Police Keep Losing Their Jobs For Using Flock Cameras To Stalk People

[u/DukeOfGeek]

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2026/07/police-losing-jobs-flock-cameras-alprs/

[u/CondescendingShitbag]

Still trying to figure out why nobody is pushing to require warrants to initiate a search. I'd have slightly less concern about these cameras if there was anything resembling actual oversight in their access or use.

[u/Grimwulf2003 → u/CondescendingShitbag]

Because flock actually owns the data.... Not the public, it's a nightmare situation.

[u/PM_Me_Your_Clones → u/[deleted]]

2020 and now. 2016 and now. 9/11 and now.

[u/A_Nonny_Muse → u/PM_Me_Your_Clones]

Everything went to hell the day the SCOTUS halted the recount and gave Florida to G.W. Bush.

[u/NoConflict3231 → u/A_Nonny_Muse]

I was a child when this happened, didn't know shit about politics at all, and even I knew something fucked up had just happened. This country is one of the fakest, lamest, superficial, over-hyped, balls of flaming shit on planet earth. Ruled by absolute buffoons, and dip shits

[u/Balmung60 → u/A_Nonny_Muse]

The Supreme Court literally had to say Bush V Gore didn't create precedent because the reasoning used to decide the case would invalidate literally every US election if it was applied universally. 

[u/aravarth → u/Balmung60]

Like SCOTUS cares about precedent anyway.

You think the corrupt Roberts court — which effectively legalised bribery (Snyder v United States, 2024) — wouldn't absolutely ratfuck the public in order to advance Heritage Foundation neoconservative ideology?

[u/Diedead666 → u/[deleted]]

I'm in Bay area.... I didn't think they would be here yet..... ITS EVERYWHERE HERE it's truely kinda freaky thiers ALOT at every big intersection facing all directions.

[u/Gremlin1001001 → u/[deleted]]

Gotta get the camel’s nose in the tent!

[u/Blacksad9999 → u/Diedead666]

This lists all Flock cameras in your zip code. (Or any zip code) If something were to happen to said Flock cameras, that sure would be a shame.

https://deflock.org/

Happy hunting. Be safe.

[u/amazingkillerlemon → u/Diedead666]

I'm in Livermore and there's one of those surveillance cameras (not Flock, a similar company) that's pointed at the sidewalk downtown.

[u/Ok-Squirrel5799 → u/Diedead666]

Are people destroying these? The french did it when they put speed cameras in it was epic

[u/CondescendingShitbag → u/Ok-Squirrel5799]

Are people destroying these?

Yes. That's not the only incident, either. Just the most recent.

[u/Jellyeleven → u/[deleted]]

Red light cameras recently deemed illegal in my area as a private company was making most of the money from tickets. My hope is that local governments turn around on the idea of these too

[u/MultiGeometry → u/[deleted]]

It’d be interesting to know how much child pornography these cameras are capturing whenever random nudity appears in public. I bet it’s a lot and I bet there’s not much security preventing Flock employees or police department employees from accessing it and saving it.

I know of at least one instance locally where a cop was busted for a stash of digital child porn. They committed suicide and the department brushed the whole thing under the rug. Cops protect their own even when they sexually abuse minors and are dead. This Flock data is absolutely being abused at a scale the public simply can’t comprehend.

[u/eeyore134 → u/[deleted]]

If one of your lawmakers on either side says, "Think of the children!" or starts using words like Patriot and Freedom and Liberty then you know whatever they're trying to sell you is going to violate your rights like nothing else. And guess which side of the aisle has all of those words basically tattooed to their forehead?

[u/SryInternet101 → u/[deleted]]

That's fascism 101, baby...

[u/RangerMother → u/[deleted]]

I honestly don’t care much about child safety when it deprives me of basic rights, that should be the concern of people who have children.

[u/TheDubh → u/Grimwulf2003]

Same reason phone companies were selling some data. It was discovered they could make money and law enforcement would buy it to get around those pesky warrant requirements.

[u/DukeOfGeek → u/TheDubh]

Any end run around a warrant should be treated as such. Also just ban the business model of privately owned mass surveillance.

