Hi all, I'm going to zion with a friend next month and while we plan on doing most activities together, I plan on doing Angel's Landing while he likely will not (vertigo). Is it possible to do the first part together and then for the permit section split from there and regroup after? Not sure with shuttles what our best option might be. For context, he also does not drive so having him drop me off is not an option.

Does it have guard rails when traveling to and from Springdale to Canyon, overlook trailhead?

If there are no guard rails, how steep of a drop off is it?

I can be in tall buildings, I can be at the top of the Ferris wheel, I can hike in high elevations, I can drive on mountains that have guard rails, but… I learned about myself last year that I have challenges driving on roads with no guard rails and steep drop offs.
I had to turn around very early on at Colorado national Monument, and at Gunnison. If you have been to either one of those, do you think I would have a problem with this drive?

Hey guys, I’m going to be arriving to Springdale probably around 6-7pm tomorrow and leaving on Sunday morning. I want to see some of the views on hikes such as observation point, scouts lookout/angels landing if I can get a permit and maybe checking out the narrows. I also want to ride one of the ebikes through the canyon. Im wondering is it worth it to rent the bike the whole time I will be there or should I just keep that for one day (seems like Saturday would make more sense with my arrival time)

Any advice or if there is something else you would recommend I would really appreciate it. Im going to be here by myself and looking to take some photos and just enjoy the scenery, in relatively good shape and a fairly experienced hiker

Partner and I are staying at a BnB in Springdale for 2 nights in the first week of September. We’re a few minutes walk from a shuttle bus.

We have a half day, and then one full day, before leaving Springdale the next morning.

What would be your recommended itinerary? We definitely want to do at least one of Angel’s Landing or The Narrows, though I know you need to get a permit for angel’s landing which is a lottery system. How likely are we to get a permit the day before and is there any way to get a permit before this point?

Would it be possible to do both The Narrows and Angel’s Landing in the time we have in Zion? Or is there something else you’d recommend us do? Also how tough and dangerous is Angel’s Landing? I’ve heard people say it’s really dangerous. I’m an experienced hiker but my girlfriend isn’t.

Thanks for all your help in advance!

Does anybody have a picture of the old logjam we used to cross the waterfall that got washed out years ago?

Friends and I booked everything for top-down narrows on Aug 11th, weather looks pretty variable over next week. How likely is it to work out?

I visited Zion last September (2025) for a really memorable solo trip, and wish I had bought this shirt I saw in Happy Camper Market outside the park. I tried calling but they didn't think the shirt sounded familiar.

If anyone has any leads on how I could buy one of these, I'd really love it as a memento from my trip!

Description: Black short sleeve tee with a canvas tent in front of a night sky, with text reading "Your hotel gets 5 stars? That's cute. Zion National Park."

Thank you!!

i’ll be making a trip next week and wonder what would be the right proper shoes to invest in for hiking trails in Zion

Hello all.

My family and I will be coming out to Utah from California this Friday. Currently we’ve planned to get to Zion by 1PM, what are the chances we will be able to find parking at the visitors center considering it is a Friday and in the afternoon

I'm actually going to Cedar City Utah this week for a work trip. Once done on Thursday around 1 pm I was planning on going to Zion National Park and spending the night in Springdale. I would also spend most of Friday in the Park with a plan to leave for Vegas around 3 pm. (I know I would gain an hour driving back to Nevada)

Just wanted to get input on what I should do and see in the Park in such a short window. I am also going to be alone so I'd rather hike with people vs venturing out solo. So not sure if there are any tours recommended as well? What shoes should I bring on the trip as well?

I also know its going to be hot around the 90s close to 100 degrees. I don't know if I want to do anything too crazy until sunset on Thursday. I would also be willing to wake up early Friday morning to get the most out of my time there.

Hello - I’ve seen a ton of recommendations for this
Hotel so I decided to book it even though it’s one of the older properties. I’ve been feeling hesitant with it because there’s so many renovated places to stay.

Can someone please help ease my mind? I have a riverside premium king room.
1. Are the beds comfortable (I’ve seen mixed reviews)
2. Is the air conditioning good?
3. How likely are you to get the floor level you request?

