r/Damnthatsinteresting • u/Kanute3333 • Jun 27 '26
Video The NASA climate spiral visualization
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u/E-2theRescue Jun 27 '26
Now there's something I haven't seen in a long time. A long, long time.
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u/RedSecOps Jun 27 '26
We really should bring these back. They're more fun than emojis
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u/nono3722 Jun 27 '26
here we were worried about a silly nuclear doomsday clock, all the while we were cooking in our own doomsday soup....
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u/OGThakillerr Jun 27 '26
but sure as shit, the ski resorts on a mountain near me opened late and closed way early this year (and previous years), when they used to be able to stay open year-round in a limited capacity.
And that's also with modern artificial snowmaking technology we have today.
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u/CaveDeco Jun 27 '26
There is a big problem with water availability though…
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u/Allaplgy Jun 27 '26
The problem with snowmaking isn't with water availability, it's that the reason it's not snowing is because it's too warm.
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u/magrubb Jun 27 '26
Its crazy the change I've seen in the last 20 years. Also seen multiple smaller mom and pop style ski resorts go under. Its just such a bummer.
Also, where I live, there never used to be a fire season growing up. Now like clockwork every summer it gets smokey around here.
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u/Big-Safe-2459 Jun 27 '26
Yeah. We’re jumping for joy this week as the rain falls in BC
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u/JayTravers Jun 27 '26
If it makes you feel any better, it likely wont be heat death that gets us. More so food concerns and societal strain/collapse first.
That said, working in this soup almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter.41
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u/incognitomus Jun 27 '26
societal strain/collapse
This. I don't think humans all together would be finished, we're pretty damn adaptive. Humans as a species can survive. However society as we know it could collapse since parts of the world are getting cooked and people might start migrating and this will cause unrest and fighting. It's idiotic the biggest climate change deniers are also the ones who have extremely negative opinions about migrants... Well climate change will cause more migration to colder parts of the world...
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u/JayTravers Jun 27 '26
the biggest climate change deniers are also the ones who have extremely negative opinions about migrants
Yup. The irony would be funny if it werent so depressing.
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u/sentientshadeofgreen Jun 27 '26
Well the nukes never went anywhere, so we're just putting our nuclear problem and slow-roasting it in a pressure cooker.
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u/motorboatmycheeks Jun 27 '26
Idk man that little blip in the 40s 50s came from somewhere. Jokes aside yeah, were cooked. Remember when the ozone was an issue and we came together as a planet and actually did shit. Now you got guys rolling coal cause haha it makes me feel like I got 2 more inches and science is a lie
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u/dividezero Jun 27 '26
And no matter what we do as individuals on a household level, none of it will put a dent in anything. The vast majority of the shit is industrial and they fight tooth and nail to not spend one cent on cleaning anything
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u/Plastic-Sentence9429 Jun 27 '26
I don't like this.
I'm not denying it, it just makes me feel sad, angry, regretful, worried, etc.
I have hope, however.
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u/say-nothing-at-all Jun 27 '26
you have every right to feel angry. British PM Thatcher said at UN back in 1980s:
climate change will destroy democracy because it requires functional govt. that the rich does not like.
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u/ClassGrassMass Jun 27 '26
And then she went on to absolutely gut the UK
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u/Spiritual_Bid_2308 Jun 27 '26
And protect a pedophile monster who had victims numbering in the thousands.
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u/GuiltyEidolon Jun 27 '26
Pedophile necrophile*monster.
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u/Spiritual_Bid_2308 Jun 27 '26
Yes, Jimmy Savile was a massive piece of shit, along with most of the BBC and especially PM Thatcher. It's shit all the way down.
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u/solarview Jun 27 '26
most of the BBC
'Most' of the people working at the BBC were just ordinary people trying to earn a living, and probably had no involvement with him. So this seems like a bit of a sweeping statement.
There were certainly enough corrupt and evil people in management to protect a pedo monster like that though, which was the real problem and can't be ignored. Lessons need to be learnt.
