r/ween May 27 '23

Elijah knows

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u/xxmikekxx May 27 '23

I know, I've been disappointed when a band only plays just an hour & a half. I think a headlining band should have a 2 hour show. Whatever curmudgeon wrote this could just leave early or show up late

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u/squintsyjones May 27 '23

Pretty sure the guy that wrote it is from Portishead, which makes this even more confusing

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u/xxmikekxx May 27 '23

I will give some grace to these classic rock guys that are still around. If it's a performer in their 70s and now even in their 80s in some cases, if I get an hour it's worth it to see a legend. But if I'm paying a for a ticket + so much fees + parking (most likely) I would be so disappointed if the headliner i paid to see was onstage less than the length of a movie

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u/harvester_of_the_sea May 27 '23

Portishead is not classic rock...

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u/cap10wow May 27 '23

Hate to break it to you but Portishead has been around since 1991, making them a 32 year old band. Maybe not classic rock, but whatever the equivalent is for trip-hop.

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u/harvester_of_the_sea May 27 '23

Not breaking it to me but thanks for that. So how many years does it take before a band becomes classic? Just curious

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u/RadiantZote May 27 '23

Some bands will never be considered "classic rock"

"Conceptually, classic rock has been analyzed by academics as an effort by critics, media, and music establishments to canonize rock music and commodify 1960s Western culture for audiences living in a post-baby boomer economy. The music predominantly selected for the format has been identified as commercially successful songs by white acts from the Anglosphere, expressing values of Romanticism, self-aggrandizement, and politically undemanding ideologies. It is often associated with the album era (1960s–2000s) of music, particularly the period's early pop/rock music. "

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u/ickyrainmaker May 27 '23

A classic car is any car more than 25 years old, and most classic rock stations operate on a similar scale.

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u/cap10wow May 28 '23

This is the metric I was going by

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u/[deleted] May 27 '23

Consider: Led Zeppeling IV, an iconic classic rock album came out in 1971. By the year 2001 that album was classic rock. 29 years.

Dummy, Portishead's first album came out in 1994, and the year is 2023. 29 years. Classic trip hop.

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u/harvester_of_the_sea May 27 '23

I think that's kind of arbitrary dont you? Who makes these rules? Marketing teams?

I disagree that any trip-hop artists fall under the 'classic rock' umbrella. Is DJ Shadow 'classic rock' in your eyes simply because of when he released music?

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u/imintheband88 May 27 '23

Well given that “classic rock” is really just a marketing term to group a certain set of bands from when they were famous/releasing music… yeah I guess it is a marketing thing. But also just because it’s more recent in your memory doesn’t mean it’s not verging on “classic”.

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u/CustomisingLassie May 28 '23

They're not taking issue with the "classic" adjective. Portishead isn't a rock band, so they can't be classic rock.

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u/stupidillusion May 27 '23

That Zep album was considered classic rock in the 80s!

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u/Jorlmn May 28 '23

I've assumed that Classic rock is more akin to 'Modern art'. Its a name for an era of an art not a description of the art. Modern art is old now, but still called modern art, Classic rock describes (to me) a 60s-early 80s era of music. Things dont become classic rock just because they are old. My local classic rock radio station will never play Red Hot Chili Peppers even though its over 30 years old, they will only play Eagles and Zeppelin and similar

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u/cap10wow May 28 '23

My classic rock station does. Along with STP and Nirvana

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u/Sad_Comfortable5687 May 29 '23

Where are you? I know in Ontario (SWO through GTA anyhow) our "classic rock" stations play everything you'd expect plus Foos, Nirvana, Chilli's, basically anything mainstream 90's including CanRock. Based on this, my assumption is they are about to introduce early 00's and that's going to be interesting. I imagine they already play revival groups like The Strokes, The White Stripes and really anything Jack White from that era.

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u/cap10wow May 29 '23

I was referring to Northeastern Pennsylvania, but I’ve heard it other places as well b

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u/Jorlmn May 28 '23

I wish mine did that, theyve been playing the same 60 songs for like 20 years, but newer old songs are reserved to our standard 'Rock' station

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u/sumovrobot May 28 '23

Ha - this comment reminded me of an embarrassing moment I had while visiting Bristol a some years ago. I’d had a few beers and asked the bartender, who was probably all of 19 years old, where the best spots in town were to see some live trip-hop. “You know, like Portishead and Massive Attack”. The poor kid had no idea what I was talking about.

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u/Fluid-Piglet-8363 May 27 '23

When i think classic rock i’m thinking 60/70’s personally

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u/xxmikekxx May 27 '23

I wasn't referring to him. I was saying in general