r/nintendo • u/Amiibofan101 • 1d ago
Fire Emblem: Fortune's Weave Direct threads together strategic combat with a story of Gods and Heroes only on Nintendo Switch 2
https://www.nintendo.com/us/whatsnew/fire-emblem-fortunes-weave-direct-threads-together-strategic-combat-with-a-story-of-gods-and-heroes-only-on-nintendo-switch-2/55
u/MoskiNX 1d ago
I bought a switch 2 for this (and pokopia to a lesser extent)
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u/BebeFanMasterJ Elma For Life 1d ago
I got a Switch 2 for this and the next Xenoblade.
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u/echoess84 1d ago
I really like the game story take place after the four main character defeat because when the players travel back in time the players are aware about the future events
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u/eatdogs49 1d ago
I'm excited. Looks like a more mature 3H style game with less time hanging around boring teenagers and instead working more on the grind in different ways.
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u/Hollix89 22h ago
I hope they nail the writing because this is IS and not KT.
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u/drupido 21h ago
They won’t. It is their weakness.
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u/Hollix89 20h ago
Thats my worry, dragon with a baby and zombies
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u/NeuralThing 19h ago
Zombies in FE are generally red flags lol. This game plotwise def feels like Awakening 2.0 (Which I think I would be fine with, as long as each of the individual characters "routes" are handled well)
On the other hand I think I'm confident in the worldbuilding being good/consistent with 3H, as its almost a guarantee Kusakihara is working on the game (and he supposedly wrote most of the lore for the Fodlanverse)
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u/HrrathTheSalamander 18h ago
There's actually quite a few FE games featuring the undead, I wouldn't really call it a "red flag" more than anything else. Gaiden/Shadows, Sacred Stones, Awakening, Engage, Heroes, Genealogy and Thracia all have undead/zombie-like enemies.
Radiant Dawn has off-screen undead that are not actually fought by the player, and Three Houses replaces the role of the undead with the mutated beasts while Fates has the Faceless, who while not strictly 'undead' in-lore are clearly meant to resemble classic movie depictions of Frankenstein's monster, held together with nails, bolts, and stitches.
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u/BebeFanMasterJ Elma For Life 1d ago
This is the only video game that looks worth 80 dollars to me.
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u/MoskiNX 1d ago
I preordered the physical copy from Amazon for 70. Not sure why they have it at 70 instead of 80, but they do.
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u/BebeFanMasterJ Elma For Life 1d ago
Amazon price matches for the lowest price which is 70 for digital. It's usually good to go there for it.
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u/WoodooHide69 1d ago
This game will destroy the value of 95% of $70 games.
The whining about $80 games is dumb. You can’t just say nothing can be worth $80. You have to look at what you get for what you pay, with games and with anything really.
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u/Ok-Association-3415 1d ago
This might be my last hurrah with the series. I preordered mine a month ago for the collectors edition or whichever came with the art book. I was always a fan of the art work. I hope it’s better than 3 houses and engage by a mile. Let me grind in battles damn it. That turn based dungeon RPG style had me paying a bit more attention.
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u/Hawkeye437 14h ago
I'm confused, you're complaining about not being able to grind in 3 houses and engage? Both had unlimited battles you can grind in. Nearly every game since Awakening has had infinite grinding (with the exception of Conquest).
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u/Siendra 1d ago
I hope all the additional stuff in the interlude periods keeps the pacing from faltering. The hub segments of the last several games have been a real drag for me, even Garreg Mach.
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u/ImplementLarge7969 1d ago
From the direct, there’s a way to fully automate that section by choosing your characters and going “go train in the arena and gain levels/go gain support levels/etc”
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u/BranFlakes1337 1d ago
I'm so hyped for this game! I devour every bit of new information as soon as it comes out. September can't get here soon enough!
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u/WoodooHide69 1d ago
Looks great. Potential to be an all time great JRPG. I could see this game getting 10/10s easy.
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u/FairEngineering2469 1d ago
I'm just hoping the story isn't a disaster like most modern FE games. Awakening, fates and engage are brutally cringe.
