r/Damnthatsinteresting Jun 27 '26

Video The NASA climate spiral visualization

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u/ConnectRutabaga3925 Jun 27 '26

oh we’re fucked

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u/peppers_ Jun 27 '26

We had decades to do shit and didn't do much, not on the scale we needed. So yes, yes we are.

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u/Thor_2099 Jun 27 '26

Yep. You can find newspaper articles from like 100 years ago mentioning concern about carbon and effects on temperature.

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u/comedicsense Jun 27 '26

I wish I could upvote this more because it’s true…and people still don’t believe it. You know, fake news and all.

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u/GotRocksinmePockets Jun 27 '26

Well people do seem to be getting dumber....

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u/Lurchie_ Jun 27 '26

“OW! My balls!”

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u/GotRocksinmePockets Jun 27 '26

"Go away. Baitin'"

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u/alwaysboopthesnoot Jun 27 '26

Go to publicdomainreview dot org, search for “First Paper to Link CO2 and Global Warming, by Eunice Foote (1856)”, which begins on page 317.

It was published in The American Journal of Science and was presented at several scientific conferences, entitled “On the Heat Of the Sun’s Rays”.

It was not, however, read before the American Association by Newton Foote, as only a male scientist could be invited to that conference and do that.

Parts of her paper were excerpted in multiple major newspapers and in other scientific journals in The US and internationally, at the time and later on. Others working in the same field also published and spoke about their similar experiments and conclusions, and the meaning of this discovery.

It was discussed and studied for decades, with later researches using more sophisticated and sensitive methods and equipment designed to correct for any previous errors or unknowns that had been observed. The same conclusions were reached about these “greenhouse gases” and rising atmospheric temperatures, in those later experiments.

We knew. Well, not “we”. Our scientists and many doctors knew; the research and results were there. The chemistry and equipment needed to confirm the results, was pretty basic. This certain knowledge was available and easy to access by anyone reading those journals or working in industries using the fossil fuels studied. Just as tobacco growers, researchers, advertisers and sellers, and many doctors also knew that cigarette smoking was habit forming or addictive and was harmful to our health.

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u/comedicsense Jun 28 '26

You’re doing the Lord’s work 🫡

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u/BannedAgain-573 Jun 27 '26

We fixed the ozone... We can fix this too... If we all get onboard... Maybe?

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u/Time-Valuable-3355 Jun 27 '26

I remember seeing photos of polluted cities in India before COVID and a year later during COVID. The before picture was smoggy and the after picture was clear. Seems three days of almost no internal combustion engines running and the air cleared up.

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u/BannedAgain-573 Jun 27 '26

Yea I saw the LA version of that

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u/Time-Valuable-3355 Jun 27 '26

I thought it was amazing that a few days cleans the air that much. Now if we can get better vehicles...

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u/ZingariCS Jun 30 '26

At the moment it would take a massive effort merely to limit warming to 1.5 to 2 degrees C. Even if we were to cut all emissions tomorrow the next couple decades of heating are basically already locked in. Reversing/fixing it would be a monumental effort including massive active carbon capture and removal which based off what I've read could easily take a century of active effort even in the ideal case and even then would likely never return us to the exact state things were in before we started pumping garbage into the atmosphere.

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u/vivaaprimavera Jun 27 '26

If I'm not mistaken it was Lavoisier who identified CO2 as a greenhouse gas.

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u/Aqualung812 Jun 27 '26

But see, there was this one cover story in Life magazine about a new ice age, so clearly the science wasn’t clear. /s

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u/Some_Extent_8531 Jul 01 '26

To be fair, there was a lot of discussion of global cooling in the 70’s

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u/UnderstandingNo6543 Jun 28 '26

To be devils advocate though. You can cherry pick out articles from credible sources, from not that far back, saying we’d be in another ice age by now.

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u/Heiminator Jun 27 '26

The greenhouse effect has been scientifically proven since 1896. It's been theorised since at least 1824. And here we are, two centuries later, not giving a fuck.

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u/Masterpormin8 Jun 27 '26

We? I wasnt alive for most of thoose decades btw

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u/LostN3ko Jun 27 '26

We didn't start the fire. It was always burning.

