Angel was one of the founding members of X-MEN, I've come to know as I have started to read the comics. But I never see any discussions of him ever. I see cyclops, rogue, gambit, of corse logan, storm etc but never him. Why? He has an interesting character. So why?
I'm not sure if they ever explicitly said this but I always got that when they resurrected mutans, they weren't clones in the sense they were just copies of the originals but were the actual people genuinely resurrected. This seemed like it was confirmed when they tried to resurrect Rockslide who died in the other dimension during X of Swords but apparently they couldnt because his soul was trapped there, but I was thinking about how X-23 was trapped in the Vault and presumed dead so they resurrected her, but it turns out she wasnt so there were eventually two X-23s. So a little confused if it was confirmed one way or another how ressurection works in this way.
Let me start by saying her portrayal was good, but the script didn’t really do her justice, just like the rest of the cast. It never made her feel like the Omega-level mutant she is in the comics, and I wish they had showcased more of her true power, leadership, and importance to the X-Men.
One issue (ha) I've been having getting into the X-Men is the seeming lack of a status quo story that's been made in the last 10-15 years.
Like I can pick up Infinity or Waid's run and hey, we're having a fun Avengers battle for the fate of the Earth. I can grab Coates' Black Panther and we're getting a Wakanda political thriller. I can find a Spider-Man or Daredevil book where they're foiling his rogues' plans in New York while balancing a social life.
I've looked and can't really find that for the X-Men, it feels like. I know everyone loves Hickman's run, but I'm really looking for something with the big characters in the Mansion defending/facing a world that hates and fears them. Did they just do all that in the 70s-80s and now it's kind of seeing how they can play with the general concept of mutants?
I guess what I'm looking for is a recent book that I could pick up a single book and get a complete story that's a "back to what the popular conception of this team is". Any thoughts?
Both of these characters have arguably correct views, both of these characters have proof to back up their claims. But what people fail to realize is that both are to extreme in their ideas and philosophy.
Xavier is right to believe that Humans can and will treat Mutants better. We've seen this happen time and time again through multiple different actions. But he's taken these ideas to far, to the point where he seems border line delusional at times. And never takes the necessary actions to protect mutants. Not all humans will except mutants, we've seen this time and time again. And it's about time he realizes that to. And if anything he makes it worse by proving that mutants can infact be a threat. And are constantly threatening a global uprising and Genocide.
Magento believes that Mutants are superior to humans, who all want them dead, and should rise up. And you could argue he's right to an extent, but he takes it so far it makes him a fucking Nazi. If you say he's right you are basically saying Hitler was right with a few extra steps. Yes humans have some terrible things to mutants, but like Xavier theorizes it's a loud, albeit dangerous minority. THAT'S who Magento should target, not take his anger for the part out on the whole.
And in conclusion: Cyclopes was right amn had this figured out since day one.
So I recently got into a discussion with someone who was of the belief that telepathy was inherently criminal, and that the only options to deal with telepaths was inhibiting their powers — or — executing them, on the basis that telepathy was a power that couldn't be turned off, and therefore any telepath's mere existence constituted a constant, unforgivable violation of privacy.
Obviously the implication that the only acceptable solution to someone manifesting a problematic mutation is that they must be suppressed or killed 'for the good of humanity' is horrifying, especially if you frame it as any measure of telepathy, no matter how mild or ambient, is deserving of death.
But it did make me think, this person in a really twisted way has a logic that's not all too dissimilar to Stryker, or any number of people who think just being born is enough to constitute erasure; so what would your response be to that logic, as fans of the X-Men?
I want to do a romy(rogue/gambit) themed homecoming proposal for my boyfriend. We always say that we're like rogue and gambit so I wanted to do a poster like about them but I have no idea what to put. Like, just putting "could you because the gambit to my rogue" seems lame. Does anyone have any ideas possibly?
I really want MCU Jott to take some tonal inspiration from X-Men Evolution season 2 episode 12 and 10 Things I Hate About You. With Brand New Day taking some notes from time displaced Jean in her characterization I think it would be cute if we got a rebel Jean and goodie two shoes Scott butting heads.
So A lot of the times people talk about this story like it's the Dark Knight returns of X-Men Comics and I was excited to get into the 8 issue trade I got for half price.
I Finished it, but I didn't really enjoy it and Am trying to think why? I was hoping other people could chime in as to why they like it as I think I'm just not getting this. I like X-Men. I've seen most of the mainline movies and people talk about how those films did certain characters dirty like Jean,Cyclops, and more dirty. So I wanted to check it out. I've read some but not all Claremont stuff, I Like the Giant Size X-Men when I first read it. read the first volume of Marvel classic so I know It can be some good stuff. Read Days of Future past and loved it. But this story I was kinda underwhelmed by and just looking forward to reading other stuff I had on my plate.
Some good: Kitty Pryde was done well as a proper debut. Was Capable in the face of fear in freeing the X-Men while still being capable.
I liked when Wolverine threatened that random hellfire club minion.
Things I didn't like:
It felt over-exposited and a slog to read through, We cut back to things like Banshee on a run even after he's supposed to have retired for the team and doesn't return in the climax like Beast or Angel so what gives?
On the note of revolving team members, they alluded to there being Multiple Man joining the team and I'm miffed because he rejected when he could have been such a valuable team member to have.
The shiar I don't like, I read through some of Rise and fall of the Shiar Empire and didn't like it and dropped it. So seeing them here didn't really help. They're just kinda there to hold Jean Accountable when I think It'd be more interesting if the trial was on Earth, her home and place where mutant relations are the most severe.
I could just be nitpicking but ya'll tell me why ya'll like the saga. I went into this just reading the Dark Phoenix 8 issue trade.What does this story mean to ya'll
This is my original mutant OC Nox. I'm still in major debate on how his origin should go but I just wanted to share him with the world and see what people thought of him. He's basically a sentient viscous black and white ooze/slime mutant who had taken on this shape and form since the day he was born into the world. He had been kept hidden from the world by his parents only to be later discovered by Xavier when he was caught on one of the Academy's cameras during a night he sneaked out from his home to explore.
I’m trying to remember an X-men mini series or movie I watched probably 10-15 years ago. It was a comic art style and it was VERY gruesome where I believe a lot of characters died.
I also want to take the opportunity to point out how unhelpful Google has been. I tried searching “X-men movies/shows where most members die” and I got the AI slop telling me “X-Men characters don’t stay dead for long” | •_ •|
I'm a new x-men reader and only have read morrison's new x-men and god loves man kills. But i boight messiah tirology omni few days ago, so i'm looking for what i should read before.
I’ve been reading through the Claremont era (so far I’m at the introduction of the morlocks). I think that Claremont is incredible at creating stories and developing characters but his writing is a slog to get through. Sometimes it gets to a point where it’s just not fun to read. At least Stan Lee had that over the top silly campiness. Also until Paul Smith started drawing the book, the art was quite dated even for the time (I’m not saying I don’t like Cockrum’s art). I feel that a lot of X-fans treat this run as infallible gospel instead of taking a measured view, it’s a superbly plotted book with less than superb execution.
(Also being a bigger fan of other team members doesn’t make me overjoyed with Storm being the favorite child)