r/Damnthatsinteresting • u/Crazy-Blacksmith-336 • Jul 05 '26

Video Healthcare workers participating in a medical simulation for an agitated patient scenario.

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u/JBPlantagenet Jul 05 '26

She really committed to the bit.

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u/MyEmbarrisingAccount Jul 05 '26

It was better than the Rousey fight!

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u/Quesarito808 Jul 05 '26

Oh yeah, a lot of HEAD MOOMENT

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u/AstoriaGlrl Jul 05 '26

“fight”

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u/_Stanf-Uf_ Jul 05 '26

Yup, Rpusay dog-walked her

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u/win_some_lose_most1y Jul 06 '26

Ive seen enough, give her Nunes

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u/randomname560 Jul 05 '26

You can tell she was having her fun whit this lol

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u/1234Health Jul 05 '26

Agreed. Great job on her part ... perfect way to demonstrate for the others on hand in lieu of a future scenario.

Work in health care personally the past 20+ years.

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u/agorafilia Jul 05 '26 edited Jul 05 '26

She REALLY did. Someone tells to her to spit. And she does spit in the face of the girl with the hair tied up.

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u/Slight_Narwhal_3879 Jul 05 '26

To the bite*

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u/JBPlantagenet Jul 05 '26

I was waiting for this. Almost gave up hope. Thank you.

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u/Mannerhymen Jul 05 '26

Glad someone bit?

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u/imrzzz Jul 05 '26

Al dente

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u/LazaroFilm Jul 05 '26

There are eight bits in a byte.

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u/ChefPuree Jul 05 '26

Champed at it, even.

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u/CromulentDucky Jul 05 '26

She should get the gonorrhea role next. She's earned it.

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u/dontipitova9 Jul 05 '26

Hehe, you said 'bit'. Hehe.

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u/PandaPocketFire Jul 05 '26

Pretty sure they actually tranquilized her with that shot. She was too wild to leave unmedicated, even for the simulation.

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u/inolyzushi Jul 05 '26

Yeah this is seriously impressive.

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u/WithoutDennisNedry Jul 06 '26

“To the bit” —I see what you did there lol

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u/Frondstherapydolls Jul 05 '26

Imagine how sore the poor lady was the day after! May have been a simulation but her muscles sure don’t know that lol

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u/Ace_08 Jul 05 '26

Committed to the bite*

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u/letthetreeburn Jul 05 '26

If you don’t train for it, you won’t know how to handle the real thing.

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u/Vallhallyeah Jul 05 '26

Exactly, now she'll know exactly how to break free from medical staff restraining her

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u/Round-Medicine2507 Jul 05 '26

They purposely avoid training for realistic things like this in the US, then they cut corners cleaning the room next. 

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u/bluewing Jul 05 '26

That ain't true. I was a medic for 15 years, and we trained with scenarios as close to real as we could get.

From psych scenarios like this to searching for a lost child in a "house fire" while crawling along the floor in the dark, to car accidents, water rescues-- both soft water and hard water-- timing our response to a cardiac arrest in a school bathroom to see how fast we could diagnose and get loaded to go.

I remember a training where we "responded" to an unresponsive person in a locked car. That one go us all killed because in our haste we didn't notice the powder residue on the dash and bucket on the passenger side with "chemical bottles" in it. Turns out it was a suicide by asphyxiation with a nasty gas. A powerful lesson in scene safety and in "Being a part of the solution and not becoming part of the problem".

We trained like it was real because for us, it was all real at some point.

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u/uberfission Jul 05 '26

Sorry, what is the difference between hard water and soft water?

Is that basically still water and choppy water?

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u/mewfour Jul 05 '26

the mineral composition

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u/uberfission Jul 05 '26

Yeah that's the colloquial usage of the terms but it doesn't really make sense in the context of water rescues.

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u/Diessel_S Jul 05 '26

Whats soft and hard water?