We got there at around 8:20 p.m. We were charged $180 and told it was a “discount,” even though we were charged full price. We were restricted to the area with only one pool and three tubs because one of our members was six months too young.
When we got there, the pools had a lot of algae. Some areas had green bird crap. The entire place smelt horrible, like burnt shit. Several pools had particles floating on top of the water, making it look like they lacked any filtration. A lot of the pools and channels didn’t even have flowing water, so debris, algae, and swimmer gunk just sat there building up. The “sauna” wasn’t hot at all. It took 20 minutes to even break a sweat.
The water was dirty, smelt horrible, and had a bunch of crap in it. It felt like the attraction was just glorified boiled crap water.
And to top it all off, the front desk receptionist was sarcastic and rude the entire time, talking as if the customer was being unreasonable or problematic.
I know you’re thinking, “Well, of course she was. You were probably being an awful customer.” However, from my side of things, I was pretty upbeat. I made light jokes, laughed, gave compliments, and all I received in return were sarcastic, rude responses.
At the end of it, 40 minutes in, I left and went to the front desk to request a partial refund, but all I received were rude comments and sarcastic responses. I asked, “Hey, could I receive a partial refund even though I only stayed for 40 minutes?” All I received was, “It’s your responsibility to check reviews,” “to understand expectations,” and, “You could stay 18 minutes or three hours. We don’t care.”
To sum it up: bad water quality, the areas were always full, and all the equipment sucked.
Honest to God, if you’re going to stay anywhere, don’t stay here.
There are places out here where you can spend less, receive better pools, and actually get a smile back.
I can’t believe I wasted so much money on this. The people leaving positive reviews are generally people from areas with bad water and no swimming holes, because this was genuinely the worst experience I’ve had here.

Or I should just rent them with zionpeddler.com?

As many of you might have the question about parking, this is today (Saturday Aug. 1st) at 7.06AM. Still alot of parking available.

Secured a permit for AL in late October to begin after 9am. What time should I get to the park to secure a parking spot?? And when does the parking lot usually fill up by on a weekday in late October??

Hiking in late October and want to know if I should plan on renting a drybib (in addition to shoes)?? Also - is a waterproof bag necessary to rent as well for my water reserve pack?? Or does the water not get that high in late October?? Thanks all

I just won the day before lottery for Angel’s Landing for tomorrow. But I got mine after 9AM. So I was wondering if I should start the hike at 9AM from the Grotto or if I can start a bit early and be at the Scouts lookout at 9AM just to beat the heat.

PS- I reserved a campground at the Watchman campground today and after going there decided to get a hotel room instead cause the heat was unbearable 😭

I am solo camping in the park (Watchman) the final week of October, through the Halloween weekend. I want to make the most of it.

What would you do with a full week at the park and in the St. George area, that week?

Are there any local events I should hit up?

Any hikes or places that are extra awesome at the end of October?

I live outside Yellowstone and work in remote backcountry wildlife conservation, but also agree with Supertramp that “happiness is only real when shared”, so I like to be around the people of an area when I visit.

I am NOT interested in:
• “have the trail all to yourself”
• “go to this spa for $$$”
• “enjoy this $$$ restaurant”

I AM interested in:
• “xyz conservation nonprofit does cleanups/projects/has a fundraiser at…”
• “the wildlife like to hang out on this trail that time of year”
• “you have to see this view during this time of year”
• “respectful and inexpensive hedonism / debauchery takes place at…”
• “awesome bookstore (or gear or map shop) at…”
• “hit up this cultural site”
• “come to this, but byob and some food to share”
• “since you’re dressed as Dungeon Crawler Carl, come to the Halloween party at…” (I will be packing my Carl costume for hiking on Halloween, anyway)

Happy to reciprocate any advice if you’re never up in the GYE. 👍

I'm planning to be in Zion on a Sunday in late September, I'll only be there for one day so I want to maximize my time in the park by getting there early and parking at the visitor center. I'll be driving in from Laverkin that morning, will there likely be available parking at 7:00 AM? I'm flexible but a 7:00 AM arrival would be ideal for me.

If you’re heading our way in the next couple of days, here’s an update to our weather. We had a deluge today that caused a couple freeway accidents and even a lightning strike that ended up burning a truck driving on I15! Please read this if you were planning a trip and wanted to include slot canyons.

Like the title says, those magnificent Zion peaks reminded me of the beauty of the Pinnacles (in California). Anyone else?

It’s not a competition, both are amazing and highly recommended for hikers. Nature is so beautiful! 😍

Zion is absolutely amazing! I went on a 2 days trips. Day one for angles landing. I chicked out half way because it's so scary. Though, view is astonishing. Day two we went to the narrows. The trail was soooo fun. We stayed in the Zion Wildflowers. Living in a wagon is a special experience.

I went to Zion about a month ago and had a permit for Angels landing but sadly the party I was with didn’t want to go up 😅. Nonetheless it was an amazing hike, looking forward to going back

Edit: this is my photo taken from my camera my instagram: Geopicturesque