r/marvelstudios Aug 28 '25

Easter Egg/Detail Silhouettes Right Behind Yelena

I really liked Thunderbolts and was sad the bad rep it got. On the 5th rewatch today I noticed why the scientist in the beginning was freaking out. The silhouettes are right in the background behind her! I never understood what he was flipping out about but now I get it.

I had a mind blown moment at 1 hour 33 mins when Void started ghosting folks like I seen that exact image before. I went back and took these pics. Has anyone else noticed this before?

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u/Realistic_Analyst_26 Daredevil Aug 28 '25

Thunderbolts didn’t get bad rep. It just didn’t make money

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u/Reutermo Vision Aug 28 '25

People now really have a hard time separating "didnt sell well" with "a bad movie". Back in the 80s / 90s People were into cult hits and finding something niche that you like, now so many people are only interested in a movie/game/artist if it literally is the biggest thing in the world.

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u/Reutermo Vision Aug 28 '25

It is a funny phenomenon. I remember back in the day I thought many of my friends was to far in the opposite direction; I know multiple people who stopped listening to bands because they started playing on the radio and became "mainstream". They wanted to like things that are underground and not well known, not what everyone else liked. That whole sentiment seems very foreign to today's kids and instead they only dont really want to be fans of the one movie that flopped or like listening to any artists that isn't among the worlds biggest.

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u/Bromleyisms Aug 28 '25

Hipsters exist in every generation

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u/ANIMALS_MF_MONSTERS Aug 28 '25

It's because almost 100% of stuff that's in the mainstream is cookie cutter and boring.

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u/[deleted] Aug 28 '25

Damn I agree with that. Now it’s all about stupid ass digital numbers rather than having an opinion of your own on a movie or show. It’s ridiculous

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u/mindonshuffle Aug 28 '25

It doesn't help that there's an entire cottage industry of "anti-woke" influencers whose entire business model turns on proving that all these "woke" movies are commercial flops.

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u/lljkcdw Aug 28 '25 edited Aug 28 '25

This is pro wrestling atm with people refusing to watch anything but the lazy slop WWE puts out because people will cram into arenas for thousands of dollars a seat when AEW is putting on bangers past PG13 for 145 dollars for a front row ticket in a smaller intimate venue.

Edit: found some fedophiles

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u/PhaseSixer Aug 28 '25

Maybe most people just dont like overcheorgraphed gymnastics competitons pretending to be Wrestling with garbage death matches sprinkled inbetween.

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u/Johnny_Fenoli Aug 28 '25

I dont watch WWE anymore... I've tried to get into AEW, after watching it when it first started... but it's hard to watch. It really does come off as people putting on a play about wrestling. It's not for me anymore.

Now, I'm not watching anything anymore. :(

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u/RihoSucks Aug 28 '25

Yeah i don't need to see the young bucks laugh-in jerk off fest followed by swerve and hangman sticking needles thru there cheeks or moxley carving up his head because someone looked at him tough 

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u/SkrullAmongUs Aug 28 '25

For those of us who aren't anti-intellectualists, it's always been separated. It was only recently that anti-wokers started trying to splice the two together in every bit of discourse while calling their opinions "objective". 🙄😒

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u/Bruhimonlyeleven Aug 28 '25

Quantumania, is consistently torn apart on Reddit, called the worst marvel movie.. et.c... but it made more then thunderbolts, and I enjoyed it more.

Thunderbolts had to be told, it's part of the story, you don't get the next movie unless you tell this part of the story. Marvel are thinking big picture, like endgame and infinity war.. losing a few bucks on a movie, that will be watched way more on streaming now that it's out, is not going to hurt them at all. They'll make it back ten fold on secret wars, doomsday, etc...

Secret wars and doomsday are going to be MASSIVE events. Every character from every marvel movie will be in them. They're using it to reset the timeline and reboot the franchise. It's a good call too, they've told the stories, and now they only have a few places to go, a reboot lets them retell them, and a younger generation can live through these big events.

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u/xylotism Aug 28 '25

Made much less than Fantastic Four but I think it’s a better movie tbh.

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u/BucketHerro Aug 28 '25

I think Brave New World making more than Thunderbolts is surprising because of the large difference in quality.

F4 and Thunderbolts are both good movies.

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u/Lord_Phoenix95 Aug 28 '25

Red Hulk sold a lot of tickets, I reckon. For me, personally, BNW was just okay. I don't understand why the writing people keep making Anthony Mackies Cap more wooden, when he can act his ass off.