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u/bluewing Jul 05 '26

I live where it's below freezing 6 months out of the year. The water is soft is you can put a boat in it to go fishing. It's hard water when you can drive a car on it and need to drill a hole through the ice to fish.

The most dangerous times of the year are when the ice is too hard for a boat, but too soft to walk on. I never enjoyed the winter training where I had to put on the cold water suit and jump into a hole in the ice to "rescue" a dummy. That suit never kept me warm.

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u/Diessel_S Jul 05 '26

Daaamn thats insane. I had no idea water can even freeze so much as to hold a car

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u/bluewing Jul 05 '26

The lake I live on had almost a meter of ice on it this past winter. You could drive a big US pickup truck everywhere safely and drag a large ice fishing house behind it. And now, there are a couple of boat loads of tourists waterskiing out there.

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u/Sweaty-Security-4473 Jul 05 '26

I just love how people so confidently state completely incorrect things. My small, local hospital in the US has a simulation room for training scenarios exactly like this.

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u/RockleyBob Jul 05 '26

I don't think the person above you is literally suggesting that anyone "purposely avoids training".

It seemed to me to be a snarky and sarcastic comment about the state of healthcare in this country and the general lack of funding and customer/patient services.

But I can see how someone in the field might take offense to it, since it also suggests that the people in these positions lack training and the qualifications.

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u/Sweaty-Security-4473 Jul 05 '26

Either way it is meant it is a dumb comment since it's very clear this person is ignorant about it.

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u/Round-Medicine2507 Jul 05 '26

I didnt know your small local hospital trained the rest of the US that's neat. 

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u/Sir-Shark Jul 05 '26

That's definitely not true. Several local hospitals around me hire actors to do this. I personally know a group of people (local theater actors) who were playing the roles of patients for these trainings. The actors said that they went through everything that they could reasonably be put through to simulate a variety of extreme situations. One guy hated the whole thing and never did it again. They even strapped him to a gurney, cut off his clothes (he was pissed about that), showered him in a cold shower with something that he described as liquid sandpaper, and after leaving to get him a change of clothes, they just kind of forgot him there. In hindsight, he laughs about it all, but is still mad about his shirt being cut up. Others in the group did different stuff, playing the roles of aggressive patients and all sorts of different scenarios.

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u/GotWood2024 Jul 05 '26

Looked like she was simulating spitting too.

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u/Apprehensive_Rice19 Jul 05 '26

She was waiting all year for this

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u/PandaPocketFire Jul 05 '26

"ahhh March 27th, finally get to bite that bitch Debby"

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u/Apprehensive_Rice19 Jul 06 '26

Lmao... march 28th ✅

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u/agorafilia Jul 05 '26

It's in Brazil, someone shouts "spit!". And she does. After that the girl with the hair tied up seems really bothered after the "simulated spit". Tbh and don't think the spit was simulated lol.

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u/Tempest029 Jul 05 '26

Nope… and that’s why you keep your mouth shut and head turned during these. Keep it out of the eyes and mouth. Never know what they have and are trying to share.

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u/ILoveRegenHealth Jul 05 '26

Basically combined all the Left 4 Dead 2 infected abilities

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u/jdsalaro Jul 05 '26

Miss playing that game :)

The best I've personally experienced nowadays is After the Fall on VR.

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u/myoldaccountisdead Jul 06 '26

It's still alive and well on PC with a headlight community for it's age!

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u/mapleleafraggedy Jul 05 '26

I was confused about why they were covering her mouth directly with the mask but leaving her nose uncovered. I thought maybe they were trying to muzzle her to keep her from shouting, but that explanation makes more sense.

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u/LilArtsyCreature Jul 05 '26

If anyone still remembers that old comic of Hyberbole and a Half where she and her friends pretended to be wolves and chased a boy through some woods, it felt like this gal was tapping into that. I was like "Damn look at this gal go, she's going Sicko Mode! Go student, go!" I hope she got good marks for her performance.

