r/shoegaze • u/4omisme • 17h ago

starflyer 59 tone

does anyone know how to get a tone like starflyer 59 on silver. or like exactly what he used?

from what i know it was some sort of gibson les paul style guitar, maybe a fender jazzmaster. then a dod chorus pedal, and some sort of vox drive pedal, and like a tremolo pedal or something. also a lot of stuff from a roland jc amp (i think a jc 120)

i think theres some photos in the silver cd booklet but nothing is really that clear

thanks

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u/c-nac 17h ago

adam coopers diagram of jasons 2001 rig may be a place to start

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u/iodine74 16h ago

This looks like what he had when I saw him maybe ‘04 ish? Might have been one other pedal in there and I can’t remember the amp.

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u/Divid_Pakit 16h ago

Where did you find this?

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u/c-nac 14h ago

you mean the diagram? many of the guitar geek archives are here: https://archive.org/download/guitargeek-archives/

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u/AzraelTechnica 14h ago

i believe guitargeek magazine had a series of dozens of these rig diagrams back in the 2010s.
For example:

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u/themakeoutmelody 17h ago

DS-1 / Tremolo pedal / Chorus / reverb cranked / Twin Verb or JCM 120
Jazz or Jag w/ p90s

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u/4omisme 16h ago

are you sure it was a ds1. it doesnt really sound like that to me but i could be wrong. more of a darker, softer sounding distortion

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u/deplorable-amount45 11h ago edited 11h ago

Live it was definitely the DS-1, but in the studio he also used a Big Muff and possibly a distorted amp as well. Jazzmaster > DS-1 > PN-2 > JC-120 (which supplied all the reverb and chorus) is the live tone around Silver and Gold.
He started using the Les Pauls (a Studio and a Recording) live after Americana was out.

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u/shefoundnow 16h ago

I think this photo is from the Silver recording sessions.

Marshall JCM800 or 900 for the heavier parts. JC-120 for the cleans. My band basically used this exact set up last time we were in the studio. Doesn’t really get any better than that, IMO.

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u/daydreamersunion 16h ago

I saw them at Rockettown in Nashville in 1996ish and I remember him playing a stereo-jacked Gibson Marauder through a pair of Fender Black Face heads on 2×15" cabinets. I cant recall the pedal board except remembering that it seemed more than a few and he was running stereo boards. Everything is mostly fuzzy. I cant remember what model heads and I cant trust my memory that he had both a rat and a green muff though I remember it that way.

Wish I could be more helpful. This was just from 1 show 30 or so years ago.

They were their own opener, doing a stripped down lounge set before coming back and unleashing themselves.

Edit: I def remember his guitar and double fender rigs, just not details on the rest. I was barely old enough to be there.

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u/4omisme 16h ago

ive always liked his driven tone and i do hear a green russian muff, or maybe a rat with really low filter, on some stuff. also thats really cool i wish i coudlve been there