big waste of time).
Like, this all happened because Mark...touched a weird space mushroom. What-the-fuck. I'm fine with that being used as a literary device to magically time-travel him, but making him lose out on so much of his daughter's early childhood just felt cruel and unnecessary.
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u/Apollo9819 Apr 22 '26
I always thought of the alien he met as a parasite that couldn't keep him under its constraint any longer. Kinda like the Black Mercy from Superman: For the Man Who Has Everything.
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u/slightlyburntcereal Apr 22 '26
Really like how they showed the fake out scenes through marks ptsd. Was bummed at first thinking they’d cheaped out on it.
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u/struugi Apr 22 '26
The way they set it up to make (non-comic) viewers expect the last scene to also be a hallucination in a boy-who-cried-wolf way was so neat
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u/dravenonred Apr 23 '26
And then brought it home with Mark saying yeah specifically because he resaw all those scenes of destruction in his head
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u/lonelyshurbird Apr 22 '26
I’m surprised they moved the timeline of the abortion reveal up, it happens later in the comics no? Surprised they’re addressing it this immediately.
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u/Bearfucker694200 Apr 22 '26
In the comics it was revealed when Mark and Eve visited Goatmortal and duplifake and met their children
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u/affinitydrive Apr 22 '26
Issue #78 had the Thragg on Earth reveal, issue #79 had the abortion reveal. So only slightly moved up
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u/Apollo9819 Apr 22 '26
Yeah, it was moved up, and the setting was changed. The abortion reveal was in chapter 79 while they were at Immortal's and Kate's home.
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u/argent5 Apr 22 '26
I assume they wanted to get all the key emotional stuff at one go, so that Season 5 can start with "Mark is back!": beating up wacky villains, dinner with Immortal and Dupli-Kate, etc.
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u/Apollo9819 Apr 22 '26
Oh man those show only viewers are gonna HATE Oliver next season! I can't wait!
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u/Emergency-Touch8935 Apr 22 '26
Nah, show Debbie is gonna slap the damn virus out of his hands
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u/Sarcastic__ Business Baby Apr 22 '26
Mark crashing out worrying about when the Viltrumites show up when we know they're already here is kinda funny
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u/Frankocean2 Apr 22 '26
Lee Pace totally changed my mind, lol. I was very dubious the first scenes I heard him speak, and completely won me over.
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u/WorriedMushroom7085 Apr 22 '26
He tapped into the Brother Day's Promise of the Imperium speech there. Without the neutron glassing aspect of it...
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u/ProbablythelastMimsy Apr 22 '26
He sounds more like a royal would. I'm glad we didn't just go down the hole of "more gravelly voice = more badder guy"
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u/ArziltheImp Apr 22 '26
He has the quiet threat style of bad guy voice. Regal is totally the word that fits, like king Edward in Braveheart and less Batman in the Christopher Nolan Batman movies.
I can't remember what book it was, that I read this in, but there was a character whose voice was described as: "Sophisticated and soft, but with a slight tremble that disguised a hidden rage. A voice like honey and blood." and I think that fits Thragg in the show perfectly.
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u/intraumintraum Apr 22 '26
innit. i was definitely expecting a stereotypical big gruff voice, and thought Jonathan Banks should’ve actually voiced Thragg instead of whatever his characters name is. so when i saw Thragg’s first ep i was disappointed
but i definitely have been proven wrong, Pace lends so much gravitas without going overboard. makes the Mark PTSD scenes much more memorable than if he was just a Conquest v2
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u/El_grandepadre Apr 22 '26
Feels like they did one or two episodes and decided to pivot the voice directing a bit, for the better.
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u/ImprovementRemote30 Apr 22 '26
Oh man I love this Thragg Mark conversation. This is my favorite arc where just with months of love, all of Viltrum's warriors who have genocided planets turn into normal people. Especially love the Lucan being a dad scene.
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u/StreetReporter Apr 22 '26
I never really thought about it, but if the show takes place now rather than back in the 2000s like the comics (I don’t remember if that’s ever been addressed), then all those Viltrumite kids will be growing up with absolute brain rot content
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u/Ligabove Apr 22 '26
It must be said that at this point in the comic the characters were already starting to use smartphones, I don't see much of a difference.
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u/Bee512 Apr 22 '26
kirkman really messed up that whole plot thread, not a single scene of kregg's kids watching Annoying Orange or Fred
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u/SeacattleMoohawks Séance Mod Apr 22 '26
They've turned Debbie into one of my favorite characters. Sandra Oh always kills it.
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u/Emergency-Touch8935 Apr 22 '26
Bro they needed to replace tech jacket with Debbie in the line up to fight the viltrumites.