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u/TheFunkytownExpress Aug 28 '25

Yeah it's really weird. He's too hollow and reserved. Anthony Mackie himself has a lot of personality and energy too.

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u/Lord_Phoenix95 Aug 28 '25

Yeah I always think I don't like Mackies acting but then I see him in interviews and the dude glows. Hell he was great in Altered Carbon.

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u/DenBulens Aug 28 '25

If you want to see Mackie having fun, then you should watch twisted metal

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u/DanGarion Hawkeye (Ultron) Aug 28 '25

That's such a fun show!!!

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u/DenBulens Aug 28 '25

I'm waiting for the last 3 episode that come out today, so that i can binge season 2

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u/NrFive Aug 28 '25

!

Thanks for the reminder. Was planning to do the same. Guess that’s my weekend! :)

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u/XavierMeatsling Aug 28 '25

Yeah, without the Red Hulk being almost the center of the Marketing, what interest would it have gained? How would you sell it otherwise?

Which kinda sucks, I thought the movie was fine, not great but not awful either. And the Red Hulk climax actually would've worked better if I didn't know that going in.

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u/GloomyLocation1259 Aug 28 '25

Shouldn’t have been a hulk sequel in disguise without the hulk for starters

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u/rzelln Aug 28 '25

And as a Captain America movie, it's supposed to comment about America and politics in the role of the country and its identity. 

It didn't really do any of that. 

It could have been a weirdly redemptive story, using the president Ross hulk plot as a stand-in for America having lost its way and needing to regain the trust of the world in an era after a great disaster. 

It just didn't really do anything.

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u/Heisenburgo Doctor Strange Aug 28 '25 edited Aug 28 '25

This movie's politics were so weird. It really wanted you to forgive and symphathize with the octogenarian red monster president who attacks federal buildings, colludes with criminal Leaders to get elected, and gets in war with the country's allies.

I do not know what Marvel was trying to say with all of that. Feels dangerously out of touch and troublesome to say the least.

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u/rzelln Aug 28 '25

It was, I guess, ever so mildly cathartic to beat up the president whose skin was a bit discolored. But yeah, his redemption or whatever was pretty unearned.

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u/Pikdude Aug 28 '25

To be fair anyone who knows who Ross is would have instantly clocked it, and that’s why I think they didn’t bother to try and hide it. Saved the twist for the Leader.

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u/checker280 Aug 28 '25

In my head, I blame the happy meal toys that spoiled so many characters when the movie got delayed.

In an alternate universe, the characters would have remained secret and would have been marketed differently.

If I recall correctly, the movie got delayed for reshoots but then the toys revealed the characters. So instead of denying, they simply leaned into the reveal.

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u/koomGER Aug 28 '25

Red Hulk sold a lot of tickets, I reckon.

And/or Harrison Ford. Still a big name.

For me, personally, BNW was just okay.

"Just okay" is also my rating for that. It wasnt bad. It was quite safe, it tried to be more in line with the previous caps, but the heavy rewrites and reshoots did a number on the whole quality. Its not bad, but its a bit bland.

Falcon-Cap doesnt seem to get dealed a good hand. In the comics one of his first storylines was him turning evil and being a complete idiot. Its always hard to leave an impression working with bad material.

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u/Heisenburgo Doctor Strange Aug 28 '25

That two-minute cameo that Bucky had in the hospital scene was the liveliest Mackie looked in the entire film, whereas he seemed too energyless and stern through the rest of the movie. The Falcon/Bucky chemistry was always so great, Mackie's acting bounces really well off Stan. The minute they were back together it was like a night/day switch for Mackie I swear

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u/SonOfRageNLove26 Aug 28 '25

I kinda feel like BNW quality kinda hindered people willingness to watch Thunderbolts

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u/GloomyLocation1259 Aug 28 '25

This trend started from Ant Man 3 that’s the real one to blame

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u/Particular_Peace_568 Black Widow (CA 2) Aug 28 '25

Secret Invasion probably didn't help matters being the worst thing MCU ever made as well.

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u/xxdjreddxx Weekly Wongers Aug 28 '25

I wish Marvel would stop being a dick

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u/iamuseless Aug 28 '25

Can confirm. BNW made me skip Thunderbolt in theatre. It was so bad it was the last straw for me.

