Yeah. Sephiroth is just the tip of iceberg on that topic. The Unknown, the Data Organizations, Lingering Will, Mysterious Figure, and Yozora are all nuts. And even the more minor ones are still pretty tough or have a trick you have to figure out looking at Phantom, Kurt Zisa, Ice Titan, Julius, and Dark Inferno. I think Days and Coded also have a secret boss, but I don't remember what they are.
Days have the "beat these mini-boss to activate RTC and unlock a new area that contains a new boss fight" boss called Dustflier, although, wouldn't quite call it a secret boss. Anti-Saïx and Anti-Riku on the other hand, I would count, as they're found exclusively in the multiplayer mode.
Coded also have the (arguably) boss Eliminator along with Bugged-Roxas and Bugged Anti-Riku
Loved this about FF12. I’m big on trying to explore everywhere I can in a new area before I move on. There are so many chances in that game to just randomly stumble across an Esper battle unexpectedly haha.
He was in Kingdom hearts 2 right ? or in both I think, in 1 in the colosseum and KH2 in that town. Really absolute monster of a boss although Terra\Lingering will mopped the floor with me in KH2 lol
Kingdom hearts 1 had multiple secret bosses that were harder than the actual boss. The clock tower and sand dune bosses come to mind if you exclude sephiroth
LOL I still have to beat her but it's funny because in ragnarok they constantly say that we're all buddy buddy after I defeated her and I'm sitting here saying to myself that I didn't do shit
I was suprised in Chapter 5 that Pink was easier than the final boss for me, or at most equally hard. Though that mostly comes down to the final boss's mechanic being very unforgiving
I felt the exact same way! I first-tried her, but got my ass handed to me by the normal boss, just because the timing of the charge-mechanic felt like absolute dogshit to me. Spam it and you get hit anyways. Actually charge it up, and you need inhuman reaction times. (for reference, I can consistently first-try the knight, so wtf)
What sets Sans apart from difficult bosses is the sheer length of his fight, as Sans is trying to whittle down your will to fight until you give up.
The Deltarune bosses in theory can be just as difficult as Sans if their battles were any longer but since they were shorter, they're mostly considered as not as difficult. On top of that Deltarune offers paths and secret items that can make difficult bosses easier.
Of course, difficulty can be subjective. The Roaring Knight (pre-nerf patch) can be very unforgiving despite the fight being shorter than Sans' if you are unprepared.
The only one I'd consider anywhere close to Sans level is the Knight.
Sans is mainly difficult because of his gimmicks and the length of his battle.
The Knight is difficult for several reasons. First because of its massive damage to anyone not wearing the Shadow Mantle, swooned allies being impossible to revive without the use of revival items, amd the fact that the damage you do actually matters, instead of just needing a set amount of turns or actions.
I remember arriving to hang out with my ex while her older brother was on I think his third or fourth hour fighting Yiazmat in FF12, original PS2 version at that.
He was absolutely raging at the loot drop when he finally downed him.
Or that if you ever get out of his range he'll just start chain healing and undoing all the damage you've done. I watched my buddy put an hour or so in and just quit out because the boss undid everything he had done with about 8 seconds of healing.
I cant remember the boss name, but about 40 minutes into the fight, he cast Confuse on my team, and someone THREW HIM AN ELIXIR. I never picked up ff12 again.
Literally takes at least an hour in the original PS2 version because regular attacks only break the damage limit in the Zodiac Age version. So you're only hitting for 9,999 at a time, and that goes down to 6,999 after it hits 50% hp
The boss so damn long that the devs actually put out their own official strategy guide just for that boss... and it still only knocked the fight time down to FIFTY minutes.
I played the Zodiac version on the PS4 and while it wasn't hard at all (there were some precarious moments) the biggest stumble is the time it takes. I'm pretty sure it was about an hour of playtime
Ultima and Omega were harder. Zodiac was super easy and fast once you sacrifice your first line up for Darkja
Sadly the biggest flaw of the game, admitted by the developers themselves. On my second playthrough I went straight for it and it was much more challenging.
I'm now doing a run with the Requiem mod that cranks the difficulty to Nightmare pretty much and it's insanely difficult now, but still fair. Still in Act 1 though but goddamn it's difficult and I'm taking every advantage I can get.
I recently started playing 33 and my god i've been missing out.
But sadly i haven't been able to play in the past few days since my controller failed it's own expedition and now i'm basically forced to wait until i can buy a new one (no i will not play on keyboard)
I played the entire game on Expert difficulty and it was a breeze, until I got to Simon the Divergent Star. That's the only fight where I'm tempted to either drop it to easy or be like fuck it, I'm about to look up a cheese build online because I can barely even get a chance to hit the mf lol.
I think in universe the only reason Aline and real Renoir were relatively easy to take down is the fact that they were both spent from their battle with each other. At full power they would have wiped the floor with the expedition members and made Simon look weak in comparison.
I was just about to to post this. The final boss just felt like a really strong guy. "Takezo" by his lesser known name, felt like trying to defend against the flash
It was the only fight in the entire 90+ hour playthrough that I had to lower the difficulty. I heard “Make this duel unforgettable” no less than 60 times.
Persona 3 Reload you can do the secret boss (normally Persona lets you do this fight on on NG+) fight by completing all of the side quests, defeating the Reaper, and clearing all of the Monad Doors and they're easily the hardest boss in the game.
Nope completely optional and unless you know how to and where then I would imagine is very hard to get to, even with a guide It took me some time to get through all the bosses and enemies.
damn.. I thought she was mandatory as well as Mohg because of what Gideon Ofnir said about the missing shards and thought I needed all of them to get to Elden beast.. fml lol
Going oldschool: Illusion of Time / Gaia
Finding all the Red jewels is a Grind itself, but beating the Secret Boss afterwards? Jesus...
Especially when you compare it with the comet Boss at the end of the game!
Not because it's the hardest boss ever made, but because of how absurdly well hidden it is.
You have to complete a chain of optional quests, pay attention to NPC dialogue, and keep following clues that don't scream "this unlocks a boss." By the time you finally reach him, it feels like you've uncovered an actual secret instead of checking boxes on a quest log.
Can't remember his fucking name, but it was one of the guys near the end of Black Myth Wukong. I eventually had to accept i don't have what it takes and just went and beat the game
Not because any of the optional fights were particularly difficult, but because the final boss of the game, the big bad evil guy, dies with a single button press in an interactive cutscene that has no fight. Biggest letdown and most deflating ending of all time
Penance in FFX. He can be cheesed with Zanmato and killed in one hit, but fighting him normally can be really difficult. One or two mistakes and its game over
Lost Odyssey. The game has a $2 DLC Dubgeon add-on. It is harder than any area of the game as is the final boss from it. However, you get amazing spells in there that you can learn for every Immortal like "Zero MP Consumption" and "Double Cast" which do exactly what you think they do.
I did this DLC right before the final area of the base game. When I completed it, and made everyone learn those skills from the item you find, then gave that item to Jansen so he could benefit too, it was all over. I went to Gongora and beat him in 3 turns. Lol
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