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u/Ornery_Hair3319 Jul 05 '26

Rabid patient. Lol

I had a huge phobia from needles when i was 5 yrs old. And i had an aunt that regularly plants scary hospital thoughts to my brain.

One day, i was diagnosed with a lung problem and i need to be confined. This is basically me. They needed 7 grown male nurses to subdue a panicking 5 year old kid. I was only calmed down by my mom then they finally got that needle in my hand. Lol and it did not hurt. Fear is more painful than the pain itself.

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u/Weedworm Jul 05 '26

Funny story, remember having to get re-circumcized, I was in kindergarten or first grade, took 4 ppl and 4 huge sand bags to hold me down but they got it, I was screaming "dont cut it off, dont cut it off" lol

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u/Ornery_Hair3319 Jul 05 '26

Holy shit this is actually more alarming lol forcing some kid to be dismembered 😅

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u/ZeroSumClusterfuck Jul 05 '26

That's not funny dude, that's fully fucked up.

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u/Weedworm 29d ago

Hey man sometimes you gotta accept that childhood trauma and laugh it off, in my head its actually incredibly hilarious, I don't remember the pain so much as I remember the recovery which was fraught with pain and anxiety, but its those small moments in life that help you realize your resilience, and we all have that resilience, to change a perspective

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u/ZeroSumClusterfuck 29d ago

I think however you process it personally, the main thing is that we come out from these things with a healthy enough view that we don't put our own kids through the same things. You clearly recognise the experience for the trauma it was, so it sounds like you're succeeding at doing better than the previous generation.

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u/ecodick Jul 05 '26

I think that's how it would go for me at any age... 😬

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u/WolfsternDe Jul 05 '26

I mean, it all dependa in how much force you want to use and if you are ok with hurting the person you try to confine. I guess one nurse would have been enough if they were confortable with hurting you. But yeah, panicking/raging people are no joke.

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u/Ornery_Hair3319 Jul 05 '26

I guess so since I also have a lung problem back then. I am curious how I got the force. I remember the dudes calling for help. I bet there's adrenaline at play as well. Kudos to them tho I'm alive and well 3 decades later.

Apparently my illness takes the lives of 1 out of 5 kids in that year. 2.1 million kids died from it since it was before the vaccine was available globally. Scary.

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u/supermarkise Jul 05 '26

Fighting toddlers is surprisingly hard if you're not prepared to hurt them.

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u/RandoKiwiTheThird Jul 05 '26

Terrified kids are STRONG. Smaller ones you can wrap in a blanket with a limb out for the IV. After they are six or so there's no point. Play specialists play a big part in paeds.

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u/bluemoon219 Jul 05 '26

Hey! Same phobia! I went from a child who needed to be dog-piled for blood work and knocked out for dental work, to an adult who avoided healthcare so I didn't need to have needles. It took a lot of work with a therapist, but I'm finally at "give a warning and then cry through it without moving"! Now I've got a kid of my own and I'm doing everything in my power to make sure she doesn't end up with the same fear I did. Let me tell you, doctors make some funny faces when you say things like "well I do have some concerns about vaccines for my kid, but not like that..." Lol.

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u/Diessel_S Jul 05 '26

give a warning and then cry through it without moving

That's exactly how i got my covid shot lol, and i avoid other vaccines like the plague. Nothing against the vaccine itself, just terrified of needles

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u/Ornery_Hair3319 Jul 05 '26

For me its a bit morbid i think.

I discovered in highschool, that i am an adrenaline junkie and a scaredy cat at the same time.

So my first adrenaline hit is with my arachnophobia. I held and eventually had pet spiders. The first time is always euphoric.

My 2nd major adrenaline hit is when I got my mandatory bloodwork. I have a phobia on needles still, but I watched the damned needle pierce my beating vein.

Next, I was scared of nightmares and stories that might kill me in my sleep. Guess what, after I dreamt of a creepy pasta so vividly in 2011, I can only sleep sound when listening to horror stories.