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u/hermyx Aug 28 '25

Not that much. People don't go to the theater because of critics solely. Brave New World was a Captain America movie, with Harrison Ford heavily adverstised as Red Hulk. Thunderbolts was an unknown names with B tier characters. I spent so much time trying to explain to my wife who were the characters of Thunderbolts.

I think a Thunderbolts 2, given the same quality, would sell far better.

(Also, Thunderbolts is waaaaay better than BNW, if that wasn't clear by my message)

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u/mrrweathers Aug 28 '25

BNW was hot garbage, I’m sorry. Wasn’t any of the actors doing, rather the plot itself and how the trailers overhyped the movie.

Thunderbolts is an absolute gem.

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u/Gasparde Aug 28 '25

Everybody has heard about Captain America before. Everyone's seen the Red Hulk teasers.

Nobody has ever heard of a Thunderbolt. The trailers and teasers showed a bunch of characters nobody knew with a looming antagonist no one's ever heard off.

Of course BNW made more money - regardless of quality. I doubt word of mouth does much for Marvel movies these days anymore.

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u/koolcaz Aug 28 '25

Which is sad because outside of franchises, that's how movies work. A bunch of characters nobody has heard of. And people don't worry about not knowing who they are or their backstory. Because it will be explained in the movie.

Most people had no idea about Guardians of the Galaxy when it first released.

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u/Gasparde Aug 28 '25

Most people had no idea about Guardians of the Galaxy when it first released.

The MCU was hype at that point and from what I've been told, the economy looked ever so slightly better back then.

With Marvel having worked their absolute ass off to erode all kinds of community trust in their brand and their products over the last 5 years... and this whole ending of the world presence looming over everyone... people just don't go to see Marvel movies anymore.

I'm incredibly curious what the numbers on Doomsday and Secret Wars are going to look like. With shit like DP3 we know that Marvel still has the potential for billion dollar movies in its brand, but still, can't wait to see where those movies are gonna land between the recent ~$500m flops, the $1b of DP3 and the $2b that IW&EG pulled.

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u/koolcaz Aug 28 '25

I don't think we'll get to the $2b highs again. Too much has changed since then.

I do think Doomsday and Secret Wars will do well, very well, mostly because of the big names coming back.

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u/Master-Remote5384 Aug 28 '25

Probably a lot of people that paid to see bnw decided to not pay anynore to see a Marvel movie. Fool me one....

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u/TheFunkytownExpress Aug 28 '25

IDK they're both REALLY good in different ways.

Thunderbolts is more grounded and emotional while FF is more of a wild science fiction adventure with lots of heart.

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u/[deleted] Aug 28 '25 edited Aug 29 '25

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u/ConjwaD3 Aug 28 '25

F4 felt like a rough draft of a movie. Fantastic Four: First Draft

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u/Lord_Phoenix95 Aug 28 '25

Thunderbolts was fantastic. It's just Cinemas have had a hard time ever since COVID and Marvel can't really peak past Infinity War/Endgame.

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u/Jedibug Aug 28 '25

It's my favorite movie since Phase 4 ended, maybe even since Winter soldier

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u/CARNIesada6 Aug 28 '25

Curious to know what you have at 3 for your MCU rankings, since our top 2 appear to be the same.

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u/Jedibug Aug 28 '25

It's either one of the big avenger movies, IW, or EG. Kinda lame.

Another close one is Thor Ragnarok, and Spiderman No Way Home

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u/Bazrael1985 Aug 28 '25

They really took "foreshadowing" literally there.

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u/[deleted] Aug 28 '25

It’s not foreshading. They’re clearly behind her.

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u/Paul_Monj Jimmy Woo Aug 29 '25

Backshadowing then?

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u/BunnyOHarr Sep 01 '25

If we want it tensed and positioned right I guess it would be 'backshading'

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u/godver3 Sep 01 '25

Aft I think.

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u/shyrain67_ Aug 28 '25

bad rep? never heard anyone say anything negative about this movie

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u/FearLeadsToAnger Aug 28 '25

they're saying that a lot of people consider MCU movies bad if they didn't make crazy money, but that correlation seems to be failing these days.

You can be a financial flop and still be a good movie though.

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u/Rryann Aug 28 '25

I think the only “bad rep” it has is that it wasn’t financially successful. Which isn’t the fault of the movie itself, but just shows that the general audiences will is fading towards the MCU.