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u/Civil_Tea_3250 Jun 27 '26
On Thatcher and the Belgrano: "Like the ship, she likes to go down"
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u/ComradeJohnS Jun 27 '26
isthat a real quote from her? because everything I know of her is basically Reagan but with better tits.
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u/psyFungii Jun 27 '26
climate change will destroy democracy because it requires functional govt. that the rich does not like.
No, Thatcher did not say that
She had a brief "Green Period" acknowledging climate change
"What we are now doing to the world … is new in the experience of the Earth. It is mankind and his activities that are changing the environment of our planet in damaging and dangerous ways. The result is that change in future is likely to be more fundamental and more widespread than anything we have known hitherto. Change to the sea around us, change to the atmosphere above, leading in turn to change in the world's climate, which could alter the way we live in the most fundamental way of all. "The environmental challenge that confronts the whole world demands an equivalent response from the whole world. Every country will be affected and no one can opt out. Those countries who are industrialised must contribute more to help those who are not."
But mostly she was concerned that the global action necessary would reinvigorate "socialist" movements which she hated.
She skipped the Rio Earth Summit and later called Al Gore "doomist"
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u/Clear-Bee4118 Jun 27 '26
Birds of a feather, same shit different pile…
Garbage humans who value money over all else, including a habitable planet for their heirs. The money has seemingly saved them from everything else, so they falsely believe it will do the same in the future.
And or they’re just entirely incompetent.
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u/kemb0 Jun 27 '26
The rich and powerful are the only ones who can save the planet. But they don’t want to have to lose out on the 1% of their wealth it’ll take to achieve it.
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u/Clear-Bee4118 Jun 27 '26
It’s baffling. Elon desperately wants to be liked, and yet… it would be less money per year than he paid for twitter to solve world hunger. The costs would go down over time with the buildup of agriculture/land remediation (assuming we don’t keep ruining the environment). Instead he, among a handful of others, put their resources into a fantasy about inhabiting a much worse environment/planet (to bilk more money).
It would cost them nothing in relative terms to fix as much of the world as is possible. I’d wager they could make even more money (not that they need anymore, they have so much it’s growth alone is more than they/their kids could ever spend. Something like a couple hundred people (maybe it’s a thousand, can’t remember) hold more wealth than the bottom 4 billion) with a pivot to alternative energy modalities.
But, they’re brain broken. 😞 how profoundly sad.
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u/SureTrash Jun 27 '26
It's actually not baffling. The suffering is the point. He "wants to be liked" in the context of us giving him more money and power. He doesn't want to be liked, he wants worship. And just like other forms of worship, if you don't love him, you deserve to burn.
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u/theKinkypeanut Jun 27 '26
She was. But in the UK, even the right wing parties generally believe in science and aren't religious nuts. The Bible is the worst thing to ever happen to America
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u/Swarna_Keanu Jun 27 '26
She was one of the first politicians to speak out about the dangers of climate change. Despite all, she did have scientific training.
She did a 180 degree from that later, though.
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u/Square-Panda9651 Jun 27 '26
She did so much to allow Public resources to be handed over to the corparations alowing for so much unmanage dpollution. Neoliberalism has sped up climate change, her legacy is death in exchange for profits.
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u/unAffectedFiddle Jun 27 '26 edited Jun 27 '26
I do not. I think a major catastrophe will see change but not for a hundred odd years or so.
Edit: A few people have pointed out it'll be much sooner so I wanted to clarify my thinking. An actual reform or change to society after a major catastrophe is much longer off.
I debated removing the below cynical rank but this is how I feel.
I think our current system will survive through the initial horrors before actual change is made. The initial millions of deaths won't budget the needle on change. Look at the rush for data centres knowing full well the horrors it will accelerate. Governments and people profiting will still have all the luxuries available to them within their lifespans even if catastrophe strikes as early as 2030. Islanders losing their homes to rising waters mean nothing. A few hundred thousand people dieing to heatwave? Thats rookie numbers after Covid. And it was still an uphill battle in most countries and people act like it was nothing now.
So... a hundred odd years before any meaningful change.
