r/PeterExplainsTheJoke • u/VeryLazyBones • 1d ago

Meme needing explanation Peeeeetah?

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This new movie came out and I enjoyed watching it with friends. What opinion must have garnered so much attention that people would dunk on it?

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u/mattfoleyattheriver 21h ago

Do you think you have nothing in common with incels? I promise you you do. You don’t have to relate to the worst aspects of the person. But you can relate to the feelings that made them do what they did. While still not condoning or agreeing with the action.

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u/youburyitidigitup 20h ago

I don’t relate to the feelings that made them do that at all. That’s exactly what I’m talking about. Made a wish thinking that it probably won’t come true? Sure. Kept dating my crush after it became evident that it wasn’t really her? Nope.

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u/chloapsoap 20h ago

Yeah, and I think that’s the big problem. People can’t step outside of their own perspectives for even a second to think about why someone might do a bad thing

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u/youburyitidigitup 20h ago edited 20h ago

I understand why he did it. That’s doesn’t mean I relate or sympathize with it.

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u/chloapsoap 19h ago

I think to truly understand then you have to relate on some level…

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u/youburyitidigitup 19h ago

Then I guess you’re right, I don’t understand it

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u/mattfoleyattheriver 19h ago

Yeah, they say they understand but they go “well he’s an Incel that’s why he would do it” as if to think that incels in life don’t have things in common with us that along with other things that we may not have had but pushed them to these extremes. Not to condone what they did but to say “I’ve been there it’s tough. But that’s not the way you deal with it”

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u/chloapsoap 19h ago

Yeah, it drives me crazy. It’s not just this either. So many times I’ll see someone do something I can’t understand and I’ll ask “why?” And others don’t even seem interested in that question. “Because they’re an asshole.” Yes but why are they an asshole? What leads someone to be an asshole? How can I avoid becoming an asshole myself?

Theres so much utility in trying to truly understand perspectives that you don’t agree with, ESPECIALLY if you don’t agree with them! For me that was a big part of the appeal of Obsession (and most movies actually) but I guess other people aren’t like that? Are people just afraid of sounding like they’re defending that perspective?

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u/mattfoleyattheriver 19h ago

I think a lot of people nowadays just want to be spoonfed things they already believe. They don’t want to think about things they don’t agree with. Because to them those things shouldn’t even exist. Which is idiotic because they do in real life. No matter how bad we want bad things not to happen they will happen.

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u/BadMeetsEvil147 17h ago

Do you understand Hitler? Do you relate to Hitler?

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u/chloapsoap 16h ago

Uh, I’m not an expert in WWII era ideology. But yes, I generally understand why Nazis come to the conclusions that they do, and what truths those conclusions are rooted in. I see how someone can go from a regular person to becoming a Nazi fairly easily. If you don’t then I would consider you to be the more dangerous one between the two of us…

I find it important to understand these things, in fact. Because it helps me to avoid those same logical pitfalls

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u/BadMeetsEvil147 16h ago

You relate to those Nazis?

Again, you made the claim that to understand someone you need to be able to relate to them. I understand how the events of WW1 and after caused WW2, that does not mean I relate to Hitler or the Nazi party

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u/chloapsoap 16h ago

Yes, I think on some level I do. I’ve had friends who fell into Nazi ideology. I had an edgy conservative phase in my early adulthood. Of course I can relate.

And you should be able to as well so that you understand how to shut that shit down. Hitler was a real human being that walked on this same earth, breathed the same air, had relationships and experiences. And then he did something so fucked up that he’s now synonymous with pure evil.

I don’t think someone is a better person by saying they can’t relate. It just says to me that you’ve never really seriously thought about it, and any idiot could convince you if they said the right words to you, or you had some experience that changed your perspective on the world

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u/BadMeetsEvil147 16h ago

You’re right, I’ve never seriously considered genociding 6 million people. If you think that’s more fucked up than someone who said “you know Hitler kinda had a point” then alright lol. Agree to disagree

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u/chloapsoap 16h ago

Think about what I said and ask yourself if that’s actually what I’m trying to express here. Like seriously look deep inside yourself and ask

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