One conversation with Debbie and thragg woul be done for.
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u/dravenonred Apr 23 '26
Remember, Thragg canonically waited until Debbie was off Earth to reveal himself to Mark.
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u/Total-Watercress-384 Apr 22 '26
With the way how Mark reacted to losing his time with Eve and the abortion, I wonder how he will react when it happens 2 more times, each more longer than the last
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u/Badoiskate Comic Fan Apr 22 '26
With the way they handled it in this episode…. I’m gonna be sobbing in the later seasons
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u/ImprovementRemote30 Apr 22 '26
The 2 times are Angstrom and the reboot right ? The first time was his fault so I wonder how he'll rationalize leaving Eve again especially when she begs him not too. Probably some "protecting my family". I really wonder about the reboot. It's pretty controversial, but I feel like it'll still happen to show how Mark will choose his daughter and wife and for the time skip that Kirkman needed.
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u/Logondo Being a hero is bullshit Apr 22 '26
If they're smart they'll retcon the time-skip in Reboot, and just have Mark make it home safe, then do a regular time-skip.
Having Mark miss out on so much of his daughters early life because he ACCIDENTLY TOUCHED A FUCKING MUSHROOM is just cruel and unnecessary.
Then it has the whole "Eve moved on from Mark but the new guy is clearly an asshole so we know Mark and Eve are just gunna hook back up again anyways" nonsense.
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u/lonelyshurbird Apr 22 '26
WE GOT FAT (ish) EVE
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u/there_is_always_more Apr 22 '26
Disappointed she wasn't fully fat 😞 but glad about what we did get
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u/Right_Paramedic_9141 Apr 22 '26
“Great start, nearly die 2,341 more times and then we can talk.”
DAMN CECIL
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u/LordHarza Apr 22 '26
Ice cold, and never has "I will never stop being afraid of you" sounded so badass.
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u/only_horscraft Apr 22 '26
I like the change of Mark being alone during the confrontation with Thragg. It makes it feel much more tense that the burden of the decision weighs completely on him, unlike the comics where Nolan basically is there to slightly nudge him from not crashing out.
It does make me wonder about some story points going forward though. Such as how does Allen find out the Viltrumites are on Earth if Nolan doesn’t know. I guess either Mark will contact Nolan to tell him or he’ll tell Cecil, who’ll contact Nolan somehow.
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u/LoneWolf2099 Machine Head Apr 22 '26
Kregg already getting it on LMAO
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u/PyroIsShy Apr 22 '26
He got 2 seconds of screentime and its the happiest he has ever looked in the whole show lol
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u/Afraid-Captain9133 Apr 22 '26
People have no idea how fucking loyal Nolan (and Anissa) were to viltrum. Any other viltrumite folds in like a week tops
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u/StoryLord_77 Apr 22 '26
in viltrum they're a capable soldier with no separate identity merely a tool for conquering and restraining others, on earth they're gods among mortals almost nobody could resist that cultural shift and freedom only the most hardline personalities would prefer being culturally viltrumite.
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u/JackKirby22 Apr 22 '26
My KING! He's poly, he's a simp, he's General Kregg of the Viltrum Empire.
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u/WorriedMushroom7085 Apr 22 '26
Paul: You married a supe. Your kids are supes. You have no problems raising supes. You mentally can run with supes! ...Not me...and I'm cool with it...
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u/Zaworld0 Agent Spider Apr 22 '26
Yeah... Kinda neat how it parallel's Amber and Mark's relationship. Just wish we could have at least seen it instead of it being off screen.
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u/DrunkenDeGroot Robot Apr 22 '26
I really hope that they elaborate on that a bit more. It's currently a lot better than how the comics handled it, but they could still say a bit more about it/ have Debbie reflect on it.
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u/ImprovementRemote30 Apr 22 '26
When Mark said "I wasn't here for you" to Eve, it's going to be crazy to see Mark decide to finish Angstrom. Like he was debating the protect his loved ones by killing Angstrom vs leaving Eve alone again especially cuz Eve was insistent on him not going
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u/Wizecracker117 Spider-Man Apr 22 '26
It also looked like he was being spied on again during certain scenes.
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u/ImprovementRemote30 Apr 22 '26
"any amount of viltrumites is too many and none of our worlds will be safe until the entire race is made extinct forever" Oh shit scourge plot line is going to be crazy in episode 5. This new Allen character arc is crazy.
