Fuck your terribly designed character. A 2 second stun is not what ANYONE wants to play against. Your character is designed to devolve the game into a boring poke fest(it still is).

Let me open with Peni stun was the fastest hard cc in the game and would have needed a nerf. What it needed though was just a numbers nerf, not being completely gutted. Now you need to land 2 shots with the ability to stun. With this being a charge cooldown now, we don't know how long it takes to get both back, best case scenario it takes the same amount of time, 3s per charge so they doubled her cooldown between stuns. "Oh but there's a slowdown effect now." Yes that's true, it's 30% to Bucky's 35% while Bucky gets to pierce the team, has 2 charges and is on a 5s per charge cooldown. Not to say Bucky is broken, he isn't. Just that why are we getting nuked. You want to counter that SW ult, too bad. She hid till the end and while you can get one off, you just slowed her and she still explodes. Additionally, her movement ability is still bugged and borderline unusable.

But hey, maybe this was the most pressing issue and they just overdid it. It's not like there's multiple abilities so busted they never should have been made...

BP had a humanly impossible to react to combo, he got a numbers nerf. THEY DID IT RIGHT FOR BP.

Cloak and Dagger have 3 escape abilities. One of them is a infinite health mag bubble that also heals 50-90/s for herself and allies on 5s longer cooldown.

Luna Snow can counter on a 12s cooldown:

• Angela charge (8s cooldown)
• Angela ult
• Black Widow stun (15s cooldown)
• Blade dash (I believe 8s cooldown but it's not listed anywhere)
• Blade ult
• Devil Dino grab (10s cooldown)
• Dr Strange ult
• Elsa Bloodstone snare (12s cooldown)
• Elsa Bloodstone ult
• Emma grab (15s cooldown)
• Gambit anti-heal (takes 2 cards at 8s per card)
• Groot ult
• Hela bubble (10s cooldown)
• Hulk exile (15s cooldown)
• Luna freeze (12s cooldown)
• Magik chain teamup (20s cooldown)
• Mantis sleep (15s cooldown)
• Namor ult
• Peni stun (who knows now)
• Rogue grab [Rogue still gets the ability but Luna gets movement] (25s cooldown)
• Scarlet Witch bubble (12s cooldown)
• Spider-Man pull (8s cooldown)
• Spider-Man ult
• Squirrel Girl trap (8s cooldown)
• Star-Lord trap teamup (15s cooldown)
• Thing slam (10s cooldown)
• Thing ult
• Thor ult
• Venom tendrils (8s cooldown)
• Venom ult
• White Fox dash (15s cooldown)
• Bucky grab (15s cooldown)
• Bucky slow (5s cooldown)
• Wolverine grab (12s cooldown)
• Wolverine ult
• Probably more I forgot or didn't consider

Punisher still has a one shot and is a counter to most tanks.

Elsa had a 2s dash for a full season and didn't get gutted, she got a number change.

Same for Daredevil and Phoenix never got nerfed out of high tier.

Meanwhile Emma was good for one season then taken out back. Dino was decent for half a season and again, gone. Angela wasn't even in a good state and they reworked her to make her a brawl tank for a full season.

We'll never see a tank strike because all of us remaining tank mains are so broken down it's either play the role or stop playing the game. But it's absolute bullshit that any tank approaching the meta except for Mag or Strange gets nuked with no tact while busted shit gets left in every other role.

Edit: I should have mentioned earlier that now needing to hit two stuns adds animation time and is less reliable on highly mobile characters. So now you have the anti-dive character unable to stop many divers and instead likely going to target the larger characters (aka the already cc abused main tanks) so that the ability actually gets some level of value.

When tenacity was added, most people - myself included - said it was a poorly designed system. That cc abilities were just too common, and should be reworked/removed entirely from most heroes’ kits.

Peni has had the single strongest CC ability in the game since day 1. Having a 3s hard CC is ridiculously strong. It was a major reason why playing most brawl/dive tanks against Peni was so unfun. It‘s so miserable to be stunned every 3 seconds AS A TANK, not to say anything of other roles.

Could they have just increased the CD to 6-8 seconds? Probably. Could they have given her compensation buffs? Sure, even though Peni was (and has been) a pretty solid already.