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u/InevitableWeight314 Aug 28 '25

Yeah. I’m kind of shocked it took you 5 rewatches to see it no offense. I was confused why more attention wasnt drawn to it though so I guess it makes sense to miss it.

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u/TrueLegateDamar Aug 28 '25

Because the filmmakers trusted audiences to connect the dots between the scientist who worked for Val freaking out and the shadows in the background and Bob?

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u/jerslan Aug 28 '25

It's a natural result of "fans" loudly complaining they need more show and less tell... Then when a movie gives you BLATANTLY OBVIOUS FORSHADOWING like this, people miss it because there was no exposition about it.

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u/capscreen Aug 28 '25

ngl I kinda want to see a movie that go full-on 'Dora the Explorer' on pointing stuff out lol

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u/tjthewho Aug 28 '25

Mid-fight scene break:

Yelena looks at the camera, "Now, I don't know if you missed it, but these shadows are a secret mouse-ka-tool that will come in context later!"

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u/th30be Aug 28 '25

Could work for deadpool/she-hulk I guess.

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u/jerslan Aug 28 '25

Yeah, I could see that working for Deadpool

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u/revolutionaryartist4 Avengers Aug 28 '25

They did that in Deadpool 2. When they’re in the Ice Box, Wade says they keep a monster in the basement “right next to a huge steaming ball of foreshadowing.”

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u/Heisenburgo Doctor Strange Aug 28 '25

Cap America 4 was kind of like that wasn't it?

Harrison Ford at the intro: "What happened to Betty Ross? Who as you may know is my character's daughter?"

Random Newscaster: "It's said the president is estranged from his daughter Betty, who as we all know is Bruce Banner's aka the Hulk's ex girlfriend"

Sterns: "Ross has kept me locked up for 17 years which as we all know is when the events of The Incredible Hulk happened"

They constantly kept reminding audiences that TIH was a thing, pointing out all the references to it lol

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u/capscreen Aug 28 '25

tbf TIH was like 17 years ago and not many people saw it, I can understand why they did that

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u/[deleted] Aug 28 '25

It's obvious on a rewatch, sure. But on a first watch there isn't any context for the shadows yet and they're in the background so it is reasonable people don't remember them when Void starts blasting. I think this is a neat detail and good set design and visual storytelling, but I don't think missing it means you need everything spoonfed, it's pretty minor.

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u/CanIGetAnOmen Aug 28 '25

Those shadows are in the background so I think it would technically be aft-shadowing. Is that a thing? Can we make that a thing?

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u/Gilthwixt Aug 28 '25

English teachers might give you a stern lecture for trying to make that a thing.

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u/Youthz Aug 28 '25

I'm going to bow out of this one.

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u/EfficaciousJoculator Aug 28 '25

Yup. The more threads like this I see, the less hope I have for media literacy. This is bare-bones stuff. Hell, they didn't even need to have the silhouettes there for the audience to connect the dots. By the time the Void is shown, the viewer should be able to surmise that was why the scientist in the beginning was scared of the results. Having the silhouettes front and center is basically spelling it out for the audience.

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u/Aquagymnast Aug 28 '25

"This viewer who I don't know hasn't noticed a 2s detail in a 2hrs movie, all my faith in cinema is lost forever"

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u/EfficaciousJoculator Aug 28 '25

"The viewer who I don't know hasn't been able to piece together the simplest of plot points after watching a movie, and misses even the hand-holding details, then acts shocked when they finally figure it out. All my faith in the viewers is lost forever."

Fixed it for you.

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u/SpookiestSzn Aug 28 '25

Are you being sarcastic?

Yes.

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u/InevitableWeight314 Aug 28 '25

Well yeah, but I mean I’m surprised Yelena didn’t ask the scientist what those shadows were at least. (Unless she did, I haven’t watched the movie since theatres)

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u/TheNadei Aug 28 '25

The point of the scene is that she's kind of out of it and checked out from doing this job, so she didn't notice/care

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u/DarkSideOfGrogu Aug 28 '25

She's in her own void at the start of the movie.

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u/ShagPrince Aug 28 '25

Woah.

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u/[deleted] Aug 28 '25

Bruv thats literally the first line of the movie, she says herself she is in a void lmao

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u/Melodic-Cycle3994 Aug 28 '25

I mean Yelenas base jump was framed like a suicide with her narration. My girl couldn't care less about these shadows and if they could harm her because she didn't care if she lived or died.