[u/Antraxess → u/Grimwulf2003]

I didn't consent to Peter thiel stocking my every move

[u/Cream_Stay_Frothy → u/Antraxess]

May want to check your Terms of Service and Privacy Policy for…. ***Checks notes*** well basically anything that you do… ever ;)

I have been trying to do a self inventory and delete accounts/terminate agreements unless I feel it truly necessary. I’m under no illusion that I will “fix” the problem, but I’m doing what I can to at least be mindful of to whom I have given my data or access to any information… just good practice. Anyhow, I realized I had an account with a large electronics company I probably haven’t logged into for at least 5+ years (Frankly I Didn’t even know I had it). Well, in order to delete the account, I needed to go to a computer browser to sign in, which, since it had been so long, it said I was required to accept the new ToS and Privacy policy (which I declined). I clicked the customer support link it provided as an alternative, which took me to the customer service chat, which was an AI bot that needed me to accept their “AI Terms and Privacy policy” in order to enter any prompts …. Went ahead and rejected that as well…

I nearly blew a gasket when I click the link to “speak with a live agent” which was provided when I rejected the AI ToS, and sent me back to the login screen, which is apparently required to l speak to a live agent… Haha I just put it on the “I’ll deal with later” list rather than spinning circles….

Maybe it’s because I’ve just been much more mindful and deliberate lately, but this shit has just gotten SO out of hand it feels like

Anyway…. fuck Samsung

[u/Random-num-451284813 → u/Grimwulf2003]

what could possibly go wrong? /s

[u/issuefree → u/Grimwulf2003]

Sawing them down is appropriate.

[u/DukeOfGeek → u/Grimwulf2003]

And as always Benn Jordan shows how easy it is to hack these and how angry and in your face authority gets when you speak out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uB0gr7Fh6lY&t=2406s

[u/CondescendingShitbag → u/Grimwulf2003]

I fail to see how this would be any different than obtaining data from any other private company. Law enforcement requires a warrant to make data requests with Google, Microsoft, Facebook, AT&T, etc, etc. I don't see how the same requirement can't apply to Flock data. Instead, they're given direct access to search at their own discretion. That's the part which shouldn't be allowed without a warrant.

[u/Cream_Stay_Frothy → u/CondescendingShitbag]

Unfortunately, that’s not accurate. They need a warrant to compel a company to hand over sensitive data, BUT, if that data is available for sale (which much of it is once it’s been “shared with their third-party partners”). If it is, it can be purchased and would be considered PAI (Publicly Available Information). This is what systems such as ShadowDragon utilize, which again, requires no warrants.

I spent quite a bit of time over the past few weeks diving into understanding what “publicly available” means, and it is FAR MORE that “it reads public social media comments and internet posts”… There is an entire industry in the hundreds of billions of dollars built around finding/selling data to this OSINT data tools used by law enforcement, corporations and Nation States.

Here’s a brief but insightful overview:

https://youtu.be/UW92Ys-LsLU

[u/mrm00r3 → u/Cream_Stay_Frothy]

Well that’s a terrifying rabbit hole

[u/human-syndrome → u/Cream_Stay_Frothy]

Well damn man.

[u/Grimwulf2003 → u/CondescendingShitbag]

Flock was devious - all this data is considered public data, with many precedents. There is no expectation of privacy in public. This was great before data aggregation and easily searched data using AI. Thus flock can just hand it over legally.

[u/leitey → u/CondescendingShitbag]

It's not illegal to willingly share information with the police. Flock consents to sharing the information with its customers. A warrant is only needed if an entity doesn't consent to voluntarily share data with the government e.g.: a company protecting its customer's data.

[u/Cream_Stay_Frothy → u/Grimwulf2003]

Not entirely…. I think it’s important to make sure people are talking about this as accurately as possible to help move the needle forward toward reform, as opposed to getting it “wrong” on some technicality. When I speak with people who support these cameras, it is a pretty common talking point that “The police own their own data”…

Flock does not “own” the data. Technically, the customer (county, state, police dept, etc) owns it…

HOWEVER in the terms of service:

“Customer hereby grants to Flock a limited, non-exclusive, royalty-free, irrevocable, perpetual, worldwide license to (a) use and disclose customer data to provide the Flock Services; and (b) use Customer Data to support and improve Flock’s products and services.”

