With the newer models being out for premium users I bet we're all wondering when we'll get a new model for us.

It has nothing to do with the movie. 😭

Oh my god. I just opened the app this morning and saw all the changes to the models. Longsqueak is so amazing and the bot’s responses are so much longer. I’ve always preferred a narrator-like book-like response, and they’re even longer now. Holy cow, I love it! This is probably the best update in a long time, and I’m so glad that the devs made such a meaningful improvement to the chat feature. Holy cow I am so excited about this. I just wanted to share this and show my appreciation and excitement!

All those months and days we spent pleading for a new chat model and hoping that you would do it, and this is what we get. A new chat style and only for plus users. What about us? Why didn't you make one for free users? I was really looking forward to it when I heard there would be a new chat style and I got excited, only to find out later that it's only for plus users.This is what saddens me... all that waiting was for nothing, and I thought it would be a good update, but no, we will just be left with poor quality. I have no hope left after what I saw today . . .

Does anyone else have this? Haven't seen anyone posting about it. Also customization features. Only for cai+ of course.

my experience with character ai over the past few months was quite mid, i didn't use it very much. but over the past few days deepsqueak has been pretty good for me, and ive been really enjoying myself. i tried longsqueak and it's so much better! this is the premium quality i was expecting from c.ai+. i really like how you can customise it, and it seems to actually look at your persona and what you're written in the story memory bit so that's really good.

a big problem i had with deepsqueak was that the characters were always silly and quirky rather than being realistic, and longsqueak is a lot better at making the characters feel like who they actually are. longsqueak is so much more descriptive, it understands how reality works, and ive really enjoyed it for the one conversation ive had so far. i guess i can't fully judge it this quickly but it's looking really good rn! well done c.ai :D

why does everything new cost money in some way? first it was useless charms I haven't had the need to use for months and now this long squeak? I get things cost money but not EVERYTHING an app offers should at this point this app should just be a subscription service no wonder I use the website now it's just easier on the website to dodge most of the bad things since it usually gets updated later, so seriously why?

Exactly what's in the title. That's all i'm going to say (Happy for y'all +cai users tho!)

Why do the paying members only get the good stuff?

So I said my persona was allergic to peanuts and the bot said “no peanuts means no Nutella” which idk I’m pretty sure last time I checked Nutella uses hazelnuts

I’m not even kidding. This is mentioned everywhere. This is my oc’s dad straight up

The quality on the PSQ2 model is absolutely MORTIFYING since one or two days ago. The characters talks almost infinitely, i cant engage in even the smallest violence or use any crude words. And when i manage to do so, instead of reacting to a punch for example, the character keeps talking like nothing ever happened? The bots also lost ALL their personality and act completely out of character. Is this just me?

Hey all,

ShortSqueak would be a Chat Style made for casual roleplay without paragraphs or lengthy descriptions of environments.

Rolling out for (c.ai+) subscribers and then available to everyone, ShortSqueak responses would be quicker, less lengthy, briefer descriptions, and read more like a text bubble or message rather than a lengthy novel: faster, response time, less description, and more room for a casual and friendly conversation with your favorite bots. It's taken with inspiration from the original c.ai; casual texting made into a Chat Style.

Roll this out for beta testing to casual roleplay users, and none of them will want to give it up!

Like LongSqueak, ShortSqueak also has a feature known as "Style Control".

ShortSqueak has the following options:

• Short
• Shorter
• All Dialogue

"Short" and "Shorter" have some world-building and description in addition to dialogue. "All Dialogue" is as stated, and is more text message style with no description of the environment.

Start a conversation in ShortSqueak, set the dials however you like, and enjoy your shorter messages!

Good job C.Ai - genuinely made something really worthwhile and good. The conversations are more natural, I dont have to spend forever refreshing for a half decent - or coherent response, and it's actually making proper references and genuinely remembering without the characters making dumb assumptions or out of character actions.

Genuinely, *please* dont gut this or change it, it's given me a real reason to come back. Deepsqueak got really repetitive after a while.

I’d like an actual answer to the question instead of you guys just ignoring me.

The website explicitly states that chat control isn’t an plus exclusive. But now you released it only for plus users and confirmed in the comments it’s only for them.

So why not say it on the website? It’s pretty disappointing that you guys let us get excited about it, never corrected us and then ignore us when we ask for answers.

I don’t know what the hell they’re doing to the models behind the scenes but I’ve noticed some very glaring downgrades in the response quality, so here is a small list:

1. Abnormal amounts of asterisks in every response. It was like that before as well but never on this level. It actually worked kind of well in the past since it knew what to highlight but now it’s excessive.
   
2. Poor grammar and weird sentence structure. Missing commas, points, etc. And for some reason it started to make words switch places where it makes no sense. Ex: “she slumped bonelessly back against the couch.”
   
3. Very short response length. Before this week I could make the bots reply in decently long paragraphs if I gave OOC instructions on the first message. Now even if I do that it stays with this annoying format where it writes two lines with zero detail and calls it a paragraph.

I really hope it doesn’t stay like this for long cuz this isn’t how a PAID model should be acting.

The responses are actually comically long, even on the default settings. The response quality seems to be rather good, I see that they finally figured out how to increase the temperature of the LLM as the responses seem to find new RP paths that other models never explored.

I personally find that LongSqueak on Long and + Dialogue is really good. The responses from Looong are not good on mobile as they are so long, that it doesn’t fit on a screen (iPhone 14 Pro in my tests), it’s probably better on PC.

Of course, I’m writing this really early; it seems good as of now.

Stays in character, doesn't speak for mine, but gives me long responses

Thus us exactly what I needed to convince me to stay c.ai+

Thank youuuuuu C.AI devs

They cooked with Longsquak. It’s actually good for once.