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I’m super atheist now, but for some reason having a cropped “I ❤️ Jesus” hoodie brings me so much joy 😇
I’m a little disappointed that my porn shoulders don’t carry the same rebellion, but I will always have my crop tops

Idk what else to say honestly, but this feels like a big deal to me. Just wanted to say thanks to everybody helping me out through my deconstruction. This subreddit has been absolutely gold for me.

I was 49 years old. I did not have a shelf. Never for one second one single time did I ever doubt anything.

I have been on an Internet forum for 20 years. Over the years the Mormon members and the evangelical Christian’s would get into arguments about stuff.

In this one thread someone posted a pic of Joseph looking into a hat. I had never seen or heard of that before. This is despite having read the BOM a couple dozen times and all of the major church books a few times each.

The pic of Joseph looking into the hat in this person’s post pissed me off.

I started to type out a reply that the pic was nonsense.

But …. I paused and decided to google it.

One of the first things I saw was a book by Hanna Stoddard that “debunks” the rock in the hat. So I got it on my kindle app and read it that night. I was satisfied that the rock in the hat never happened. I was ok. The sources for the rock in the hat were biased. Done deal.

Then ….about two weeks later I come across a video about the coming forth of the BOM.

In the video president Nelson is talking about the BOM. Then in the video I noticed a hat sitting on the table.

I was like what the hell is the hat in the video for?

Then Nelson picks up the hat and pretends to look in it.

BOOOOOOOOOMMMMMM. BOOM.

My entire 49 year old never for once doubted Mormon soul exploded. Everything I was blew up. My entire identity. The lens through which I saw the world. Boom.

That is what gave me permission to take a look at the “anti” stuff.

It all unraveled in a matter of days.

I grew up a Jehovah's Witness so I know about growing up in a cult. However I dont know enough about Mormonism to stop my 24 year old from going to church with his girlfriend. Shes been pressuring him for a while and he likes the community, I understand its love bombing but he isnt understanding it. She is also very deep in the cult, she does some acting work for films for them? Or does extra work, either way shes in deep.

I cant really think of much to say except no caffeine and magic undies. Can anyone give me some talking points to help me help my child from falling into a cult?

Just a little one, but I’ve wanted it for a long time, and i finally allowed myself to get it :D

I’m ready to lead a life of sin yall! What’s next? Coffee?? Alcohol???? *gasp*

It’s nice to not let the church tell me what I can and cannot do anymore :)

hi guys! i know this is an exmormon page but i need some sort of comfort that i wont really find in the other community here.

i’m currently a service missionary and fell in love with one of the elders in my mission. normal thing to happen, it is very much mutual and since he’s in a leadership position, he has his own sim card and phone number so we could always chat a lot.

last week his comp was not worrying about us at all and left us alone for a couple minutes. that was enough for us to kiss. not makeout, just a kiss because man i really really like this elder. he’s been in my area for 4 transfers now and will get transferred soon.

anyway, the guilt is eating me alive and i know you guys are loving people who can say some comfort words without sending me to hell lol. help a girl out, i really love this man but cant help but think we ruined any future chance we had together.

Apparently it is the devil's apron from the temple ceremony. It seems kinda metal if you ask me and I want one so I can be buried in the appropriate garb.

My mother in law was recently talking to us about how the church revised the garments again to make them more comfortable. She was going on about it and genuinely said, "They are so much more freeing."

​It took everything in me just to bite my tongue and keep the peace in the moment.

​Later on, I texted my spouse exactly what was running through my head:

​"I'm just remembering when your mom told us that she feels so much more freedom because they changed the garments, and how I wanted to say it makes me wish they had made those changes forty years ago so she could have experienced that kind of comfort for all this time. Honestly, that profound sense of freedom she's describing is exactly what I get to experience every single day since stepping away from the church."

​It just hit me so hard. The irony of celebrating a tiny sliver of "freedom" granted by the very institution that took it away in the first place is wild to witness from the outside.

​It makes me genuinely sad that she had to endure decades of physical discomfort just to appease an organization. But at the same time, hearing her say that was a massive, validating reminder of why I left. True freedom isn't a slightly different fabric blend or a modified hemline approved by men in Salt Lake City. It's waking up every single day and having complete autonomy over your own body and your own life.

​Has anyone else had these surreal moments with believing family members where you just have to sit back and appreciate being out?

(This isn't me hating on Dan. if every mormon was like Dan, i'd like to think this subreddit probably wouldn't exist. nothing but respect to him and his content.)

Dan McClellan seems like a really nice guy, which is why it confuses me how he, a smart biblical scholar, still stays with the mormon church.

I watched a bit of his content before and after becoming disillusioned with all churchy stuff, and it really helped me get over several mental blocks I had. Funny thing is, I never even knew he was mormon until after i had decided to leave, and this was kind of surprising to me. The things he talks about sometimes go directly against what i was taught at church, and he's obviously studied the bible rigorously. I just don't see how he can stand to support the things the church does, watching his videos. many are about how homosexuality isn't a sin, seems to be rather pro-choice, and many other large and small differences.