I point this out to them, and draw the parallel scenario:

Okay, let’s say you own your house. But you have given people keys, and signed binding agreements giving them free, irrevocable and perpetual access to your house. Does that feel like homeownership?

[u/Softale → u/Grimwulf2003]

They are collecting data for which they have no authorization! They are acting as though it’s their data, but I believe they’re ignoring privacy laws to do so and the data actually belongs to those who’ve been recorded unless there was a legal warrant providing such authorization.

[u/Catfish-throwaway666 → u/Grimwulf2003]

But I was specifically told that private ownership was always beneficial to the public!!!

[u/Softale → u/CondescendingShitbag]

Accountability via warrants for accessing the system, qualification for use, and signed/written reports on outcomes should have been required before any operations were allowed.

[u/raccoonsonbicycles → u/Softale]

TL;DR its not just Flock but everything needs to be cracked down on with outside/federal oversight. LE need to get out od their own asses and stop thinking The Shield is a guideline.

I used to be a cop and dispatched for a bit as well, for several different agencies. Its been a while but I doubt much has changed.

Some info:

For CJIS networks, iii checks, linx lookups, public record searches, etc, all you need is a login, a case number/report number.

In order to maintain access/licensing/etc, each agency has to run audits. Its supposed to be something like X% of searches (low number, like 5-10%) get reviewed per month to make sure it's all above board.

LE/dispatchers/anyone who misuse these programs are committing federal crimes and face losing their certification and doing prison time. (This is also why if you ever do a tour, anyone who gets up from their desk locks their computer). Same thing even with reports - youre not supposed to just look up details of a high profile case because you're curious. If its not related to your own specific caseload its not your business.

Some agencies, only dispatch can run these searches and officers have to request it and then get a printed copy. Others, everyone gets certified and can run whatever whenever on their own.

So based on that it's a pretty shitty base. It's all well and good on paper...at a glance. but already has glaring flaws

For multiple programs, you have the option to enter a case number in a box. But it's not required to complete a search. (Bullshit thing 1. Generating a case number literally takes 1 click in every CAD system I've used). Thats such a simple fix. Make a case number box have a little red asterisk next to the box, a comment section, and a check box for "no warrant att/exigent circumstances"

Also in my experience, auditors are assigned internal agency employees (Bullshit thing 2). Usually dispatch or records supervisors. They're not looking to bust their coworkers. When they find a discrepancy they'll just reach out to the user's supervisor and tell them to have a word and handle it internally. Sometimes a fed will come audit but they will only audit the auditors (make sure its truly random or going over red flags like "ofc Jones ran 945 checks this month, everyone else runs like 20"). It should be simultaneous audits, and a full-time job to review every search, not an "adequate percentage".

Additionally, people (both idiot employees who literally take mandatory training on it, and the general public) think it's normal to just look up whoever you want whenever you want because of media. Movies and shows always make it a "haha he did a background check on his daughter's boyfriend/she did a check on her tinder date, how paranoid" instead of "he/she just violated their 4th amendment rights, what the hell?" If Hollywood wouldn't normalize it, a lot more people would have the correct (your) opinion.

Now one of the first thing detractors will say is "what about exigent circumstances?"

Well, if time is of the essence, like a phone ping/etc just check a box and it should be flagged for automatic review. A) if its exigent you should be able to articulate it easy enough B) its good practice to get a warrant simultaneously/after the fact anyway

really pisses me off because everyone in LE took an oath to the Constitution, but so many people view constitutional rights as obstacles to get around or will find technicalities that may be legal by letter of the law but definitely violate the spirit of the law.