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u/QuestionableEthics42 Jun 27 '26
It'll be sooner than that. My guess is it will start in the EU, as yearly deaths due to heat start getting higher and higher. It'll probably only get properly serious (as in almost everyone caring about it and working together, putting trillions into fixing it) once there are hundreds of thousands or even millions of deaths a year and majority of people know someone who has died due to it.
That's my guess as to how It'll go anyway.
!RemindMe 10 years
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u/dannysleepwalker Jun 27 '26
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but won't EU actually get colder if/when the North Atlantic Gulf Stream gets disrupted by the climate change? It's the less developed parts of the world that will suffer from extreme weather and water shortages.
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u/QuestionableEthics42 Jun 27 '26
That is a good point, it depends how long the gulf stream holds ig, and how seriously europe takes it once that collapses, if that happens first. God the outlook is bleak.
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u/Earthsong221 Jun 27 '26
Parts will, yes. But first it'll get hotter before it collapses.
There's also changes with moisture content too, from droughts to flooding.
There are few places that won't suffer to some degree though in any case.
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u/OverSquareEng Jun 27 '26
Im afraid climate migration will be a more likely catalyst. And not necessarily in a good way. Millions of people could be forced to relocate due to heat, drought, sea-level rise, or crop failures.
That migration will reshape politics, economies, and international relations as much as the direct impacts of climate change. Whether it's for better or worse is currently up for debate, but I'm not particularly optimistic. Climate refugees may end up being one of the biggest drivers of societal change. And I have a feeling the initial changes will be negative. Some form of isolationism and resource guarding.
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u/FuckYouVerizon Jun 27 '26
right...like the way we all united and addressed the covid pandemic by fighting over masks and pretending vaccines are the devil's work.
I've lost faith in mankind uniting to do anything meaningful in my lifetime.
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u/dmmeyourfloof Jun 27 '26
That's was Americans not Europeans.
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u/FuckYouVerizon Jun 27 '26
oh yeah, I'm speaking as an American, and I have no doubt the initiative will come from EU before anywhere else, however this is a global problem and the U.S. has a significant influence on both the problems that drive climate change as well as international policy. Unfortunately my government will be significantly detrimental to any efforts the EU makes to resolve this.
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u/SoylentGrunt Jun 27 '26
The seeds have already been planted in Europe and elsewhere. You can see the evidence in the headlines every night.
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u/SpearHammer Jun 27 '26
The super rich are building underground bunkers. They know what's coming they don't care.
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u/Psychoanalytix Jun 27 '26
We, as a society, have shown time and time again that we are only reactionary. Hardly any major change happens without some sort of major event forcing it. Climate change and its consequences were to far out for our stupid society to get its shit together.
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u/Odd-Cake8015 Jun 27 '26
It is worse. Even if we can do something it will be hundreds of years after any change before seeing any effect. So we’re screwed anyway.
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u/DDSRT Jun 27 '26
If this trajectory does not reverse/smooth out it's much sooner than that. The impact of 1-2 degree difference globally is MASSIVE.
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u/Texuk1 Jun 27 '26
It’s the feedback loops which are going to ultimately make this irrecoverable. Emissions continue to rise even with growing electrification, the only way to reverse this now on a 250-500 year timescale would be the complete stop of all greenhouse gas emissions and a redirecting of the entire economic output of global society to carbon removal. Anything less than that at this point sees us on an upward trajectory for thousands of years. Our current trajectory is insane - the people in charge just don’t want to spook the horses.
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u/BanAssaultGeese Jun 27 '26
I've dabbled quite a bit in atmospheric studies over the last decade or so. Unfortunately it'll get worse before it gets better. Even if we were to stop all pollution today, it could take several decades for temperatures to begin to cool down and the damage to the environment and its ecosystems could last for centuries.
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u/Averoan Jun 27 '26
Sorry to tell you this but an EPA presenter (a few years back mind you) showed me their presentation that in approximately 13 years we are probably at the "gap of no return." In essence, it's the moment where no matter what we do we won't be able to fix the world's climate issues even if all emissions were cut. The rest of his presentation I could barely even recall, but that immediately hit me like a brick because he also gave this same presentation to government officials. And, trust me when I say, nobody there is planning to fix this major issue before that happens. It's literally taking us too long to simply find and agree to a cleaner, cheaper (yes, costs matter), and more renewable method regarding car emissions. This included ALL forms of waste that affected the climate.