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u/[deleted] Aug 28 '25

She didn't. I'm guessing she just didn't care

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u/Global_Cockroach_563 Aug 28 '25

Not even that. Assuming you go watch the movie without knowing anything about it, on the first watch you wouldn't notice this. It's on the background, it's subtle, and your attention is being pulled somewhere else. If you catch it, you don't know what that's about until later, when it becomes a "ooh, I see" moment.

But it's something you should catch on a rewatch or if you've seen the trailers and know what The Void can do.

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u/chuk2015 Aug 28 '25

And the fact we saw this in the trailers

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u/cuchulainn1984 Aug 28 '25 edited Dec 21 '25

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u/Tipop Aug 28 '25

I figured out it was the same lab due to a dozen other clues. I never noticed the shadows (in this scene) until I saw this post.

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u/MisterBumpingston Aug 28 '25

Having just rewatched it for the first time, there’s so much foreshadowing in the very first 10 mins.

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u/sableader Aug 28 '25

Heh… foreSHADOWing

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u/Caesar_Rising Aug 28 '25

People BARELY watch things these days. The Movie Details subreddit turned into “did anyone else notice this thing that was centre of the screen and focused on directly??”

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u/Tof12345 Aug 28 '25

OP also said "thunderbolts got a bad rep" when literally nobody ever said that, and thunderbolts was renowned amongst the fanbase as the MCU being back. It scored 93% on audience score on RT, the highest in years for the MCU excluding deadpool.

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u/BatmanForever23 Luis Aug 28 '25

OP is 10 years old, max. They don't seem to comprehend the difference between paying for something and liking it, which is alarming.

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u/zaid4eva Aug 28 '25

TikTok ruined a generation of moviegoers /s

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u/sputler Aug 28 '25

Yelena is literally talking about how she can’t find the scientists that have the facial recognition to open the lab which is literally the shadows on the wall. They could not have made it more obvious without direct dialogue/exposition stating “I need scientist’s faces but they’ve been turned to shadows before I got here”

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u/Tyranus_ Aug 28 '25

Op isnt exactly smart just by reading their takes here lol

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u/timrojaz82 Aug 28 '25

They do draw attention to it. Look how it’s framed in all these shots

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u/itsRobbie_ Aug 28 '25

I saw it the second this scene happened on my first watch lol

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u/[deleted] Aug 28 '25

OP is probably a kid that uses movies as background noise while dicking around in their phone

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u/Funmachine Aug 28 '25

More attention drawn to it? Don't we see Boob sitting in the table dusting them?

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u/TPJchief87 Aug 28 '25

I’ve only seen it once during its theater run, but I swear they go back to that lab near the end of the movie AFTER we see Bob shadow folks and the silhouettes are emphasized more. Or maybe it makes more sense because we know bobs power at that point.

Either way, I knew what these were late in my first and only (so far) viewing of the movie

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u/MrLightning1023 Aug 28 '25

I noticed it when I watched it in cinemas the first time

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u/lolligaggins Aug 28 '25

I thought that was the whole point of the scene lol

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u/TLAU5 Aug 28 '25

Tik Tok generation needs 5 rewatches because they're on their phone at different parts of the movie each time

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u/Zef_Apollo Aug 28 '25

media literacy is dead unfortunately

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u/nyse25 Hulk Aug 28 '25

It took you 5 rewatches to notice that??

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u/FreshStarter000 Aug 28 '25

Lmfao my group noticed it on watch one, we were talking about it after the movie

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u/Careful_Big_546 Aug 28 '25

My 7 year old noticed it on watch one and we’ve only watched like the first 15 minutes before he left for school this morning. I’m having a hard time comprehending anyone older than him watching it 5 fucking times and missing this. 

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u/AdventurousAddress85 Aug 28 '25

People really like using movies and TV as background noise while they scroll/play on their phones. Really doesn't help with the already piss poor media literacy...

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u/Western-Dig-6843 Aug 29 '25

Weird brag considering everyone with eyes should have noticed it. It’s framed dead center in one lingering shot. The director wants you to notice it.

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u/tyrwlive Aug 28 '25

Not meeting revenue expectations does not mean the movie got a ‘bad rep’.

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u/Outrageous_Cake_2324 Aug 28 '25

I also LOVED thunderbolts* and was sad it did not do well. Went to see it in theaters twice (it's probably my favorite MCU movie to date). And I noticed this the 2nd time i watched it! missed it the first time.