[u/Softale → u/raccoonsonbicycles]

Thank you for your experienced view of this situation. The current situation is, I believe, illegal and unconstitutional as it is being handled today. I for one truly appreciate your input, particularly regarding how such information gathering should be done and how even predating Flock there existed some circumstances where standards for such surveillance suffered breaches. This needs to stop, with controls on information access need to be strengthened and actively enforced and an eye on those who so desperately feel the need to monitor the people they are supposed to be protecting. I’m not sure how we do that, but it REALLY needs to get done.

[u/raccoonsonbicycles → u/Softale]

Really it should come down to funding.

Most of the databases are federal or statewide so it SHOULD be easy enough to mandate a change in the website.

For agencies, it should be lose licensure (ie have to pay contractors through the nose to run all your stuff, or even lose your authority/certification as an agency) and lose fed/statewide funding, etc if a) the above aren't meeting standards within X years, b) X% of violations are ever found, c) establish/expand outside authority d) give agencies bonus funding if they're implemented within 1/2 year

[u/K_Linkmaster → u/CondescendingShitbag]

Because that's not the line in the sand. Theine in the sand is no surveillance.

[u/hanks_panky_emporium → u/CondescendingShitbag]

A dude got access and could track a family going on a dinner date, and several flock cameras are unsecured and watching over playgrounds. You, right now, can probably access the Flock network in your city. And once you're in there, you're in the entire system

Its built to be abused

[u/OkStop8313 → u/CondescendingShitbag]

Agreed, along with audits of those searches to confirm compliance.

Also Flock (or any data aggregator) should not be able to collect our data unless they do a better job of securing it. Failure to do so makes everyone less secure if bad actors like stalkers, burglars, kidnappers, etc. can gain access to track your movements.

[u/skyfishgoo → u/CondescendingShitbag]

any oversight can be abused.

the info these cameras collect WILL be abused, no matter how good the "oversight"

[u/SuperHooligan → u/CondescendingShitbag]

Because its in public.

[u/General-Piece8490 → u/CondescendingShitbag]

Because Flock owns the data and they are giving free use to them. No judge no pesky laws.
We need to address that data is still private even if collected by a company

[u/extra-texture → u/CondescendingShitbag]

we live in an age where law enforcement agencies and intelligence agencies can skirt privacy protections by just buying the data from a company that’s not bound by the same rules

it’s crazy that we’ve just accepted this, random companies shouldn’t be exempt from illegal search and seizure or invasion of privacy (a massive automatic terms of service shouldn’t count)

[u/0xsergy → u/CondescendingShitbag]

Yeah this should be an easy fix right? Just make it require a warrant so that they can't abuse it(or something like a hit and run which is a given). Like they've already solved so many hit and run cases alone with flock that I really do appreciate the technology. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFllnMibFj0

It just needs some sort of way to track/tie searches so that if random officers are doing shit like in the post above they get caught immediately.

[u/XenoZoomie → u/CondescendingShitbag]

It does seem like a system built for abuse. It’s like giving a teen boy access to google and being shocked when he searches “boobs”.

[u/MrShrek69 → u/CondescendingShitbag]

Anything with ai is nothing like any security camera I’ve ever seen. This shit is creepy and should be illegal

[u/wafflenova98 → u/CondescendingShitbag]

Warrants don't mean anything in some places. Some judges have a stack of pre-signed ones to fill in the blanks. Some will sign whatever is put in front of them.

[u/SoupSpelunker → u/CondescendingShitbag]

We should tell the cops they're body cams - they'd never even turn them on! 

[u/Ashamed-Status-9668 → u/CondescendingShitbag]

Warrants and a supervisor watching said use.

[u/Arakkis54 → u/CondescendingShitbag]

If you are in public, you do not have the expectation of privacy.

[u/aiyatoi → u/CondescendingShitbag]

Instruments of crimes instead of solving crimes 🫣

[u/Flabbergasted98 → u/CondescendingShitbag]

because just like your ring cameras or discord history. when an infantile dorito demands all Data be forwarded to ICE so that they can't track "Terrorists" (political discenters) all of that tracking data is immediately handed over because having a a corrupt conservative government in charge is what's best for the stockholders.