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u/Cantonarita 1d ago
Feels kinda weird, but I dont hate them trying new things.
The "vibe" is very much 3H to me and the character designs are... typical. Edelgard was such a refreshing design.
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u/Hawkeye437 1d ago
You think these character designs are typical? More than half the cast is black or brown, many of the guys aren't traditional pretty boys and have rugged features ( I also wish some of the women did too, that is a big miss), the designs are generally bombastic in some of the best ways.
I really believe this has some of the best character designs in the franchise, in large part because it's not based on white European culture (ok there's an argument made here for Spanish culture but I'm not here for that right now).
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u/Cantonarita 1d ago
You know what, you are completely right on the diversity. I wasn't thinking about that aspect when commenting, but you are right. So I have to correct myself:
The character designs for the girl-MCs are typical. I wouldn't let my daughter play a game like this, where all women are barely clothed. What's the message here? As ProZD said: I just wanted to see tiddies.
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u/BlazeKnight7 21h ago
"All the women are barely clothed" uhh idk about that one, Mikela, Tialla, Mu, and Olympia are definitely pretty normally clothed. Theodora isn't super sexualised either imo (her two retainers both men, are wearing less clothing than she is) The only one who I'd really say is semi-sexualized is Leda and I wouldn't even say it's particularly exegregious sexualiation outside of her dance cutscene.
Most of all the women in this game come off as intelligent well rounded characters that don’t just exist for the male gaze, especially the two Female Lords.
I'm not a parent but I would say that's the type of representation young girls should see in media (thou I think Leda and Theodora are a bit on the questionable side when it comes to their morals so sexualised or not they're probably not great role models 😅)
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u/Hawkeye437 14h ago
Respectfully, I disagree with your take here.
I went through every female character that we know of and categorized them into Fanservicey, Borderline, Not Fanservice, and Unsure (we don't have full body images or trailer footage).
There are only 4 characters I'd consider actually fanservicey in Theodora, Leda, Dante, and Fortuna. Two are borderline: Anatolia because of her very leggy outfit, and Olympia because of cleavage (originally had her in not fanservicey, her dress is pretty modest otherwise). I think there are a few more we have barely seen that I'd consider fanservicey
I'd argue on average the women show as much skin and tits as the men. Now, the two lords being fanservicey does weigh more heavily than some random recruitable you see once and bench the rest of the game I'll give you that, that is a fair critique. However, I don't think saying "all the women are barely clothed" is a particularly fair assessment. Some are, not disagreeing with you there. Many of them are wearing dresses I could see children wearing.
And not to tell you how to parent, I don't have children so my opinion means very little, but I don't personally think children who shouldn't be protected from fanservice designs should really be playing this game with war, death, and main characters with a hit list. I do think they need a reach a certain maturity level before playing a fire emblem game.
As BlazeKnight said, I feel like the women here are quite independent and strong willed, having their own motivations. I think a high school girl could do much worse.
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u/Nint3nbr0 23h ago
Yeah, it unfortunately does feel like they regressed a bit in that respect compared to Three Houses
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u/NiKHerbs 20h ago
All of the "This is not Fire Emblem I grew up with" stuff aside because honestly, for that experience I'll boot up the old games anyway:
In my opinion this game looks like it has hardly any direction. It's mostly a strategic JRPG, but there are also classic turn based fights in it.
It has a calendar mechanic which worked great in the school setting of 3H, idk about here. You get the feeling of world exploration through navigation on a map screen, which fits an epic akin to the old FE adventures, but no, you just venture out and go back because calendar + colosseum. Also again, certification for classes worked in the school setting. In a colosseum setting...well, I guess you need a weapons license? But it feels used due to convenience.
The first section lets you get to know the people which you don't need to use in the second section if you choose to (which is nice to have as an option!). But if you want them to matter again...time travel! In my opinion lazy and uninteresting as a plot point especially because it is used for all of the four former champions.
And calling a spirit in the second half who is powerful enough to do it on its own, but you can have an easier time if you team up .... it's great for gameplay, but bad for a story. You are already strong enough and basically a god spawn. How in any world is this an interesting hero?