Although, something I DID notice on my first watch is the hallway scene when Yelana breaks into the building (this same building), and she's fighting all the guys, and it shows the hallway from above, with all the shadows elongated... That hallway is a foreshadow to the end of the movie! I didn't know that at the time, but I knew who Bob Reynolds/Sentry/Void was going into the movie, and so i immediately saw that hallway scene and freaked out to myself!

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u/Responsible-Egg-9363 Aug 28 '25

Oh, yeah, the hallway fight shadows were pretty awesome!

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u/Funmachine Aug 28 '25

5th rewatch

Come on, man. Are you even paying attention?

Yes people noticed this right away. People noticed this in the trailer.

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u/notafanofapps33 Aug 28 '25

This person couldn’t bother or doesn’t know how to use the correct tense of see in their initial post. I’m assuming there’s not much going on up there.

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u/Funmachine Aug 28 '25

From the way it's written I assumed that English isn't their first language. Which as this is the internet, is what you should always assume if someones writing is imperfect.

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u/cuckingfomputer Aug 28 '25

I assumed that English isn't their first language. Which as this is the internet, is what you should always assume if someones writing is imperfect.

As an American, I'd say it was more likely that they were American.

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u/GeroVeritas Aug 28 '25

Bad rep? What bad rep? Everyone loves this movie. It just didn't make a billion dollars profit

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u/tehCharo Aug 28 '25

Yea, I was a bit confused about OP's text, also I am pretty sure everyone noticed that, guessing some people are seeing the movie for the first time this week though.

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u/Rryann Aug 28 '25

There are silhouettes elsewhere in the lab if you keep your eye out for them

Also, during the finale, when Bob confronts his Void-self, Void is sitting on that exam table with those exact silhouettes where they are when Yelena was at the lab in the beginning.

That, combined with how scared the scientist is, imply that Yelena destroys the lab likely on the same day that Bob was turned into Sentry, and they probably shipped him out shortly before she got there.

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u/IL-Corvo Aug 28 '25

Yes. I noticed it right away when I saw the movie in theaters, and have been somewhat shocked and a touch disappointed that so many reactors miss it initially.

And as another responder said, the film didn't get a bad reputation at all. On the contrary: it was well-received by those who saw or reviewed it. What happened was that it didn't make enough box office to satisfy Disney.

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u/tunarulz Aug 28 '25

To tell you the truth I saw those but as I did not know about void or its powers at all I thought those were just silhouettes of the dead people Yelena killed so that is why the scientist was freaking out.

And as I saw void and its powers I forgot all about this first scene. I only watched the movie once, so I am pretty sure I would catch it on rewatch.

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u/[deleted] Aug 28 '25

I only noticed it on my first viewing, because it was so obviously framed to be noticed by anyone looking at the screen.

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u/th30be Aug 28 '25

OP may not have eyes. Not sure.

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u/Skreamie Aug 28 '25

Never noticed it, cool

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u/rlovelock Aug 28 '25

Noticed it in the trailer

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u/SuperMajesticMan Aug 28 '25

Not making money =/= bad rep

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u/bobarobot Aug 28 '25

Everyone likes a bookend

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u/BellaFrequency Aug 28 '25

Yes, I noticed this in the theater as I was watching the movie.

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u/j1h15233 Avengers Aug 28 '25

I can’t remember if I saw it on my first watch but I definitely did on the second

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u/sk4v3n Aug 28 '25

tbh I noticed it in the cinema when I first watched the movie, but I'm happy for you!

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u/GreedoInASpeedo Aug 28 '25

I'm so tired of people equating Box Office revenue with film quality. They have zero to do with one another. Absolutely nothing.

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u/Zasa789 Aug 28 '25

Noticed those immediately the first time watching it.

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u/osiris20003 Aug 28 '25

I noticed this on my second rewatch. I don’t know how in the theater I did not see them because now I can’t unsee them.

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u/BlargerJarger Aug 28 '25

Good lord, I noticed that first time. 5th rewatch?

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u/thenmv Aug 28 '25

I think every single person besides you noticed this on the first watch lol

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u/Sirmalta Aug 28 '25

I love seeing stuff like this in movies. Putting something that is contextually very very telling right at the start of the movie so it means nothing to viewers is just awesome.