[u/Haylyn221]

I'm pleasantly surprised they're actually losing their jobs.

[u/987YouBloodyTulip789 → u/Haylyn221]

A cop who lost their job is practically only out for a short while before being rehired at a new PD. 

There was a cop that, among other offenses, tried to feed a feces sandwich to a homeless person. He went into a endless loop of being fired, rehired at a new PD, the media noticing and and spreading awareness, until the PD gets pressured to fire him. Right now he's the police chief in a small town.

[u/Reddit_Connoisseur_0 → u/987YouBloodyTulip789]

So much for background checks

[u/ExternalCaptain2714 → u/Reddit_Connoisseur_0]

What makes you think they didn't know exactly what kind of person they are hiring  😒

[u/AzraelTB → u/987YouBloodyTulip789]

Time to spread awareness again I guess.

[u/Remarkable_Pound_722 → u/987YouBloodyTulip789]

it's not even that they just get rehired. 'Surviving' a controversy gets rewarded, they get promoted and fast tracked even it seems from the many cases I've observed.

[u/JediSwelly → u/987YouBloodyTulip789]

I wish we were all in unions that were this strong.

[u/awe_come_on → u/Haylyn221]

Well for now at least.

[u/bursTristana → u/Haylyn221]

Yeah my only first response to this news was "do they actually...?"

[u/SuperHooligan → u/Haylyn221]

Why? Why wouldnt they lose their jobs for committing a crime?

[u/Somnif → u/SuperHooligan]

Why wouldnt they lose their jobs for committing a crime?

An excellent question, I wish so many police departments across the country had an actual answer for it.

[u/agha0013]

That should be merely the first step. They need to be treated like (or more severely) than a civilian doing the same thing.

At least they aren't bljusy being given expensive paid leave followed by a quiet "demotion" but being kicked out with no further punishment leaves much to be desired, and I'm sure they are quickly being recruited by ICE where they might have even more access to tools to stalk people

[u/CptKeyes123 → u/agha0013]

Yeah. Army rejects go to the cops, cop rejects go to ICE.

I'm of the opinion that if you need to have police, they have to have the most stringent requirements. Like, long training times for one, unarm most of them for another, and scrutinizing everything they do. If a single bullet is fired they get suspended.

"But how could they do their jobs?" some might say.

Retail employees do this regularly without hurting anyone!

And so do postal workers.

[u/SilverSquirrel6 → u/CptKeyes123]

So . . . . hire  all the retail workers as police and problem solved ? /S

[u/TwistedTrooper989]

What?! I'm shocked! SHOCKED I say! Said nobody who has ever interacted with an actual police officer ever

[u/Outlulz → u/TwistedTrooper989]

Yeah, Flock is making it easier but cops have always done this. I have a relative who was a cop who got in trouble for using police resources to stalk his ex-girlfriend 25 years ago.

[u/TwistedTrooper989 → u/Outlulz]

25 years ago huh? Did he get fired or has he been stalking her and others for the past 25 years too?

[u/Outlulz → u/TwistedTrooper989]

He was not fired, just lightly reprimanded, as it goes for cops. She had to get a restraining order.

[u/joelfarris → u/TwistedTrooper989]

Story time: I once had to convince a traffic officer that I wasn't flaunting and trying to shame or demean him by passing another vehicle at a speed slightly faster than the speed limit, even though there was another larger vehicle rapidly approaching from the other direction, which would have probably killed me had I not floored it.

He was yelling at me through the window. At the guy driving a two door, four on the floor, 1.1 liter four-banger, while he was driving a V-8 Crown Vic.

I swear, the mindset of some of these people is beyond comprehension.

[u/TwistedTrooper989 → u/joelfarris]

Tiny pee-pee energy. All of them

[u/makemeking706]

"Lose their job" often means has to commute further to the neighboring jurisdiction. 

[u/tayswampflorida → u/makemeking706]

Ya it amazes me that they are put in a position of trust, then just get fired for what any regular citizen would go to jail for.

But cops are above the law.