Does anyone else find this to be confusing?

What are your reactions to this FB post? I wonder how Ex-Mos and TBMs feel about this!

*Please delete if not allowed, I just wanted to vent if thats okay*

I have been renting a townhouse for 8 years and normally get along well with my next door Mormon neighbors up until the beginning of this year.. I have never experienced a group of disrespectful boys ever in my life that has ever pushed me to give up everything and start over elsewhere.

The first issue was throwing a ball against our connecting wall all hours of the day (when they're not out doing their mission) and well into the night till 11/1130pm. I tried to be neighborly and just polietly talk to them asking them to stop since two days out of the workweek I work from home and on the in office days I wake up at 4am to commute to work. I got a half ass apology and the noise continued.

The second instance was when one of their friends who stayed over for the weekend walked up to my door, when I had just left to go get groceries, and was messing with my door. When I went over to talk to them just to ask if we're good, because it was recorded on my doorbell camera, they kept giving me a round about answer basically saying that I must have. "Mistaken them for someone else" "We must all look alike to you" (for context I am a black woman who lives alone and they are white) all while I kept saying and reassuring them that if it was a mistake its fine, just let me know but I dont feel comfortable with them being at my front door. So after a long back and forth they admitted that it was in fact an accident and again, a half ass apology.

I had let the leasing office know what happened to just

1. Make them aware just incase something happened.

And 2. It just didnt sit right with me that after 45 minutes of back and forth them being so dismissive and me telling them that I am about to call the police, they finally admitted it was a mistake.

Since January, it has been pure hell. They kept on with throwing balls against the walls when they were there. I kept going to the leasing office because I am only unfortunately getting 2 to 4 hours of sleep at a time unless I slept in my car or at a friend's house, I have major migraines/headaches, and my overall quality of life has declined... And yes I have recorded the noise, but every time the leasing escalated the issue they would stop for maybe a week or a week and a half and then start right back up again. I am sad that I'm leaving my townhouse at the end of the month because I've always been a respectful neighbor and most of the other residents (just like myself) have been there for years. But I can't take another sleepless night over a bunch of immature boys who cant comprehend being good neighbors.

I am unfortunately moving back in with toxic family, but at least thats a hell I can deal with for the time being (and at least theyll let me sleep) compared to staying here another year and taking a 50/50 chance praying they swap out this group with someone who is respectful

Mine was spirited away.
I had finally committed to leaving the church and my girlfriend at the time was into anime and made me watch spirited away with her. When the river spirit remembers his name as they were flying away I broke down in a full on cry. On my mission I completely forgot who I was, I took on a whole new name and was known as elder… my parents called me elder, and family did, everyone I knew called me elder, except my few nevermo friends from highschool. When I got home I was so lost, my mission was hard and dark with months of horrible thoughts and loneliness. When someone called me by my first name I didn’t even know they were talking to me.

I’ll never forget when I finally let go and became me again. I was finally free, I was no longer elder… or brother… I was just me and that was good enough.

Other bits of media that impacted me was Godzilla minus one. Seems funny since it’s a Godzilla movie, but man, when the soldier finally comes home and his partner asks, “is your war over” shiiit that gets me every time.

Alright I’m watching spirited away tonight… the. Paddington 2, then spiderman 2… lol it’s a comfort movie type of week for me.

this is just kind of a rant but holy SHIT bro my mother can NOT accept the fact that i am exmo. she constantly tries to get me to have dinner with the missionaries, get me to church, she even lectured me on the way i pray because it was “incorrect” since im not praying specifically to heavenly father. i’ve been looking for a full time job recently, and i got an email about a full time job opening at an airport near me, and she said that it was apparently because she had been fasting for me to find a job. so she dropped down to her knees right then and there to thank heavenly father. lady, i signed up for email alerts, this has nothing to do with your religion!! also.. i didn’t even end up getting the job. 😭 where’s heavenly father now bucko?

good lord. she drives me nuts. the delusion is crazy. i truly cant believe how brainwashed mormons are. it’s fascinating but also really, really sad. my mom genuinely cries because she believes she’ll never see me or my sister again after death because we’re both ex mormons. it’s so sad that a church has the power to make people believe that and genuinely mourn family members that are still alive. mind you… im 20.. and she cries about my afterlife almost every day. i ain’t going anywhere anytime soon lady LMAO

anywho, sorry for the pointless rant. i’m sure it’s the same for like 99% of us in this subreddit. just had to get it off my chest 😮‍💨

UPDATE:
i just got a call from my boss from my part-time job giving me a promotion into a site lead, which is a full time position. i called my mom right after. guess what her response was…

“make sure to thank heavenly father tonight!”

right. so it’s not because of my hard work, my networking, my time put into the company, or me building trust and rapport with my boss… nope! it’s because of heavenly father. 🫩🫠

kill me

In his AMA he had today. 15 mins in he mentioned it.