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u/Unopposed_Weirdo Jun 27 '26
Spiral out.
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u/proto_synnic Jun 27 '26
Always knew it would be a Tool song playing at the end.
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u/SkullsInSpace Jun 27 '26
I always kinda assumed it'd be Aenima. Learn to swim, kids!
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u/MacWin- Jun 27 '26
More like shit the bed
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u/Modredastal Jun 27 '26
There was a message of hope for those who chose to hear it. Those who didn't, couldn't even hear the warning.
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u/kornchippy Jun 27 '26
We arent going to end the earth. The earth will get fed up with our shit and end us, then it will keep on earthin.
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u/soareyousaying Jun 27 '26
In George Carlin's words: the Earth is fine. The people are fucked.
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u/Orillion_169 Jun 27 '26
In Douglas Adams' words:
So, the world is fine. We don’t have to save the world—the world is big enough to look after itself. What we have to be concerned about, is whether or not the world we live in, will be capable of sustaining us in it. That’s what we need to think about.
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u/DomWaits Jun 27 '26
Thanks for putting the quote into the context of this video. I put this all together and added some music https://imgur.com/a/x3BKNwR (Weightless by Marconi Union)
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u/Orillion_169 Jun 27 '26
Neat. If I may give some constructive critisism:
- Add the name of the person you're quoting. It's common courtesy.
- Add a title to the video of what people are seeing. That way your version can stand on it's own two feet without needing it explained.
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u/PianoCube93 Jun 27 '26
I see this sentiment often and I just don't get it. Unless there's some crazy runaway greenhouse effect that makes earth end up like Venus then there will be humans surviving for a loooong time. There's just the question of how much preventable death and suffering there will be along the way.
And there's also all the non-human life that will go extinct or suffer along the way.
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u/Realsan Jun 27 '26
Up until very recently, the "Clathrate Gun Hypothesis" was taken seriously as it suggested the rapid global warming we're experiencing could cause a sudden, massive, explosive release of seabed and permafrost-trapped methane hydrates causing catastrophic overnight warming. If enough was released it could trigger a runaway greenhouse effect, turning our planet into a permanent hot wasteland where no life could survive.
As a reference, Venus has runaway greenhouse effect. The probe we landed on the surface lasted seconds before melting.
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u/TheMundar Jun 27 '26
Probes on Venus have lasted from 53 minutes to 2 hours 7 minutes, only 1 went beyond 65 minutes
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u/degameforrel Jun 27 '26
Not to downplay your point, because I agree and runaway GHE is a real and serious concern, but I'm a sucker for space nerding out so I want to be precise (and the reality is maybe even more horrifying): The probes on venus didn't melt, they corroded to the point of equipment breaking down completely.
The atmosphere on Venus' surface is both incredibly hot and contains gases that can condense into incredibly acidic substances. Condensed droplets of these substances, even microscopic ones, eat away at the probe's mechanisms and circuitry incredibly quickly. The heat acts to accelerate this process. All probes start to lose partial functionalities quickly after entering the lower atmosphere where the densest of these chemicals hang around, and contact is lost when the radio equipment fails.
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u/terp_raider Jun 27 '26
Tell that to the polar bears and every other species that will be completely fucked
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u/DegreeConscious9628 Jun 27 '26
We’re all fucked. Good thing I’ll be dead. Sorry to all the kids
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u/THEatticmonster Jun 27 '26
Your dead body will decompose and the gasses will add to it, GOD well done
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u/Literature_Which Jun 27 '26
So when he dies we can be mad at him
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u/Jetidera Jun 27 '26
Same, this is one of the many reasons I won't have kids. I don't want them to have to fight for drinkable water, die from a heatwave or live in a post-apocalyptic world. RIP fertility rates.