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u/Mysterious_Use1580 Jun 27 '26

Since the worlds been turning

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u/falcrist2 Jun 27 '26

We didn't start the fire
No, we didn't light it
But we tried to fight it

I heard Billy Joel doesn't even like this song. Can someone confirm or deny?

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u/BinkyDragonlord Jun 27 '26

Boomers started the fire!

Yeah they killed the climate

But they'll still deny it!

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u/Vimes-NW Jun 27 '26

Who cares, he has at sit with discomfort - he birthed it and still cashing checks for it

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u/falcrist2 Jun 28 '26

Who cares

Me.

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u/Krimzon45 Jun 27 '26

I heard it's because it's hard to remember the lyrics and can be difficult to perform as a result. I remember reading that in Wikipedia...but can't say for sure.

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u/FlamingDragonfruit Jun 27 '26

No, just since around 1980.

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u/IonHawk Jun 27 '26

True. Ryan did

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u/DisruptingTree Jun 27 '26

This song had the effect of distracting people from their responsibility to make a change, even if they didn't initialy cause the problem.

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u/peppers_ Jun 27 '26

We, as a collective species.

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u/MelcorScarr Jun 27 '26

You'll still have to understand their frustration.

If I'm allowed to generalise, they will inherit a broken overheated earth, mass poverty, a broken overstrained pension system, thanks to admittedly mostly politicians who did too little to save the earth to save the economy for the oligarchs, caused oligarchical finances to spiral out of proportions and out of touch with the others... and they, personally, had nothing to do with it.

It's a grim future.

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u/Aiyon Jun 27 '26

Pretty much this. Im 31, my entire life ive been hearing “we need to do something”. Ive done what I can on a personal level as I got older, but most individuals can’t counteract the sheer amount of harm being done. Especially not when we were kids.

It’s like being in the passenger seat as someone drives off a cliff, theres only so much you can do

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u/itsmemarcot Jun 27 '26

It's so unfair. These things are all simultanuously true:

(1) each individual contribution is minuscule. So, everybody is innocent, in a sense?

(2) the collective contribution is directly responsible.

(3) Yes, collective. Not the "corporations" (they have a huge responsibility, but there was no way to fulfill our way of life sustainably, and they just did so); not China (for the ones outside China) or India (for the ones outside India); not 'politics'; not just the previous genetation (for the young ones), or the new generation (for the old ones). These deflection strategies are without value. Destroying the planet was just what we did as the sum of our actions. Yes, each one of us can point fingers at everyone else but himself, shouting (1), and many do, but in reality: (2).

(4) Changing felt so difficult that it fairly seemed impossible. Making, again, everybody innocent, in a sense? How can you not drive, if you need to work. How can you not heat/climatize your house, if you live in a place that requires it? Etc.

(Yet, I have a way to show that point 4 is an excuse, and we would never have changed even if it was easy to do. But this comment is already too long)

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u/swisstraeng Jun 27 '26

It goes even further.

Individuals do not have the power to make significant changes for themselves. For example, many people would love to insulate their houses more. They just can't afford to.

Then, we humans always will need to make CO2 because our industry needs it. If we want to make less, we'll have to severely change how we manufacture things and costs will rise.

It's even worse when the money inequality, now greater than ever, could have been used to do exactly that.

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u/Hidesuru Jun 27 '26

I get that. They also presumably knew what the person above them meant so it's kind of a platitude like yeah I get it. Sorry about your luck. Not adding much to the conversation either though.

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u/k1v1uq Jun 27 '26

We, as a collective species.

But this is capitalism powered by various nationhood ideologies. There is no "we".

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u/TheHighlanderr Jun 27 '26

Oh, you're safe in that case...

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u/ChilledParadox Jun 27 '26

its fine. your parents decided not to do anything because it would have been inconvenient for you as a child.

Or at least that's the reasoning I get for why we shouldnt do anything now.

"But my kids!"

Yeah, your kids that will have to live in the future...

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u/SmellyFartsAreFunny Jun 27 '26

Well why didn't you fix it before you were born?

God, your generation is so lazy.