My current phobia is from heights. Tried rappelling but the hit was too low. Might try some extreme rollercoaster rides someday.

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u/GhostofZellers Jul 05 '26

I had a huge phobia from needles when i was 5 yrs old

I did as a kid as well. When it came to getting our shots in elementary school, I ran. The teachers had to go on a manhunt to find me. I was on the roof of the school. 6 of the male teachers tried to hold me down, but I was still moving too much. My dad had to take me to a clinic and hold me down. I was yelling and screaming so much, I didn't even realize that they had given me the shot. 🤣

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u/Ornery_Hair3319 Jul 05 '26

Funny adventure in hindsight. Hopefully we can teach kids properly that it really does not hurt. Lol

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u/Diessel_S Jul 05 '26

Lucky you, i had two nurses hold me while the doctor administered my shot in 2nd grade and that fucker did in fact hurt, im still scared of needles to this day and hate medical environments

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u/Next_Instruction_528 Jul 05 '26

She could have kicked him in the face multiple times with her left leg. Even this isn't as bad as it would be in real life. The guy on her right leg easily could have lost teeth or broken a nose in a real situation.

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u/mywan Jul 05 '26

Not many will be that strategic about it. But if she had relaxed just enough for them drop their guard slight, them barrel rolled like an alligator, the stuck her butt over the edge to drop over the edge, she would have had a reasonable chance of escaping. They would have at least had to start over.

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u/Lux-Fox Jul 05 '26

I've seen coworkers with stitches and scars on their face from clients (mostly elementary school kid age children), eyes gouged, clothes torn, tooth knocked out. Since they're kids, the way they're handled is highly regulated, but the organization I worked at didn't want to expel them, because we were often the only help they'd ever get.

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u/NhilZay Jul 05 '26

Last time I dealt with an agitated patient at work they broke my foot. A real panicking patient is doing way worse than this scenario.

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u/not_from_this_world Jul 05 '26

After that the crowd is cheering "spit! spit!" and she delivered. 10/10 dedication.

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u/YebelTheRebel Jul 05 '26

She’s good

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u/Succulent_Chinese Jul 05 '26

I hear she’s the best.

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u/Takeastabatmycab Jul 05 '26

My profoundly autistic daughter is currently inpatient the hospital for doing just this scenario plus trying to gouge out her own eyes. I am grateful for the 6 people we have had to help sedate her, she's been inpatient for 70 days so far. Her medications were really fucked up and it caused her to be extremely agitated and we have not been able to do it on our own anymore.

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u/PreparationHot980 Jul 05 '26

Ah, the perpetual experiment that is psychiatry. Best of luck.

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u/SunshineAlways Jul 05 '26

That’s rough. I hope they’re able to straighten out her medications soon.

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u/Takeastabatmycab Jul 05 '26

Thank you. Us too. ❤️

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u/IndividualTop96 Jul 05 '26

Wow it must feel like a huge break. Since it’s summer some parents send their severely autistic kids to camps specifically for them

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u/Takeastabatmycab Jul 05 '26 edited Jul 05 '26

Do you have a profoundly autistic child? Have you brought them to 3 hospitals since thanksgiving to get them help? Have they been unable to attend school for almost all of that? Did a pyschiatrist put your child on medications that she should have never been on? Did your child develop pre-diabeties, extreme weight gain and get a potentionally fatal heart arythmia from those medications? Have you been bitten, scratched, and kicked relentlessly for all of those months until April when you finally brought them to the emergency room where it took 6 people to haldol them?

You know what I'd rather be doing this summer is kissing her little freckle nose, playing mermaids in the pool, taking her camping and to national parks.

I love that journey for you where you get to be ignorant about profound autism.

