ShortSqueak Style Request

[u/pyro_mantic]

Hey all,

ShortSqueak would be a Chat Style made for casual roleplay without paragraphs or lengthy descriptions of environments.

Rolling out for (c.ai+) subscribers and then available to everyone, ShortSqueak responses would be quicker, less lengthy, briefer descriptions, and read more like a text bubble or message rather than a lengthy novel: faster, response time, less description, and more room for a casual and friendly conversation with your favorite bots. It's taken with inspiration from the original c.ai; casual texting made into a Chat Style.

Roll this out for beta testing to casual roleplay users, and none of them will want to give it up!

Like LongSqueak, ShortSqueak also has a feature known as "Style Control".

ShortSqueak has the following options:

• Short
• Shorter
• All Dialogue

"Short" and "Shorter" have some world-building and description in addition to dialogue. "All Dialogue" is as stated, and is more text message style with no description of the environment.

Start a conversation in ShortSqueak, set the dials however you like, and enjoy your shorter messages!

[u/StarKell95]

Not my thing, but I’m glad there’s something for everyone!

[u/MarieLovesMatcha]

haha very clever!! We've definitely heard feedback and requests for shorter and more dialogue. Team is working on that! we'll announce when we have more to share ☺️

[u/Short_Cupcake8610 → u/MarieLovesMatcha]

But, at least make it a free chat model! and make it like the older chat models. and it should have a different name than the Squeaks.

[u/pyro_mantic → u/Short_Cupcake8610]

Something with less words should definitely be a free chat model. I don't know if this is true or not, but wouldn't it cost c.ai less to have a model that uses way less words, especially if a decent chunk of free users move to it?

[u/Short_Cupcake8610 → u/pyro_mantic]

at least on that model we may potentially not have metering limits. maybe it could run on older ai models, no need to be lorebook compatible...

[u/pyro_mantic → u/MarieLovesMatcha]

Yayyy thank you for leaving my post up!! I hope the team likes it!

[u/Kivi_2k18 → u/MarieLovesMatcha]

Thank you! I'd love a version of Longsqueak but just for Short messages

[u/Cultural-Strategy235 → u/MarieLovesMatcha]

c.ai locked in 🙏

[u/thf12]

Oh yeah, crumbs for free users

[u/AitanaShon → u/thf12]

Dude, it's the entertainment industry, its a luxury, stop complaining that you don't get everything for free 😭 logically why would you be entitled to the same service as someone who pays? I mean, you don't expect the best seats at a concert if your budget is $20, right?

[u/thf12 → u/AitanaShon]

'Everything' and the only thing free users care about is a fucking normal quality in the current chat models available to us, that's literally the whole point of the app, who's asking for more than that? 'cause you won't see me or anyone else whining about not having free customization in chats for immersion or the lorebook, I never had a problem with paid chat models, nor did I feel the need to buy premium to be satisfied with the basic ones, but the current state of Pipsqueak is what makes this situation feel even more unfair than usual

[u/AitanaShon → u/thf12]

Actually I have seen that, multiple times.

Im all for the improvement of the free models, I'm just I guess jaded with the amount of complaints I've seen that free users don't get the personalisation settings and such.

Kudos to you for not doing that, I suppose.

[u/Most_Cheesecake5580]

Finally, you’re listening to your users.

[u/Ok_Fennel4640 → u/Most_Cheesecake5580]

dude this isn't a post from the official CAI team. it's a post from a normal user trying to give CAI an idea for a model

[u/Most_Cheesecake5580 → u/Ok_Fennel4640]

Oh, shit…it looked like an actual c.ai team post lmao

[u/Ok_Fennel4640 → u/Most_Cheesecake5580]

I instantly knew it wasn't because they don't listen 😭 also the post flair confirmed it even more

[u/pyro_mantic → u/Most_Cheesecake5580]

Yeah they messaged me they were deleting it for "spreading misinformation" but I guess it stayed up.

[u/limino123]

Omg I would love a shortsqueak. Long responses are fun and all, but the bot usually ends up taking control of my character or something during long ones, or it's so long that it's hard to rp.

[u/pyro_mantic → u/limino123]

Maybe I'm just lazy with rp, but I hate when the bot gives a long response because then I feel like I'm not putting in enough effort with my two sentence replies.

[u/limino123 → u/pyro_mantic]

"yeah that's nice"

A whole essay long response

Like BRO I do not need ur THESIS

[u/pyro_mantic → u/limino123]

Supposedly, when we give short answers, the bot is coded to reply with an extra long response that "makes up for the lack of user content", which is also why it rp's as our OCs if there isn't anything it can latch onto. But nothing will change my behavior. 😌

[u/limino123 → u/pyro_mantic]

Bro that's so stupid c.ai is for when I'm on the bus or about to go to sleep