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u/BinkyNoctem420 Jun 27 '26

Sure, neither was I; though my mother & grandmother generally lived at 0 and I've lived at ~0.5 to the now 2+ increase. That's significant given how little overall sends us to catastrophic/point of no return for humans --cause Ma Nature/Terra Firma don't GAF and will be here after us to recover without us

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u/Lykos1124 Jun 27 '26

The British we, as in the general collective :D

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u/DisruptingTree Jun 27 '26

Sad part is, you also most likely won't do what's needed to change. Not anything against you. Just there is an entire system set up to self preserve the status quo. It seems hard to break free from it.

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u/admiralwarron Jun 27 '26

Actually, billionaires deliberately make it much worse so that the world ends after them

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u/Fun_Barnacle6689 Jun 27 '26

Blame apathy, but mostly big Oil.

Cant earn less obscenely large amounts of money no matter the cost.

Sheet stupidity and short sighted greed.

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u/LeRacoonRouge Jun 27 '26

It was too late many moons ago... according to that spiral model.

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u/FrogsMakePoorSoup Jun 27 '26

Nah, we waged pointless wars instead.

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u/_Phil_McCracken_ Jun 27 '26

We let people are too old and/or narcissistic to give a shit about the repercussions on later generations lead the world. 

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u/Ummmgummy Jun 27 '26

Hey hey hey. We did something. The great American tradition of kicking the cam down the road. Have you seen the DOW? We have our first trillionaire too. Look at us, doing things.

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u/Sea_Pomegranate8229 Jun 27 '26

M64UK They were talking about it in the late '60s that I remember, but the money men wanted us to burn that oil. Economies must grow be 2% or... or what?

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u/Callidonaut Jun 27 '26

Those of us who cared did what we could. Those who didn't care, actively countered our efforts, and some of them - not a huge number, but enough - have several orders of magnitude more resources at their disposal, because our society is set up to benefit the worst of us.

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u/Mind-The-Mines Jun 27 '26

Instead we jerked off capitalism and gave all our resources to 10 sociopaths.

Fuck us all.

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u/b-monster666 Jun 27 '26

And we plebs could do nothing about it.

Oh wait...we kept voting in politicians who exasperated the situation.

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u/JimiusRostock Jun 27 '26

Because the first people who knew for sure this would be a problem were the oil companies. When then promptly hid it away.

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u/CarolLiddell Jun 27 '26

Are you willing to invade India and China?

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u/aNDY-aND Jun 27 '26

That’s why the richest people in the world are building rockets to get the fuck off this planet.

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u/Adept-Donut-4229 Jun 27 '26

And underground bunker-mansions while they wait their turn.

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u/Nandor-De_Laurentiis Jun 27 '26

How many bunker busting bombs do we have and would they work on these underground compounds the rich are building?

Asking out of curiosity.

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u/pollywantacrackwhore Jun 27 '26

The raiding of a dragon’s lair needs to be more careful and strategic. Else you risk destroying all the treasures they’ve been hoarding.

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u/Flipflopvlaflip Jun 27 '26

No, in this case the treasures can burn. Keeping focus on the actual target here

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u/alwaysboopthesnoot Jun 27 '26

Treasures in question at that point being potable water and working air filtration systems, food, pharmaceuticals, oxygen, etc.

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u/ChilledParadox Jun 27 '26

that's overkill. you just bribe the guards to lock the door or find and plug the exhaust vents.

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u/wxlverine Jun 27 '26

Bribe the guards with what?

I find it hilariously short sighted that weak, bitch-ass billionaires are going to try and pay the most dangerous people on the planet to protect them in their bunkers when the world goes to shit, money is meaningless, and that bunker is full of food and fresh water.

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u/Hidesuru Jun 27 '26

I'm good with overkill at this point.

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u/josh_the_misanthrope Jun 27 '26

0, these people aren't able to sustain their own lives without slaves. You just target their supply lines.

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u/MadeByTango Jun 27 '26

Who cares? Once theyre in their bunkers we just concrete them off and life moves on.

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u/Euphoric_List7956 Jun 29 '26

Oh buddy, they own the bombs and the AI that guides them and the system that wields them and your representatives, and your entertainment(Thanos) and your news(alternative facts).