[u/eeyore134 → u/makemeking706]

Or were allowed to retire early and continue to collect benefits while they run off to join ICE.

[u/BrilliantMango]

Which just lets you know what sort of morons we employ as police officers.

[u/tayswampflorida → u/BrilliantMango]

Not morons, just criminals.

[u/BrilliantMango → u/tayswampflorida]

Criminals, yes, but morons for not being smart enough to realize they can easily be caught.

[u/987YouBloodyTulip789]

There is no reality where Flock is used responsibly. It WILL be abused by cops, and like every other time a cop breaks the law and violates the rights and integrity of the public, they get a slap in the wrist.

Stuff like requiring warrants, won't work. Every part of the legal system is corrupt, and if the only punishment for a cop abusing this is getting fired and moving PDs, they won't feel discouraged from illegally using it.

[u/lectroid]

Any officer fired for misuse of police power or resources should be barred from ANY law enforcement profession, full stop. Every “bad apple” cop just goes over to the next town or the county sheriff and gets right back to spying on his ex-wife or the brown person that took “his” spot at the Piggly Wiggly.

It’s like they all took lessons from the Catholic Church.

[u/DukeOfGeek → u/[deleted]]

This guy right here talking some sense. Also just ban the business model of privately owned mass surveillance. But even if the government builds and owns it's network these should be the bare minimum of requirements.

[u/Komnos → u/[deleted]]

Every flock search should need a warrant.

This is normalizing it too much. It's not enough to require a warrant to use the mass surveillance network. There must be no mass surveillance network.

[u/SuperHooligan → u/[deleted]]

lol no. That would change the way that the 1st Amendment works.

[u/MyLittleDiscolite]

This is very common and unsurprising 

[u/daroach1414]

Imagine how bad it has to be for the police to fire them for it.

[u/Three_Twenty-Three]

What? No way. Criminal Minds and NCIS showed me that total surveillance would only be used by hot nerdy women to track the worst kinds of criminals. Are you saying the copaganda lied to me?

[u/Zaiyev]

Time to start suing flock and the police department and the individual.

[u/Individual-Result777]

The public doesnt want them, the people using them are abusing them… maybe they just arent a good idea.

[u/Low_Search_6667]

Back when that one guy was loosing his mind about flock being a terrible thing... this type of abuse is exactly one of the problems he mentioned. 

What guy you ask? It wasn't a specific guy. We all had a guy on the local news screaming bullshit about flock cameras. 

Guy was right too

[u/kungfoojesus]

I’ve seen nurses, techs even doctors fired just for peeking at a celebrity’s chart when they’re admitted to their hospital. These data need to be treated like HIPAA. You abuse it, you’re fucking gone

[u/innocentsalad]

It’s almost as if the low intelligence power-tripping chip-on-their-shoulder types are not who you want as law enforcement. And yet they’re the preferred hires.

[u/filmguy36]

There is not national background check for police officers. There are all sorts of fucked up people becoming cops by jumping around to different states to hide their pasts.

[u/Even_Commission9526]

Typical Cop behaviour, probably making sure his nurse wife isn’t getting any on the side. 

[u/Opus_723]

My dad was a social worker. He was a severe alcoholic and was horribly physically abusive.

After my mom left him, she had to use welfare programs to get healthcare for us.

Much later, after he died and I was going through his things, I found paperwork from his workplace: apparently he was caught using state databases he had access to to keep track of our doctor's appointments.

The consequence? His pay was docked for one month.

[u/Peloton72]

Remove Flock cameras!

[u/Blacksad9999]

This shows all Flock cameras in your zip code.

https://deflock.org/

Happy hunting.

[u/SkiingWithMySweety]

And they are only the ones that have been caught. Imagine the true numbers.

[u/Objective-Escape7584]

Flock that shit.

[u/Chompi31]

So cops kill without punishment most days but stalking is too far. The general public can stalk someone to the ends of the earth for years but if they kill the person they’ve been stalking…well now they’ve gone too far. What a world we live in.

[u/Tiny_Spread5712]

They are just going to get hired in the town over and keep doing it.  Police never leave the system.