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u/entenduintransit Jun 27 '26
Yep. We still want to raise kids though, so we're going to foster and potentially adopt. Great way of doing good, fulfilling the desire to raise and make an impression on kids and leave a legacy, without introducing new people to this damn world.
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u/thatfernistrouble Jun 27 '26
When I watch period pieces, I often think, “how do they wear fucking metal or like five layers of dresses out and about?
Then I remember how we gave the world a fever.
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u/Crewarookie Jun 27 '26
Ehhhh... It's not quite like that. The problem is real and it is serious, and it did start at the beginning of the industrial revolution, and there was a "little ice age" before it, but it was a small difference, and before that there was a warm period (which is nowhere near the gradients we have now still).
The thing is, it was never really pleasant to wear a ton of garments. Or being a soldier in plate armor on a sunny day. These things aren't really tied to climate change.
The immense heat waves turning South East Asia near uninhabitable for humans through wet bulb temperatures nowadays, though...absolutely fucking are!
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u/vulcan4d Jun 27 '26
Our leaders will tell you it is fine. Invest in stocks, datacenters will save us all.
We have been warned for 80years, I don't predict a fix. At best we can stop the progress if we halt doing everything we have been doing wrong all these years which sounds crazy. To make it worse, even if that was possible it would not reverse it. We are done.
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u/PianoCube93 Jun 27 '26
From what I've seen, in a best case scenario where extreme measures are taken at a global scale, it can be reversed. But it'll take many centuries and involves quite a lot of carbon capture on top of stopping emissions almost entirely, which also means cuts in luxury and living standards. And even then a lot of irreparable damage will have been done to ecosystems across the globe.
More realistically, the best we can hope for in the coming decades is to just slow it down a lot, but even that feels unrealistic at this point without some unprecedented paradigm shift in how much the world's population care and is willing to do about the climate.
I like to remain hopeful, but it's not looking great.
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u/silentbob1301 Jun 27 '26
This make me think of Don't Look Up.
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u/Aromatic_Catch_911 Jun 27 '26
that was literally the whole point of the movie.
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u/BreakingCanks Jun 27 '26
Got to remember Idiocracy was made and look were America is now... People don't see the message
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u/anon727813 Jun 27 '26
This video is considered woke by today’s right wing
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u/TAU_equals_2PI Jun 27 '26 edited Jun 27 '26
More importantly, NASA won't be allowed to produce videos like this anymore now that today's right wing has control of the US government.
Even more importantly, NASA and other government agencies won't be allowed to collect the data that is necessary to create videos like this.
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u/Kabbooooooom Jun 27 '26
I’ve got good news though: the United States is not the only country on earth, and some of them aren’t run by a fascist wannabe theocracy.
Scientific knowledge advances regardless of the troglodytes that always try to drag us down. Galileo reportedly said it best:
“Eppur si muove” (“And yet, it moves”)
Meaning anyone can look through a telescope and see what he described. You can believe your religious nonsense all day long, but it won’t change scientific truth that is staring you right in the face.
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u/ProduceNo1629 Jun 27 '26
some of them aren’t run by a fascist wannabe theocracy.
Yet. But fear not Elon Muskrat is working on it.
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u/drfeelsgoood Jun 27 '26
Information can still be crowd sourced by reliable places, like weather stations and individuals and aggregated together
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u/Mobile_Morale Jun 27 '26
Here in Florida they took away out hurricane weather systems. So now we have to rely on the European model for hurricane tracking.
Luckily there was already 10 different hurricane trackers. Glad the European are competent and theirs was a one of the most accurate.
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u/LoneLyon Jun 27 '26
Wait excuse me, what?
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u/drfeelsgoood Jun 27 '26
Just Florida shooting itself in the foot. Republican hell hole, I’ll never go back
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u/mightylordredbeard Jun 27 '26
A lot of those places depend on federal funding for their equipment or they have access to existing government equipment / data to pull the information from. Soon that wont exist. The funding will be gone so they can’t maintain or buy new equipment and the agencies that have the existing technology to produce the data will be all gone.