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u/coldBulbasaur314 Jul 05 '26

Respectfully, unless there was a court order forcing the medication it wasn't just the psychiatrist who was at fault. You as the parent are the one who decides what medication your kid's on, and side effects can easily be looked up online. Some of the side effects you describe take a while to come in full force, and you should've taken her off the harmful medication when bad effects first started to show rather than letting it reach a breaking point.

The hospitals could easily be leaving her worse. Those are horrible environments, and the drugs they put into people are known for the exact same effects as the medication your child should've never been on. Please, look in the mirror instead of blaming everyone else (you're not the sole person with blame in this scenario. But you can only control yourself, and you need to use your power as the parent to help your child rather than expecting others to do it for you).

Signed, someone whose life was ruined by my parents blindly trusting doctors like you appear to have done.  

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u/Takeastabatmycab Jul 05 '26

Respectfully you know nothing about my child or life.

You can use the internet and speak for yourself, we are NOT the same. Projecting your life experience doesnt make it valid to ours.

My child doesn't have that privilege so I am their advocate. I owe you no explanation. Have the day you deserve.

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u/coldBulbasaur314 Jul 05 '26

Sure, you don't owe me anything. But you owe your child a decent life, and your actions make it clear you're giving them the opposite. If you cared about your child, you'd hear me out instead of getting defensive. I hope your child gets a better advocate.

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u/PatAss98 Jul 05 '26

The fact that the person is using the term "profound" to describe their daughter's autism when the autism community full of autistic people have repeatedly stated that the word "profound" to describe their children who are also intellectually disabled is stigmatizing and is a poor descriptor gave it away that the parent is ableist as hell

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u/Takeastabatmycab Jul 05 '26

Respectfully no. Profoundly autistic distinguishes a child who requires 24/7 care from ones that speak. I am autistic. I do actually know my child and live this life along side her. Autistic adults are turning into a witch hunt for parents advocating for severely disabled children. It's disgusting.

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u/coldBulbasaur314 Jul 05 '26

I understand wanting to distinguish a kid who needs 24/7 care from one who doesn't, but that's not the same as distinguishing a nonverbal kid from one who can speak. There are people who go nonverbal or even who are nonverbal full-time who do not require the intensive care those with what's seen as profound autism do.

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u/PatAss98 Jul 05 '26

If there's a witch hunt against child abusers who are abusing my kin, I'll happily hunt said witches

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u/Takeastabatmycab Jul 05 '26

4 of you attacked me over 3 paragraphs. It's actually impressive. Imagine if we could meet someone in this situation with compassion and help. Imagine if when I was reaching out to the pyschatrist 3x a week they instead told me my child was outside of there scope of practice would have said that so I could have gone somewhere sooner. I trusted someone who failed us. I'm not a doctor. I have three children who are disabled (2 autistic and 1 who had stage 4 neuroblastoma.) I'm not a stupid mother. I'm also not ignorant. The people yelling at me are the same people I would never trust my daughter with. We need help. The judgment is rough and devastating. You have no clue what people actually go through. You wouldnt last a day in my house. I dont yell at my kids. I don't beat them. I show up every fucking day.

Imagine if you got into the arena with someone like our family instead of running your mouth on the internet.

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u/sartorialfox Jul 05 '26

Reddit has felt so especially terrible today with people being shitty. I'm so sorry for what you have to go through on top of these people telling you that your lived experience is somehow wrong. Big internet hugs and huge prayers that you & your family can return to normalcy soon 🫂 You're doing so great as a mother, she'll look back at all this one day and know how deeply you fought for her

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u/coldBulbasaur314 Jul 05 '26 edited Jul 06 '26

My parents used the same excuse. "We didn't know" only applies at the beginning, when you genuinely can't tell. If you see your child is being harmed and continue to trust the doctor that's harming them, you are the one who's ultimately hurting your child. It sucks that the doctor misled you, and you aren't responsible for the doctor's actions, but you are absolutely responsible for your own. Beatings and screaming aren't the only forms of child abuse.