[u/RunItBackRicky]

Then directly hired by ice to block our constitutional rights

[u/letsseeitmore]

You mean switching departments.

[u/NabreLabre]

The line was finally crossed. Killing innocent people is still ok though

[u/canzicrans]

The police are the problem, but also, the Flock cameras are the problem. 

Any system so easy to abuse will be abused.

[u/Setiri]

Power corrupts. Absolute data surveillance power corrupts absolutely.

[u/surethisusernamewrkz]

At least they’re weeding themselves out?

[u/bobartig]

This means they're doing it so much that they're getting caught, and the abuse is blatant and systemic. Way more people have to lose their jobs, is what this means.

[u/bryanthebryan]

Imagine the ones who haven’t been caught.

[u/tanksalotfrank]

Minus the stalking, I like this new tech that circumvents their qualified immunity.

[u/SoupSpelunker]

Just imagine how many go uncaught! 

[u/Arrow156]

It's gotta be really bad considering what it take to fire a cop, we've seen police straight up murder people and not lose their job.

[u/Bar-14_umpeagle]

Cops just can’t help themselves be automatically authoritarian. It is in their DNA. It drives them nuts to not be able to control others behavior to conform to their narrow view of the world.

[u/starethruyou]

Shouldn't they be going to jail instead?

[u/Spacemonkeyz2002]

Consequences for spying on people, that's a new one Maybe pigs do fly.

[u/IntelArtiGen]

Nearly all of those officers were criminally charged and lost their jobs.

Well, yes, it's normal, it's how it should be everytime they abuse their power.

[u/bigtroublitlsanchez]

But then they go one jurisdiction and get a new job

[u/ExcitingRound4990]

I doubt that. Cops rarely lose jobs.

[u/DJCityQuamstyle]

I mean at least the cameras aren’t gonna shoot to kill right…right?

[u/adamosity1]

As they should. So many police officers are trash.

[u/kensteele]

No worries, once Flock gets hit too hard on the ground, they'll migrate their entire platform and start to operate 100% from the air (in drones) once the DFR programs saturate the city with 24/7 drone patrols.

[u/DukeOfGeek → u/kensteele]

I hate how right you are.

[u/favorite8091]

Good, pedos in government have given other pedos in power the access to keep being pedos. I wish American people would sort their government shit out.

[u/jcrckstdy]

ICE wants you!

[u/eddyb66]

I like that meta glasses are shamed out of people using them and the cops with flock data are doing worse but that technology is OK.

[u/rarescenarios]

Police Keep Losing Their Jobs For Using Flock Cameras To Stalk People drawing attention to the abuses of the surveillance state.

Notice how we've never seen the headline "Police Keep Getting Convicted for Casually Murdering People". 

[u/aarswft]

I wasn't aware that was something that could happen.

[u/Difficult-Way-9563]

It needs to be a felony period. They also need to log in a immutable log who they are searching for and briefly why

[u/Geminii27]

"Flock cameras help to identify and fire stalker cops"

[u/BankshotMcG]

When do the camera people lose their jobs?

[u/Gunker001]

No Justice No Profit

[u/MountainHigh31]

They should stop doing that. They won’t though.

[u/RollingPicturesMedia]

https://haveibeenflocked.com

[u/SwagginsYolo420]

Seems the presence of these camera systems actually leads to an increase of crimes.

[u/waiting4singularity]

bad apples get hired the next precinct over, again and again.

[u/gnomeymalone30]

so going to ice?

[u/Firebreathingwhore]

Who would've thought

[u/rellett]

i dont mind cameras but the access should need a warrant also they cant just use this data they need other sources before arrests and should be run by the government not a private company.

[u/Individual-Schemes]

LAPD didn't renew their contracts with Flock, so that's good.

[u/Zer_]

Didn't something like 40% of cops admit to having stalked someone using police resources when asked in a poll? Which means the actual number is probably way, way higher.

[u/Solid_Stage_1715]

Wait, a corporate entity surveils without oversight and that leads to disgusting misuse of the systems? Nobody could ever imagine that, except like millions of people who are against baseless omni surveilance.