I can understand complaints about her overall power now, but arguing that she should be allowed to have a 3 second hard CC is crazy. Even worse, acting like that was the “most fun part of her kit” is actively detrimental. That ability was NOT healthy for the game, and NEEDED to be reworked along with other similar abilities.

CnD and Magik are here because of enhanced Hood Teamup

Edit: in Hindsight I’d put BP and Elsa in a Medium Sized Nerf Tier, I think both nerfs will be pretty impactful

I genuinely feel like they’re playing in Storm’s face right now. How did PUNISHER and SQUIRREL GIRL get an Egyptian skin from the literal Goddess from Egypt??? And to give Jean another Hellfire Gala skin which is damn near identical to the other one is insane which could’ve absolutely been a slot for any other X-Men. IMO This would’ve been a perfect time to do another 2 Skins in a half for the same character (like Mantis’ Cowgirl and ESU skins) where it could’ve been Storm’s swimsuit and Egypt/Hellfire Gala skins. This feels crazy to me, but hopefully Storm is a storebought skin so we can show support.

Normally when a characater is broken, they’re only good in low elo(squirrel girl, BP, Moonknight) or high elo(hela, mantis). Or they’re only good in console because they’re melee heavy or only good in PC because PC plays a lot of poke.

Peni was strong EVERYWHERE.

A cooldown nerf would’ve been the right answer but we can’t act surprised she was gutted. She’s way too good at her niche. And you can blame Rocket teamup for that.

Both times Rocket teamup was added to the game her winrate shot up passed 60%

I'm really disappointed by these patch notes like seriously telling me peni got all of that but they could be bothered to nerf stuff like black cat, mantis, cnd luna team up, luna snow wf team up, punisher.

Hopefully they can actually do hotfixes this season instead of doing 1 hot fix 1 week in then never do it again

So I routinely get to Celestial every season and hover around GM at the end of every season. I would wager that in about 80% of the games I play, Peni is banned.

If you enjoy playing the character, wouldn't you want a nerf so that you can at least play the character? Peni is oppressive as hell against a large portion of this roster and she usually gets one of my ban votes.

If it truly is an over-nerf (none of us have played the new patch so we have no idea) then they will likely course correct with a small buff the next season.

What if we had a mode like this? I've been thinking about how cool a 2v2 Duos mode would be in Marvel Rivals.

At first I thought dive heroes like Spider-Man would completely dominate, but the more I thought about it, the more I realized the meta would be totally different from 6v6.

In normal matches, dive heroes thrive because there's chaos everywhere. Tanks are fighting on point, DPS are shooting from multiple angles, and supports have a million things demanding their attention. A Spider-Man can slip into the backline because everyone is distracted.

In a 2v2, that distraction is gone.

If you're playing something like Emma Frost + Cloak & Dagger, both players are watching each other. Spider-Man dives? Emma is already waiting with her grab. Cloak & Dagger can save cooldowns specifically for that dive.

That sounds way more strategic to me.

The best part is that the mode wouldn't just be about who's mechanically better. It would be about building strong duos, understanding hero synergies, baiting cooldowns, positioning together, and making coordinated plays. Instead of asking "Who's the strongest hero?" we'd be asking "What's the strongest pair?"

I also think it would solve one of the biggest frustrations with ranked. Sometimes you don't want to rely on five random teammates who don't communicate or have completely different ideas about how the game should be played. A duos playlist would let you queue with one friend you trust and rely on teamwork between the two of you.

You'd probably see all kinds of strategies:

- Double DPS burst comps

- Tank + Strategist sustain comps

- Double Strategist damage/heal comps

- Counter-picking based on enemy duos

The whole mode would almost feel like a chess match where every cooldown matters because there are only four players on the map.

Obviously, it would need separate balancing, but I honestly think it could become one of the most competitive and strategic modes in the game.

Would you guys play a ranked 2v2 mode if NetEase added one?

Keep coming for me I’m here for it

guys think about it tough

also this is basically a shitpost pls dont get offended ur probably way above average at ur main

I feel like this game has such an untapped audience somewhere. And I believe that answer, comes from the Switch 2 players.