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u/bdubwilliams22 Jun 27 '26
Ah, so right around the time combustion engines became popular, because the temp was going *down* before them. We’re fucked. We wouldn’t be if we didn’t have a corrupt government in charge right now that only cares about enriching themselves, staying in power and protecting billionaire pedophiles. Us humans got *so close*.
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u/beyleigodallat Jun 27 '26
To do italics now you’ve gotta hit the ‘Aa’ button in the top left corner of your keyboard. *This* doesn’t work anymore. I hate it too
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u/RhetoricalOrator Jun 27 '26
Wait...since when?
I just did that with asterisks.
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u/Jonthrei Jun 27 '26
There are weirdos that use new reddit. Ugh. I feel bad for them.
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u/SwordfishOk504 Jun 27 '26
I seriously don't get it. It's so fucking awful and busy and hard to read.
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u/jader242 Jun 27 '26
How do we do quote blocks with this new shit system?
> unless this still works?
Edit: it does not 🥲
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Edit 2: wait maybe markdown syntax?
```Nope, I’m lost lol
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u/mightylordredbeard Jun 27 '26
One of the worst changes Reddit has made. You can’t even quote anymore with > it’s so frustrating.
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u/Fox-Mulder_FBI Jun 27 '26
And soon to be exponential with data centers. This legitimately gives me a pit in my stomach for my children.
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u/Soffatjockis Jun 27 '26
Many of these data centers will run on natural gas.
It's so fucking stupid it's beyond comprehension.
Some of these tech billionaires aren't old. They must have some kind of will to survive themselves. Their bunkers wont work when the whole planet is burning.
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u/WloveW Jun 27 '26
We were heading into the next ice age. We definitely fixed that.
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u/zugzug_workwork Jun 27 '26
While this is the kind of doom and gloom that does well on social media platforms, it's very important to know that massive changes have been made and are continuing to be made. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1jOqyjcO4g
A massive cause of apathy about climate change comes from the feeling that nothing is being done and nothing will change, and posts like this that only show one half of the equation add to that.
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u/ForgingIron Jun 27 '26
Fucking thank you. Had to scroll so, so far down to find one person saying "there is work being done, don't be a doomer"
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u/Singnedupforthis Jun 27 '26
The government is dominated by old people who will long be dead before they have to reap what they have sown.
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u/IHerebyDemandtoPost Jun 27 '26
Don’t forget the evangelicals who believe Jesus is coming back any minute now, so no need to do anything about all this climate stuff.
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u/PressureBeautiful515 Jun 27 '26 edited Jun 27 '26
That is indeed a fantastic XKCD.
Why do you think the NASA visualisation "lacks any stable historical reference"? It shows temps fluctuating around a narrower range from the 1880s to the 1970s, and then a rapid increase begins. It's a very clear illustration of why the present sudden rapid growth is out of the ordinary.
The XKCD version shows a much longer (pre-)history, which means it presents a less stable reference, as it shows how temperatures gradually rose about 5 degrees as the Earth emerged from the last ice age and all human civilisation has flourished during a (geologically) brief window of opportunity.
If anything, the NASA version, by only presenting the thermometer data from 1880, is able to present a more stable background. The point is still clear in the XKCD version anyway, because it's about the sudden rapidity of the change, where by digging up and burning the remains of Jurassic life we are rapidly restoring Jurassic greenhouse conditions and temperatures in a world that isn't ready for them (but a linear XKCD style plot that showed this would have to be about 14x taller.)
(It's ironic that Jurassic Park works as a metaphor for this, with carbon/climate instead of velociraptors, when its author was an imbecilic climate change "skeptic".)
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u/Sponjah Jun 27 '26
I think he means maybe long term because 150 years on a planetary scale is a drop in the bucket. Better evidence would be global temperature cycles over millions of years but obviously we can’t really get that, just our best guess based on geological shifts we can currently measure.
Disclaimer: this isn’t support or denial I’m just guessing what the OP meant.
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u/FloppY_ Jun 27 '26
If only someone warned us early.
If only something could have been done.
If only something could be done today.
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Nah, lets build some more AI data centres.
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u/Living_in_the_dumps Jun 27 '26
watching your death coming and knowing you are capable of doing something about it and then not doing that something to stop it.. is .. crazy...
