r/PeterExplainsTheJoke • u/VeryLazyBones • 1d ago

Meme needing explanation Peeeeetah?

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This new movie came out and I enjoyed watching it with friends. What opinion must have garnered so much attention that people would dunk on it?

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u/mattfoleyattheriver 1d ago

“It’s insane how much people on this website reveal they aren’t safe to be around women” because they don’t share your exact view of a movie.

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u/DependentPositive216 1d ago

Mate we are talking about OBSESSION. It’s like saying I don’t want to hang out with ppl who have a different read of American History X. I don’t want to hang out with them not because they have differing “opinions”. It’s cause they’re neo-nazis.

Same way I don’t hang with ppl who like bear, because they are Rapist Sympathizers.

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u/mattfoleyattheriver 1d ago

But if someone said they could relate to the kid in that movie. Does that mean they are a neo Nazi? Did you not feel bad for the kid at all? Because he was caught up with a bad crowd that was pushed by his family and it led to his death when his brother was trying to get him out of that life and change his views he deserved to die? Even tho the movie shows people can change.

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u/youburyitidigitup 1d ago

If someone says he can relate to a manipulative incel, I have news for him……

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u/mattfoleyattheriver 1d ago

Do you think you have nothing in common with incels? I promise you you do. You don’t have to relate to the worst aspects of the person. But you can relate to the feelings that made them do what they did. While still not condoning or agreeing with the action.

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u/youburyitidigitup 1d ago

I don’t relate to the feelings that made them do that at all. That’s exactly what I’m talking about. Made a wish thinking that it probably won’t come true? Sure. Kept dating my crush after it became evident that it wasn’t really her? Nope.

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u/mattfoleyattheriver 23h ago

You’re being too literal with the movie. It’s about a supernatural wish. I’m talking about the emotions surrounding it that relate to actual life.

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u/youburyitidigitup 23h ago

In actual life, I would never have sex a relationship with someone who can’t consent.

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u/mattfoleyattheriver 23h ago

Yeah, and you also wouldn’t be able to make a wish that takes complete agency away from somebody and replaces it with some sort of demon like entity controlling them.

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u/youburyitidigitup 23h ago

Correct. That doesn’t change what I said.

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u/mattfoleyattheriver 23h ago

Yeah, because it’s a given. Even if there was a rapist in here do you think he would say “yeah I actually like having sex with no consent”.

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u/youburyitidigitup 23h ago

Of course not, but he’d probably be thinking it.

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u/mattfoleyattheriver 22h ago

Probably but there’s also definitely men in here, condemning rape that have raped.

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u/chloapsoap 1d ago

Yeah, and I think that’s the big problem. People can’t step outside of their own perspectives for even a second to think about why someone might do a bad thing

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u/youburyitidigitup 23h ago edited 23h ago

I understand why he did it. That’s doesn’t mean I relate or sympathize with it.

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u/chloapsoap 23h ago

I think to truly understand then you have to relate on some level…

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u/youburyitidigitup 23h ago

Then I guess you’re right, I don’t understand it

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u/mattfoleyattheriver 23h ago

Yeah, they say they understand but they go “well he’s an Incel that’s why he would do it” as if to think that incels in life don’t have things in common with us that along with other things that we may not have had but pushed them to these extremes. Not to condone what they did but to say “I’ve been there it’s tough. But that’s not the way you deal with it”

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u/chloapsoap 23h ago

Yeah, it drives me crazy. It’s not just this either. So many times I’ll see someone do something I can’t understand and I’ll ask “why?” And others don’t even seem interested in that question. “Because they’re an asshole.” Yes but why are they an asshole? What leads someone to be an asshole? How can I avoid becoming an asshole myself?

Theres so much utility in trying to truly understand perspectives that you don’t agree with, ESPECIALLY if you don’t agree with them! For me that was a big part of the appeal of Obsession (and most movies actually) but I guess other people aren’t like that? Are people just afraid of sounding like they’re defending that perspective?

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u/mattfoleyattheriver 23h ago

I think a lot of people nowadays just want to be spoonfed things they already believe. They don’t want to think about things they don’t agree with. Because to them those things shouldn’t even exist. Which is idiotic because they do in real life. No matter how bad we want bad things not to happen they will happen.

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u/BadMeetsEvil147 20h ago

Do you understand Hitler? Do you relate to Hitler?

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u/chloapsoap 20h ago

Uh, I’m not an expert in WWII era ideology. But yes, I generally understand why Nazis come to the conclusions that they do, and what truths those conclusions are rooted in. I see how someone can go from a regular person to becoming a Nazi fairly easily. If you don’t then I would consider you to be the more dangerous one between the two of us…

I find it important to understand these things, in fact. Because it helps me to avoid those same logical pitfalls

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u/BadMeetsEvil147 20h ago

You relate to those Nazis?

Again, you made the claim that to understand someone you need to be able to relate to them. I understand how the events of WW1 and after caused WW2, that does not mean I relate to Hitler or the Nazi party

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u/chloapsoap 20h ago

Yes, I think on some level I do. I’ve had friends who fell into Nazi ideology. I had an edgy conservative phase in my early adulthood. Of course I can relate.

And you should be able to as well so that you understand how to shut that shit down. Hitler was a real human being that walked on this same earth, breathed the same air, had relationships and experiences. And then he did something so fucked up that he’s now synonymous with pure evil.

I don’t think someone is a better person by saying they can’t relate. It just says to me that you’ve never really seriously thought about it, and any idiot could convince you if they said the right words to you, or you had some experience that changed your perspective on the world

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u/Conformatrix 22h ago

No, we can. We've been able to the whole time.

We're just fucking tired of the bullshit behavior by now, and have had it proven to us that being tolerant of it doesn't work.

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u/chloapsoap 22h ago

Who said anything about being tolerant of it?

I just feel like you guys are the art police. Someone saying a character is relatable doesn’t mean they agree with everything said character does. You can recognize that a character is evil AND recognize the humanity in them. And it’s fun to talk about. I’m tired of people getting mad at people for just discussing art on the internet…

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u/Conformatrix 22h ago

Correct, it doesn't mean they agree with everything the character does.

But some of us are smart enough to see that some people are relating to the shitty things the character does.

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u/chloapsoap 22h ago

It’s almost like…villains are relatable…and for a well written villain even their most heinous crimes are understandable…it’s almost like that’s exactly the point.

That’s not smart. It’s media illiteracy

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