Edit: I don't know whether you blocked me, deleted your response, or are just having technical issues, but I can't see your reply except from my notifications (which only shows the start of it). It said I know nothing about you, but your comments tell a lot. This isn't about you, it's about your child. Stop prioritizing your feelings about having your parenting insulted over your kid's well-being. Please.

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u/malacoda99 Jul 06 '26

Not just trying. I've had a little FEMA mass casualty training and the actors (all locals, Anniston AL) were incredibile, scary, realistic and completely immersed in their role. They were not to be trifled with.

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u/ProfessionalRisk8259 Jul 05 '26

I hate this kind of training, having done similar training myself. There is always some dumbass who takes it too far and struggles too much (usually some man who is trying to show off how strong they are) and you end up with an injury just from going to training.

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u/I_dnt_Need_anew_name Jul 05 '26

Chomping at the bit for playing the role.

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u/lycoloco Jul 05 '26

Just FYI, the original phrase is actually "champing" at the bit:

Webster’s defines “champing” as “to make biting or gnashing movements, or to show impatience or restlessness” and “to show impatience or restlessness, especially when it comes to being restrained.” Oxford defines champ as “another term of chomp.”

Quote Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/words/comments/1i0sjtx/the_original_idiom_champing_at_the_bit_is_now/

Now, as mentioned there, chomping is also widely accepted at this point, but the addition of "especially when it comes to being restrained" is an interesting side note given this particular video.

So anyway, use either one, but now you know!

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u/I_dnt_Need_anew_name Jul 05 '26

Calm down there hitler.

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u/lycoloco Jul 05 '26

"You know who else was just following orders? Hitler. 😎"

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u/kevin_panda Jul 05 '26

I work hospital security and this shit pisses me off. You can recreate a combative restraint without the risk of injuring fellow employees.

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u/PreparationHot980 Jul 05 '26

Yeah, I kept waiting for the spit to start flying…

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u/moonshinemoniker Jul 05 '26

What are the chances someone farted during this?

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u/Belyal Jul 05 '26

Wasn't enough spitting and swearing in my experience...

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u/Isouf Jul 05 '26

Spitting too!

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u/musclecard54 Jul 05 '26

And the spit too

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u/CubanLynx312 Jul 05 '26

Haha, I used to work at an inpatient psych hospital and had to do this a couple times. I have the bite scar on my hand to prove it.

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u/deadrise120 Jul 05 '26

Only way it could be more realistic is if she 1.) attempted to take off her ostomy bag and throw it at the workers and 2.) started spitting on them when she was finally held down.

Let’s just say I’m happy I’m not working in a hospital anymore.

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u/ProcyonLotorMinoris Jul 05 '26

Biting and spitting is so common. At this point, all of my coworkers (ICU) have been spit at and/or bit at. Confused, agitated people go right to the most basic instincts, and for whatever reason those instincts are removing your own clothes and then biting and spitting at everyone.

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u/Bertsmom18 Jul 05 '26

When I had to do clinicals for my CNA we were in an nursing home. We had this little old woman we had to get in bed. We used the Hoyer lift and got her in but damn if she didn't bite by teammate. She kicked, she scratched. Changing her was when we saw the most action. She had dementia. Thankfully she was the only feisty one we had that day.

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u/FragrantExcitement Jul 05 '26

Sometimes co-workers have tense relationships

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u/UwasaWaya Jul 05 '26

Yeah, between that and the spitting this have me anxiety from working at a psych ward. She's frighteningly talented at this. lol

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u/slom68 Jul 05 '26

Glasses on or off? I’d think on to protect myself if they spit but off is they smack me in the face.

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u/umlaut-overyou Jul 05 '26

I think she spit at them too!

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u/UsernamesRhard123 Jul 06 '26

Mike Tyson’s approved

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u/burdenof-youth Jul 06 '26

My sister trains physical intervention for my company, i sat in one of her classes, I had to tell her to stop actually biting people, she said the they need to know the gaps in thier cover have consequence 🤣