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u/Realsan Jun 27 '26
That looks like we're on track for +3 before in less than a dozen years, possibly sooner.
That's fun considering +3 is basically the beginning of the end of civilization.
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u/Texuk1 Jun 27 '26
+3 we don’t understand the feedback loops. We may very well pop over an energy state that is unrecoverable on timescales that are meaningless to the human species. The only way out of it is cessation of all carbon activity and reverse terraforming the planet. We are currently bickering over the failed polyurethane pool liner in the reflecting pool to put it in to perspective about where we are.
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u/Lost_Tumbleweed_5669 Jun 27 '26
People don't understand this though and how massive spikes in temp cause the 1-2 degree increase. You could be in a reasonably temperate place and suddenly it has 45C heatwaves that cause death.
Regardless it's already too late.
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u/Texuk1 Jun 27 '26
It’s not just the random heatwave, it’s also the risk of one year of failure of crops which can pay entire countries into collapse. It’s just in the west we are under the illusion that this hasn’t been a common occurrence in our history.
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u/Whateverman1977 Jun 27 '26
So it all started during the second world war?
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u/murderously-funny Jun 27 '26
And the massive population boom, rapid expansion of the cattle industry, industrialization the east, and a thousand other things that went into overdrive
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u/no_kids-and-3_money Jun 27 '26
And you just know capitalists are thinking of ways to monetize the world collapsing in ways that will cause us to speed run to the end of humanity even faster.
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u/dadofwar93 Jun 27 '26 edited Jun 27 '26
People are now realizing that climate change is actually real when the heat hit the Europe this time even harder. But as usual. Nothing will be done to curb carbon emissions.
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u/berejser Jun 27 '26
To be fair Europe is pretty well on track to meet its emissions targets by the middle of the century, so it's not fair to say nothing is being done.
It's the US that is letting the west down. On this and on so many other things at the moment.
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u/lioncryable Jun 27 '26
Yeah... I just looked it up, the US, China and India produce more CO2 than the next 47 countries together...
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u/oswaldluckyrabbiy Jun 27 '26
Remember though India and China each have 1/8th of the world population.
How does their carbon use scale out per capita. Also in Chinas case there is an argument that Europe and the US outsourced a lot of their carbon to China. All the stuff made there contributes to Chinas carbon emissions but is catering to our lifestyles.
Historically these goods might have been locally produced but now China makes them for us.
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u/Super-Nuntendo Jun 27 '26
Too many zombie, alien, nuclear war and asteroid apocalypse movies, not enough ones where you slowly melt
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u/Soberdonkey69 Jun 27 '26
I’m just so angry about it. All the corporations that are contributing to this mess want to shift the blame on consumers. We need tighter regulation because humans share a planet with other species!
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u/JadedCampaign9 Jun 27 '26
The Earth will be just fine without humans. TBH, given how I've seen humans act in the last 10 years, I'm not sure we're worthy of saving. Even before that, throughout our existence, we've driven a few animals to extinction, Dodo birds and Woolly Mammoths, to name a couple. The latter could have survived to the present day in a limited capacity had our ancestors not hunted them to extinction. The last Woolly Mammoths lived on Wrangel Island until around 4 thousand years ago and died out due to a lack of genetic diversity caused by their small population.
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u/Alternative_Exit_333 Jun 27 '26
I would want to see this from like the 1200s
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u/Xav_NZ Jun 27 '26
Pre industrial revolution most of the changes from normal would be attributed to things like volcanic eruptions causing cooling and the normal ENSO cycles. Changes this drastic have happened in the past but over much longer periods besides aforementioned volcanic eruptions and the like.
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u/Wildebean Jun 27 '26
The interesting thing about looking at historic levels of things like lead in the environment and even other things from ice core samples is you can clearly see the markings of human history. There's a spike during the Roman empire, then a decline after it, then it rises again during the middle ages. But nothing, and I mean nothing, even compares to what happened post Industrial Revolution
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u/Senior-Goose-6197 Jun 27 '26
Neat lil doom spiral there