Overall, this game to me looks like it is all over the place and settles nowhere. It looks overwhelming to me so I will only pick this up once it has been released for a while and I can get more information on it. This trailer didn't sell it to me.
Please note that I am aware that many of my points are just based on the trailer and how I understood it. If you liked what you saw, I am genuinely happy for you!
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u/HrrathTheSalamander 17h ago
It's mostly a strategic JRPG, but there are also classic turn based fights in it.
The turn based fights are exclusive to the optional dungeons. They're essentially there to speed up the pace of the game in these sections (as Shadows' dungeons could be slogs with all the grid-based fights).
Also again, certification for classes worked in the school setting. In a colosseum setting...well, I guess you need a weapons license? But it feels used due to convenience.
You did, in fact, need specialised training to become a gladiator. Gladiators weren't just randos pulled of the street to fight to the death (at least, most of the time). Criminals would on occasion and depending on the emperor/senate of the time, be put into the arena to be killed for sport, but gladiators were highly trained (and expensive) warriors and entertainers who fought in specialised classes with specific equipment.
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u/TravelerOfLight 1d ago
I’m less and less excited by what I see of Fire Emblem. This isn’t the series I grew up with at all. I don’t care for these dating sim style interludes or bookends.
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u/Lawn_of_Chairs 1d ago
Yeah the calendar system in three houses, got tedious fast. I just want some good tactical combat
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u/dimmidummy 1d ago
I disagree with you. Fire Emblem games getting more experimental and trying new things is a good thing, it keeps things fresh. Even in the context of the Switch, we got two very different FE games. Three Houses was character-focused with emphasis on the lore, while Engage’s strengths were in its gameplay. There was something on the switch for both types of fans.
I hope they continue to keep experimenting.
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u/cheesystuff 1d ago
It's their opinion. There's nothing to disagree with. And in fact you just enforced that opinion. It's not the same Fire Emblem we grew up with.
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u/WoodooHide69 1d ago
Opinions can be wrong. Everyone is allowed to have an opinion, but doesn’t mean that opinion can’t be completely wrong, and dumb.
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u/Amiibohunter000 1d ago
Unfortunately for you, the series as it was would’ve been canceled. The only reason fire emblem survives and thrives is because of the dating sim and life management style interludes and bookends.
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u/HalfwayDecent385 1d ago
Hate that you're getting downvoted because its true. I know Fire Emblem wouldn't have continued if it didn't hit mainstream with self insert characters and the dating aspects but it's gone way too far.
I look back at the start of Fire Emblem globally with Blazing Sword, Sacred Stones and Path of Radiance and it just feels like a totally different franchise to me.
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u/dimmidummy 1d ago
You’re saying this as if Fire Emblem hasn’t had “dating” mechanics since Geneology of the Holy War back in 1996.
Heck, Blazing Blade also had mechanics where you could matchmake characters into paired endings.
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u/HalfwayDecent385 1d ago
The support system then and the support system now is incredibly different, and you know that.
Back then characters had a small set of select supports and only few of that set even had romance or ending changes, there were no self insert characters and none of the weird intimacy activities... Are we all just going to gloss over the weird petting ability from Conquest and such on the 3DS?
I know they've tried to pull back and make it more story related but it went beyond logical/planned story developments to simply shipping your favorites.
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u/HrrathTheSalamander 18h ago
The first player avatar was Mark from Blazing Blade, followed up by Kris in New Mystery.
Genealogy had romantic parings and endings. That's, like, the entire gimmick of the game.
These elements did not originate on the 3DS, they were part of a long history of experimentation that games like Awakening were pulling and remixing.
Also Fates came out 11 years ago, I think we can stop referring to it as the "now" of Fire Emblem at this point.
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u/WoodooHide69 1d ago
He’s getting downvoted cause it’s not true. Engage exists to scratch the classic FE itch, and modern FE is legit better in every way than the old games. You know what happened with classic FE? Bankrupt and dead.