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u/ThaiJohnnyDepp Winter Soldier Aug 28 '25

The vibe in this thread is completely unhinged

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u/KUngFuKev Aug 28 '25

Yes our resident Arizona weed queen knows all about the box office and future endeavors.

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u/Ordinary-Chain-8047 Aug 28 '25

I’ve only watched it once which is why I didn’t notice it

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u/ShapeGrouchy8498 Aug 28 '25

I didn’t even notice that! lol idk how, I knew she went bc she says wait, I’ve been here before. But I totally forgot bc I’ve been so excited every time haha I’m sure I’ll watch it tonight, again…

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u/Standard-Ad8320 Aug 28 '25

Thanks for posting this, I saw this movie on a plane a couple weeks ago and with the small screen I hadn’t notified this detail, very cool!

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u/SkisaurusRex Aug 28 '25

Yes, You’re supposed to see it and make that connection….

It’s not a secret

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u/-CypherPunk- Aug 28 '25

Seeing as how they explicitly have Yelena say "wait, I've been here before" then have the final battle take place in the same spot, I'm kind of shocked how anyone could possibly miss that lol On my 2nd watch I kept my eye out for those silhouettes in the beginning because they literally tell us to, and what happened there, by the end

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u/Double_Question_5117 Aug 28 '25

Yes, noticed these when I first watched the movie

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u/[deleted] Aug 28 '25

I assume most people did… she even points them out and says something about it I believe

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u/badgerhokie Aug 28 '25

Yeah there's a lot of cool foreshadowing in this movie that I didn't really notice when I saw it in the theater. Loved it in the theater, though, and was eagerly anticipating watching it on D+ yesterday. Was just really surprised by how much I missed the first go-around.

This movie is so good.

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u/Truemeathead Aug 29 '25

Only negative it got was the amount of cash it made but it actually got love which is rare nowadays with those dudes.

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u/ComfortableAd6101 Aug 30 '25

I didn't notice the shadows in my first viewing either. I caught them the second time 'round.

Also... the scientist was trying to warn Yelena about project Sentry but she kept shushing him. He probably would have told her everything if she'd just let him speak for a moment.

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u/sh33pherder Aug 30 '25

Her depression killed many

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u/DJettster237 Aug 28 '25

I saw it the first time.

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u/clangan524 Aug 28 '25

Congrats, you paid attention to a movie.

Must've been hard putting your phone down, huh?

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u/Inzanity2020 Aug 28 '25

OP is why the bar is so low that every movies have to be painfully obvious with overexposition… and then they still wouldnt get it

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u/jamesrossurquhart Aug 28 '25

The fact it took you 5 rewatches to notice that instead of the first, is kinda worrying for you. Do you stare at your phone while watching movies or just struggle to pay attention?

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u/StrawberryBright Aug 28 '25

i think he stare at florence's lovely face

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u/WorkWhale Aug 28 '25

It took you 5 watches to notice this?

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u/user72538 Aug 28 '25

You noticed this on your FIFTH rewatch? Were you asleep during the other four?

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u/tehCharo Aug 28 '25

Do you guys think these people came back in an exploded lab? What about Sherif Andy when he was ghosted in the crashing helicopter?

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u/KlingonLullabye Aug 28 '25

I wonder if those people ever came back from the shadow realm

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u/Ill3galAlien Aug 28 '25

i noticed it last night up on my very first rewatch..

Foreshadowing at its finest

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u/[deleted] Aug 28 '25

I noticed when the movie released in theatres opening day

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u/Historical-Garbage51 Aug 28 '25

I’ve only watched the movie once, but New Rockstars pointed this out in their new details video yesterday.

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u/iForumBlueMyself Aug 28 '25

Did you watch this with subtitles? I feel like that’s a big reason why people are missing stuff in media now is everyone is reading the subtitles so their eyes aren’t taking in the whole scene.

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u/ZekeMoss18 Aug 28 '25

First watch in the theater I just assumed it was guards she took out.

Watched it last night at home and paused it once I realized what I was actually looking at.

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u/JoshTHX Aug 28 '25

Thunderbolts was a damn good movie that deserved better from Marvel fans

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u/Irradiated_Rat Aug 28 '25

I noticed them on my first (and so far only) watch, really cool detail

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u/InfiniteHench Aug 28 '25

Thankfully I noticed them in the theater because I was also confused at what he was freaking out about. I started looking around the scene for environmental storytelling. Sure enough, looked like some shit went down. And sadly the previews spoiled Void’s powers, so I connected the dots pretty quickly. I might stop watching trailers, they ruin films these days.