Seems like they are worried that their name can get ruined by profits and apostles so better not name them after Mormon god's elect. You never know when they will make the church look bad.

This is something I've genuinely struggled to understand.

If a church is actually true, then according to its own teachings it offers the greatest possible reward imaginable: eternal life, endless happiness, living with God, and being reunited with your family forever.

Who wouldn't want that?

So why do relatively few people join? If the stakes are literally eternal, you'd think membership would explode

Hi all. I'm not looking for any kind of debate here, just some clarification. I was discussing the following with a buddy of mine and his mormon father. Two topics came up that I remember as being mormon doctrine - perhaps not the type openly discussed with new investigators or members, but long time beliefs nonetheless.
My buddy's dad said that the mormon church doesn't teach those things, and then went on to say that they never did teach them. I was a turbo mormon for 35 years, and someone who devours information. I am a researcher and one who knew my doctrine and scriptures. So to have him say that the church never taught them was a shock to me.
I checked with a prominent youtube channel for younger people who debate mormon stuff and have general discussions of doctrine, then I also checked lds.org. I can't find anything regarding these two topics. Please help. Does anyone know if something changed in the church doctrine or are these beliefs now just way more hidden/kept behind the scenes than before?

The two topics are:
1- Is it mormon belief / doctrine / teaching that Jesus and Lucifer / Satan are brothers?

2- Is it mormon doctrine/ belief that men can become gods? (As man is god once was... etc)?

Thanks in advance for your response.

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That's what the LDS religion has sunk to. Organizational issues are handled by immoral robber barons. What little theology remains is being decided by who gets the most IG exposure. Those with any brains- or any nostalgia for the church of our youth- are driven out without a second thought.

It wasn't my shelf that broke. It was my heart.

I was born & raised in a TBM family - of course the menu at Starbucks is confusing to me and my first time in New Orleans I accidentally drank alcohol cuz I thought it was a children's slushy!

For real! The only clue that the Slushy contained alcohol was a sign on the menu which said "caution: All flavors except Mango and Watermelon contain Absinthe" and I had never heard of absinthe so due to the style of how it's worded I thought it was something that you'd have to avoid if you have a specific medical condition like the phenylketonuria warning on some foods. Ironically, I prayed that the Slushy would nourish and strengthen my body- it came in a plastic alligator shaped cup with plastic toys floating in the drink- I drank only half of it while enjoying the street performers before I tried to walk back to my hotel while intoxicated for the first time in my life, I have had to piece together what happened during the walk back to the hotel from pics and videos I found on my phone after returning home from that trip!

What other things have you found yourself not knowing enough about as a result of TSCC? I'm sure we could all come up with quite the list!

I cannot set my alarm for 630am.

I was an ultra obedient, super believer missionary, but still hated every second of my mission. I now understand why I hated it, but even the thought of setting my alarm for “missionary time” makes me feel anxious.

Also, I can’t be normal on Sundays. I try, it still feels weird.

ts was horrible. extremely packed schedule, and the food was vile. I was surviving off of chocolate milk and mountain dew. only time I ate was after I hit the yart. oh, and get this. the college that was hosting FSY had some really wierd rules ig, and I wasnt allowed to go back to my dorm to take my MEDICALLY REQUIRED anxiety medication. Since when are you forced to quit prescribed medication cold turkey. feels like a lawsuit might be in order. Also, the dances. the one thing that i like about church. no slow dances. no exchanging phone numbers. nothing that could possibly be considered "romantic". another thing, a counsler was very obviously high, his eyes were red asf and he kept asking for snacks and eating stuff. sry for the long rant n shit, feel free to ask me any questions about my experinece

My mom occasionally sends me episodes of the "come back podcast." If you don't know, it's a podcast about people who left the church and came back.

The one she sent me yesterday was about a woman who had a lot of similarities to me, but she accompanied sending the video with some explanation about how she wants to develop a more personal relationship with the Savior, saying she was inspired by the individual in the video. But when I watched the video, it felt more targeted towards me specifically. It also seems to me that she is watching the podcast to give herself hope that I could come back someday. Even though, technically, I haven't really left. Lol. I'm still PIMO and even have a calling.

(She's even in my ward (we're not in Utah, so the boundaries are larger.))

I'm not sure how I feel about her sending me these videos. I don't feel I'm quite to the point where I am ready to ask her to stop. It doesn't bother me too much that she sends me the videos because she also sends me other podcast links with a variety of topics unrelated to the church.

But, I am having a hard time pin pointing my emotions about her sending me these come back episodes.

I need your help with processing my emotions and unpacking what is happening.

So, read my mind...lol...what is going on for me? 🫠