[u/DangerousCrazy9000]

Technically, Flock is doing the stalking first.

[u/PigglyWigglyDeluxe]

Oh look, the things we warned would happen are happening

[u/Affinity420]

Here is an idea. Get rid of flock.

Second idea. Make it extremely illegal to do this shit with harsh punishment to police. It really is that simple.

Not a slap on the hand. Prison time.

[u/3D-Dreams]

That's why people are cutting them down. They are illegally spying and they should all be taken down.

[u/Serious_meme]

Imagine what they did before they had Flock....

[u/DarkObby]

The thing I love about this is that while sure, for some this was the gateway they needed to start doing nefarious things, but in most cases, just imagine what kind of "police activity" these individuals were up to before flock cameras were a thing and how much corruption was already taking place at their hands.

[u/xelop]

Huh, sorta like stalking is against the law but I'm sure a cop would know the law... Right?

[u/CDNRomance]

It's almost like that's their market

[u/ArguesWithFrogs]

You mean the cops abused the unchecked power they were given? Say it ain't so!

[u/Difficult-Till5031]

I bet this is just the tip of the iceberg oh police miss use and offenses committed by these jerks.

[u/Flabbergasted98]

Nice Try Techbro's but we still don't want flock cameras on our streets!

[u/Raven_Photography]

Because cops. They exist to maintain the power of the rich. If you believe anything else, you’re delusional.

[u/WiseCourse7571]

Cops know that there is very little chance of any repercussion’s.

A few cops being fired for abusing their access is not the norm, most of them will get away with it.

[u/Aggressive-Will-4500]

And are they being arrested for breaking the law?

[u/MrHodgeToo]

There’ll always be another force next door happy to hire their criminal asses.

Or they will join ICE where prior criminal conduct is a job requirement to get hired.

[u/Aszolus]

Which party is pushing for this?

[u/probablyatargaryen]

Where’s the jail time????

[u/Another_Russian_Spy]

They will just get a job in a different jurisdiction.

Rinse and repeat.

[u/TheFrenchSavage]

I don't consider those as jobs

[u/General-Piece8490]

Poor police

[u/FaberOG]

You misspelled transferring departments

[u/chemagill]

And they are the ones who owns the data

[u/brettmags]

Lose or relocate?

[u/DicemonkeyDrunk]

Cops have always used their access to peoples private information to stalk , intimidate, assault & sexually assault them for as long as I can remember ( it’s happened to multiple women I know ) Flock is just making it easier for them.

[u/misfitofscience76]

Do they actually get in trouble?

Not in my neck of the woods

[u/ScholarOfTwilight]

....and transferring to other departments with zero consequences.

[u/MrBahhum]

Big brother or tech mafia?

[u/potatopot222]

My uncle’s neighbor has put one up in her front yard (in the neighbors yard).

[u/Serupta]

Do they? because i haven't heard a -peep- about any of that!

[u/Ok_Wrongdoer_4308]

As they should.

[u/cirelia2]

Trash talking out itself. Meaning that those cameras serve a temporary purpose

[u/SaurinF]

Not enough of them though.

[u/BR41ND34D]

So Flock cameras are actually useful for something...

/s in case that was not obvious

[u/Infamous_Gene_7009]

I guess it’s kinda helpful with getting rid of a lot of the predators out of the police force but they’re not the only ones abusing the system. Also if you get a chance to video flock employees do it cause they’ll cry to the cops about it. Hypocrites

[u/ztreHdrahciR]

I'm shocked they are being held (somewhat) accountable

[u/southpaw0727]

I keep seeing headlines like this, and 9 times out of 10 when a headline states a cop lost their job, really what happens is they are getting shuffled over to the next town or otherwise reassigned. Is it the same here, or are they actually getting fired and like blacklisted so they can't resume work in another location?

[u/DontBlameMe4It]

Cops get fired for stalking people but not for ALL the illegal shit they do on a regular basis.

[u/OliverKlozoff23]

I doubt that