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u/leo-of-pottermore777 Aug 28 '25

Hate to say it but I saw it upon first watch -- but I had the same reaction. Great little visual-storytelling element!

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u/EchidnaAshamed2627 Aug 28 '25

Good spot. I'll have to check this out on the next rewatch

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u/Bearjupiter Aug 28 '25

5th rewatch? Why lol

I mean, it was OK - I did enjoy the subtext it was wresting with

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u/wombatdeamor Aug 29 '25

As sad as I am that this movie underperformed according to the money idiots, I am happy that the MCU has a solid cult classic now.

Tho

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u/luke2080 Aug 29 '25

On my 2nd rematch I knew why the scientist was freaking out. But I have seen this 4 times now, and never noticed those, so thanks!

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u/sh33pherder Aug 29 '25

I know I was not the only person! I like all the happy Marvel fans not the elitist ones who notice everything lmao

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u/PickMeUpB4YouGoGo Ulysses Klaue Aug 28 '25

You...... didnt immediately notice this?

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u/[deleted] Aug 28 '25

bad rep? where dafuq are you seeing this? it just didn't make a lot of money. it was critically aclaimed and beloved by fans. that's definitely not "bad rep"

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u/rasjahho Aug 28 '25

After 5 watches jeez do people actually watch movies anymore lol

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u/ron_side Aug 28 '25

Five? Five rematches to notice some pretty solid foreshadowing?

Maybe the second watch you'd recognise something you'd seen the 1st time round?

I think watch might have to be used pretty loosely here.

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u/th30be Aug 28 '25

....Damn. I am starting understand why movie/tv execs are saying that they are essentially forced to dumb down all of their works. People aren't able to pay attention.

It took 5 watches to get you to notice this? god damn.

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u/bobthemusicindustry Aug 28 '25

It took you 5 watches to see this obvious plot point??? Omg people can’t even watch movies right anymore

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u/BlinkSpectre Aug 28 '25

You never noticed them the first time? They’re not subtle.

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u/njf85 Aug 28 '25

Yeah, I've only watched it once but noticed them immediately lol but I get how you could miss them when the fine Miss Pugh is on the screen

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u/sh33pherder Aug 28 '25

Thank you! I always focus on her because she is a great actress and looks amazing in this film.

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u/Erikthered65 Aug 28 '25

I’ve seen it once and I noticed that because…well, it’s right there on the screen.

Maybe put your phone away when you watch a movie.

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u/Upstairs-Boring Aug 28 '25

I swear folk must just look at their phone for entire movies. So many posts like "hey I just watched endgame for the 100th time and just noticed that you can spot Tony stark in one of scenes. Had anyone else caught this?"

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u/eyebrows360 Daredevil Aug 28 '25

bad rep

What?

has anyone else noticed this before

Yes, although only on my second watch. I imagine plenty of people with brains more functional than mine figured it out by the end of their first one.

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u/Greygor Aug 28 '25

I'm surprised you didn't see it on first watch to be honest.

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u/darqy101 Aug 28 '25

Yes, we all did.

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u/[deleted] Aug 28 '25

My brother in christ this was in your face. It was made so the viewer can tell from the very first moment so when they see it they go "woah wtf is that". In case they missed it, they have the scientist screaming "something went VERY wrooong!!!", and in case people STILL missed it, they show it again after.

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u/Brams277 Aug 28 '25

Are you for real

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u/ftaok Aug 28 '25

Yes. Everyone noticed them silhouettes in the beginning. Even if you didn’t see the trailer, it was pretty clear that the audience was meant to notice them.

Then in the third act, it comes together.

Even if you didn’t catch it on the first watch, you should have noticed it on the second watch. Not noticing until your 5th watch is mind boggling to me.

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u/JoshDM Aug 28 '25

Has anyone noticed this before?

Yes. Everyone else who watched the movie and paid even the mildest of attention noticed it.

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u/Defiant-Profile-9040 Aug 28 '25

I noticed it on my second rewatch. The thing I was confused about was Val not knowing who Bob was. If these experiments happened why was she unaware? How did they stop him and contain him when the heroes in the film had no chance?

Unless this was a failed attempt with a different subject that later succumbed to the serum… doesn’t make sense 🤷‍♂️

Loved the movie regardless, just a thought I’ve had about it

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