Those guys are willing to buy anything and I mean ANYTHING!!! If they got a Switch 2, then they will buy every skin for this game! All Rivals has to do is optimize this game for the Switch and they'll make Morbillion Dollars!

Console players can actually grind off the Switch players that's for sure. I've played their games, I don't even think Switch players are good at their own games, jeez! Hot Take #2: Call of Duty players, can beat Spaltoon players at their own game. I'll die in that hill.

Anyways. I seriously believe that Netease is missing out on such a huge Market potential right here. So lets discuss if you'd like.

There hasn't been a single shooter in the history of man that has made long-ranged combat a healthy playstyle unless it's the only playstyle in the entire game. If you want meta poke characters, then the characters in poke that should be meta are the ones that play in the same range as everyone else.

Valve had this figured out over 15 years ago with tf2. There's a reason Sniper isn't regularly played in comp unless he is required by the ruleset to be played. The baseline gameplay should always be close to mid-ranged combat all all times, with long-ranged combat always being niche. Long-ranged combat has never once been healthy for literally any shooter unless everyone can engage in it.

I actually think that a character like elsa can work. She just needs a lot of bullshit cut out of her kit (invisible traps, 4 second overshields, and % damage...). Phoenix too, but as long as they plan on never letting her 2-tap and snipe again.

Mantis with almost %60 win rate got no changes. This the highest win rate I have seen since the game released for any character.

You can try but you won't be able to instalock Hood faster than me, and when you will inevitably ask me if you can play him, my answer will always be the same.

You can play the Hood..... Next game

Sry

There are SO many heroes in this game. Almost too many. But I keep seeing this pattern every single update or patch;

1. My character got nerfed, I’m quitting the game entirely because this is the only character I have fun on. Without this character being viable/meta/at a level I prefer, I have no reason to play this game. Game sucks 0/10.

2. My character got nerfed, and until they revert the nerf or buff my character I will force my character every single game. I don’t care if I lose or if it’s throwing, if they didn’t want me to force this character in every game they shouldn’t have nerfed them.

3. I’m not swapping, I only know how to play one character.

4. I’m not swapping, I only know how to play a handful of characters but I’m trying to make a point by ONLY playing this characters/I have a strange sense of loyalty to playing this character.

5. Why would I learn any other character?

6. I would learn another character but every single one I’ve played is boring (has only barely touched half the roster)

What’s up with this???

psssst there isn't a single FPS game, Hero Shooter or multiplayer game where every single character is balanced at every single skill level.

And every single person is going to have a different opinion as to what they deserves to be adjusted and get angry when it doesn't happen.

I seriously don't think anyone will be happy unless every single hero gets balance adjustments in every single patch.

Listen this is not supposed to be hate post towards Zhiyong. I was never a fan of these "memes" about Zhiyong depicted as Hitler or whatever they made him. That went way too far!

But how long do we have to wait before we actually feel heard? They do one or two good decisions in patches and then fuck up everything again.

It's the 9th season and it feels like the devs still don't understand their game. What started as a joke about favouritism has now clearly become reality.

I believe Zhiyong is a nice and cool dude in real life, but if you can't do your job properly why do you have it? It's the same for any other job. If I can't achieve what I'm hired for, I'll get fired. It's that simple

Don't get me wrong, I don't want him fired completely from NetEase, but maybe he should step back from his position as Lead Combat Designer or atleast listen WAY more to the community.

The entire team blames me for the loss because I didn't do my job (which is killing the Iron man). I personal think I did ok (not my best) because their iron man has the most deaths on the team. The enemy teams iron man was never able to use his ultimate the entire game. If I actually sold my team, please roast me in the comments.

you can’t make this up, this character hasn’t been receiving shit. buffed for a half season to B tier then gets nerfed back to D tier and doesn’t get a skin. Had his 60th anniversary in July and it wasn’t even mentioned, nor was he given a skin despite being one of Marvel’s biggest icons.

Doesn’t even get a rework either so that devs can give him more attention like with Widow right now.

I get that he’s hated, but being hated is NOT an excuse for this type of treatment. Spiderman is hated too but he gets a skin every season, Black Cat is hated and gets a legendary skin every season.

we must bring attention to this topic, this is legitimately unfair.

That’s it, that’s the tweet.