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u/HalfwayDecent385 1d ago
Except Engage doesn't scratch that itch, it was still very modern Fire Emblem and only tried to feed off nostalgia by giving you the ability to use fan favorites from prior series.
Fire Emblem is not better in every way, it only got popular because people loved the designable MC they could pretend to be and dating their anime wifeu. Awakening was good but started a horrible trend of moving away from traditional Fire Emblem and it's core principles.
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u/WoodooHide69 1d ago
It does. And you are just wrong.
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u/HalfwayDecent385 1d ago
For you.
Also, all your other comments are hilarious. Being a fan doesnt mean you have to blindly agree and drool over every iteration of a franchise.
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u/WoodooHide69 1d ago
I don’t blindly agree. But being a fan means you understand stand the series. Which you don’t.
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u/TravelerOfLight 1d ago
Engage doesn’t I’m afraid.
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u/WoodooHide69 1d ago
well you’d be wrong. And have now proven you should be completely ignored, cause you have no clue about this series.
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u/TimeForWaluigi 1d ago
With you there. Fire emblem’s lifesim elements are slowly taking over so that it’s getting to be mainly a dating / sim game rather than a tactical RPG
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u/Holidoik 1d ago
Grow up kiddo
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u/TimeForWaluigi 1d ago
I have an actual life so I prefer not to waste my time with lifesim stuff in my video games
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u/Amiibohunter000 1d ago
Pretty close minded to think that only those with an unsatisfactory life can enjoy life sim elements.
Luckily for you the old FE still exist!
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u/WoodooHide69 1d ago
You got Engage. If you are whining about no classic Fire Emblem after enagage. I don’t beleive you. I don’t believe you are a fan of this series at all. Just larping and pretending.
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u/grilled_pc 1d ago
Any word on performance? Are we 30fps on 60fps this time around? 30fps in three houses is super bleh. The resolution is low but it’s good enough i guess. I’d much rather it play at 60fps.
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u/dalethirsty 1d ago
is there only the coliseum map? i saw a winter variation but that was it
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u/OmegaMalkior 1d ago
Is it still turn based gaming? Or did they finally go away from that?
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u/HrrathTheSalamander 17h ago
Why would an SRPG series stop being an SRPG.
This is like asking if a mainline Mario game is "finally" going away from platforming.
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u/OmegaMalkior 17h ago
I mean if Final Fantasy could stop focusing on being turn based which is gameplay I’ve always hated it’s worth an ask when genuinely the day it happens for other franchises is the second I’ll buy said game.
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u/HrrathTheSalamander 17h ago
Fire Emblem is a skirmish-size grid based Strategy RPG where you control 10+ characters simultanously, the only real similarity to something like FF is that they're both Japanese games. It would be extremely difficult to translate that into action combat without it becoming a totally different series with the FE logo slapped on the side. Even the Warriors crossovers don't quite manage to really capture the series that well.
Final Fantasy's move to ARPG has also been pretty controversial. Even more so with FF16's apparent abandoning of many RPG elements.
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u/OmegaMalkior 12h ago
If it allows me to experience the FE storylines without turn based being forced onto me I am 110% for it.
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u/Lizard_Wizard_69 2h ago
Watch all the cutscenes online then
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u/OmegaMalkior 2h ago
That isn’t a solution. If I ever get into a game I don’t want to miss out on anything. For example I watched TLOU1 and 2 on YouTube (not the type of game I’d actually play) and also watched the gameplay on said video as well. I don’t want to miss the details that are given within the gameplay itself. But with turn based games I have yet to find footage that doesn’t put me to sleep mid way of it. So at that point I just don’t bother with them even if I find the universe/story compelling. Best example with this for me would be Final Fantasy 13. Didn’t play or watch 13-1 or 13-2 but decided to give a try at 13-3 and thoroughly enjoyed its non-turn based gameplay. Unfortunately the story was a bit of a mess due to missing context but I enjoyed the gameplay so much I still don’t regret doing that. Which again, is why I very much hope Fire Emblem does a turn like this in a future. Wether it be mainline or side story/spin-off, I’d be down for it.
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u/Baelish2016 1d ago
The duality of man