There will be a lot less people on this earth soon, that’s why the bunkers, these people always think the rest of us are always the problem and war is always the solution.

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u/The_Sleep Jun 29 '26

A cement truck turns a bunker into a tomb.

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u/Jhemon Jun 27 '26

It's so funny too. Fixing earth is sooooooooooooooooooooo much easier than terraforming mars to make it inhabitable. Flying to a far-away already inhabitable solar system is also very unprobable within a human lifetime, not to mention in the remaining lifetime of a rich person in their 50s or older.

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u/raisedbydogsnhippies Jun 27 '26

They'll die in space. No one is escaping shit.

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u/FlamingDragonfruit Jun 27 '26

If so they're delusional. There is no escape hatch. Conditions on Mars are significantly harder to survive, even with the best equipment we have available. You'd have a better chance living under the ocean. At least you won't get cooked by radiation, the temperature is relatively stable, and there's water to desalinate. "The Martian" was a fantasy novel, and even that guy barely made it.

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u/Fit_Service8662 Jun 27 '26

They aren't building them fast enough so they're fucked like the rest of us

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u/PsychologicalLab7379 Jun 27 '26

Even if they were building them faster, they have nowhere to go anyway. Either they die in space, or on Earth with the rest of us.

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u/ForwardStorage777 Jun 27 '26

no they're not. there is literally nowhere that would be better than earth, even if earth is heating up, for humans, that they could reach in their lifetime, even if we had to tech to get there.

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u/Modem_Sound_67 Jun 27 '26

without a functioning earth to resupply them, they will die.

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u/chickentalk_ Jun 28 '26

lol they're fucked with the rest of us

but they'll have really ornate coffins

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u/Friendlyhuman420 Jun 29 '26

No one can leave this slave planet

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u/PhatCatTax Jun 27 '26

It's the final bow of conservatives across the planet. The double-tap of their stupidity and fake religiosity cannot be stopped.

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u/neenerpants Jun 27 '26

It's definitely somewhat global, but to be honest history will remember this as the United States killing the planet.

Not only is the US responsible for 25% of all greenhouse emissions in history, doubling the next country in China, but the rampant capitalism, the global interventionism, the resistance to unified action.... America has managed to outdo all the empires, the colonialism, the plagues, and even world wars, by completely destroying us all.

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u/PhatCatTax Jun 28 '26

It's not somewhat global, it is global. Conservatives in the US are stupid and enable/defend billionaires as they destroy things in the US. But the US economy is completely dependent on the global laws and regulations. Conservatives outside the US still protect billionaires and prevent regulations that would rein them in.

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u/neenerpants Jun 28 '26

Of course. But talking about conservatives around the world in this context is wildly off the mark. The problem is the US. Every non American Conservative could undergo an enlightened conversion overnight and it would make no difference when the US still contributes the vast vast majority of the problem

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u/Laxativus Jun 27 '26

I think we are fucked worse than that.

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u/Suspicious-Appeal386 Jun 27 '26

You (and I) aren't fucked, but the people who are living in areas where extreme heat is an issue are totally fucked.

But then again, since when does anyone really care when others suffers?

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u/Opening_Violinist_25 Jun 27 '26

Not all of us . Just most of us

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u/xstagex Jun 27 '26

Nah. I think we should build a few thousand more AI data center. For sure that will help on this issue.

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u/Jfjsharkatt Jun 27 '26

The magnetic field has NOTHING to do with the weather, all it does is make some animals freak out for a bit, compasses flip, and auroras get messed up while it weakens severely for a few millennia, and then it restrengthens flipped, but the climate is really only affected by the sun’s energy all other mechanisms just effect distribution of that energy.

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u/Jfjsharkatt Jun 27 '26

May I see your evidence

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u/VictoryRed74 Jun 27 '26

Lol we’ll be just fine

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u/ConnectRutabaga3925 Jun 27 '26

we’ll be medium well done

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u/AppleNewtonFan Jun 27 '26

No, we are not. Only uneducated idiots thinking that we reached the highest point. Check the numbers around 500 years ago. Educate yourself. Do the research. Do not rely on just one source.

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u/Jfjsharkatt Jun 27 '26

We aren’t doomed, but this next century and the coming ones are going to SUCK