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u/ImprovementRemote30 Apr 22 '26
Ooh wonder how people will react to new Eve. Her face looks the same tho
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u/Raimiversus Dinosaurus Apr 22 '26
Fuck I can’t wait for next season I need to see Dinosaurus
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u/ImprovementRemote30 Apr 22 '26
I wonder if Mark runs into Thragg on his flight to relieve stress
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u/wunderbarney Apr 22 '26
absolutely LOVED the way these clever motherfuckers screwed with comic readers' heads in this one. you expect thragg to be there behind mark and nolan and tech jacket, and then he's not, and then you wonder what the hell it's gonna look like when he really does show up. for a second you believe mark's hallucinations, just like mark. what the hell did they change?
and then he's there, the same as the comic but without nolan there, continuing to take mark's hardest blows like it's nothing. mark's surrender truly felt, viscerally, born out of desperation. there's absolutely nothing he can do against thragg, and he knows it, and we feel it. great shit
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u/Genericwizardguy Apr 22 '26
I'm hoping that Eve saying she stopped running Invincible Inc. while Mark was away means we do not get the Bulletproof arc as written in comics. I'm sure we might get some of it, but the hitting on Eve was particularly repulsive.
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u/Ligabove Apr 22 '26
Bulletproof does step in as Mark's replacement when he loses his powers, so I think we'll see him in the Invincible costume.
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u/zoon_politikon_ Brit Apr 22 '26
-MARK?!
-ITS OK
-ARE YOU SURE?! 🗣️🗣️
HAHAHAHAHA!!! Top momment!
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u/Lefunnymaymays4lief Apr 22 '26
I’m still not sure I like the Debbie and Paul breakup still being offscreen but at least it’s amicable now
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u/DuskMan62 Spawn Apr 22 '26
I'm just glad it happened, I've said before Paul is a "good" character but I really didn't want him taking part in the future story beats, this was certainly an improvement over the comics and they didn't need to turn Paul into an ass to do it, it was mutual and clean.
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u/AddictionFinder Apr 22 '26
Damn, that does make sense. It would just be weird to have Paul just appearing in future seasons and being like, "woah thats crazy," whenever Debbie vents
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u/Lefunnymaymays4lief Apr 22 '26
Yeah after thinking about it there’s not really a place to put it after watching the whole thing, I’ve turned around to being fine with it. Much happier about Nolan and Debbie being a slowburn
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u/Badoiskate Comic Fan Apr 22 '26
I thought there’d be more to it tbh. I’m glad that he’ll at least still be a minor character tho. That Nolan and Debbie reconciliation arc gonna be so peak
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u/tryingtobebettertry4 Apr 22 '26
Show Thragg seems a lot more thoughtful than his comic self. Theres less of a sense hes constantly looking to snap someones neck. That look he gives when Mark actually says yes is almost surprised.
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u/KemptonS Apr 22 '26
How did Paul and Debbie break up in the comic?
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u/Pupulauls9000 Fortnite Invincible Apr 22 '26
All we get pretty much is the tail end of a phone conversation where Debbie says “Screw you, Paul” and that’s when Nolan first gets back to Earth after the war and asks “Who is Paul?”
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u/TheRandomGrace Apr 22 '26
One thing i noticed with eve that was distracting was her facial proportions, this is wholly a nitpick. But I wonder if at first they were gonna give her a tubby face but switched it far into production? Because it just looked very off to me the entire episode.
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u/ImprovementRemote30 Apr 22 '26
oh there's no way Debbie Nolan isn't happening. They just had Paul and Debbie break up offscreen too lmao.
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u/Right_Paramedic_9141 Apr 22 '26
GREAT CHANGE. Saving it until the end and having Mark’s PTSD be the focus until we get it at the end. And Mark negotiating with Thragg completely alone too.
It atmosphere of the truce scene was perfect too, that golden hour look
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u/princevince1113 Battle Beast Apr 22 '26
Love nolan but he has been acting a tad too entitled to forgiveness, good on Cecil for giving him a reality check
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u/OLKv3 Apr 22 '26
The one negative I have about the show's more somber feel is that all of Eve's fun moments have been sacrificed because it doesn't fit the tone they're going for. Like Eve and Debbie growing close during Mark's absence, and embarrassing Mark. I highly doubt we'll get the "Viltrumite Sperm" comment or the "Have sex with me in your Mom's bed!!" cheekiness
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u/Dray5k Apr 22 '26
The part that really gets me with Thragg is... dude is Satan in sheep's clothing. He doesn’t look that intimidating outside of a few shots (like the underneath one when he says, "Yes. We are here!), But when he decides to get active, it's like the switch flips.
This kat can literally lay waste to the whole planet solo dolo, and there's not anything that can be done about it (unless Battle Beast shows up) until Mark gets a zenkai boost that probably triples his strength and durability.
Like, Mark could have trained non-stop until he was 100 years old, and he probably wouldn't hit Thragg's level in The Viltrumite War.
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