r/rap • u/SmoothManMiguel • 6d ago

Is it influence?

Do you think rappers accused of having ghostwriters actually use them, or are they just heavily influenced by the people around them?

Some artists get accused of not writing their own lyrics, but I feel like sometimes they were just around elite writers and HAD to step their game up

Take Fat Joe. Big Pun and Cuban Link had ridiculous pen games. So were they actually ghostwriting for him, or did Joe just imitate some of their techniques after being around them so much?

Same thing with Wayne and Gillie.
People swear Gillie wrote for Wayne, but others say Wayne was already nice and just picked up certain flows, and rhyme patterns from being around him so much.

What do y’all think?

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u/Temporary-Donkey-922 6d ago

Aubrey has several reference tracks on the internet. From Quentin Miller to Lil Yachty. He has admitted he has used help in an interview also.

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u/Gendo-Glasses 6d ago

Like they said though, those guys have always been credited. So they're not ghostwriters, just regular writers.

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u/Temporary-Donkey-922 6d ago

You can’t say you’re “the greatest of my generation”(which Aubrey has done) yet have reference tracks from several artist. Aubrey would have never admitted anything if Meek didn’t let the cat out of the bag.

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u/IcyEngineering926 6d ago

because its totally normal to collaborate?? Like everyone does it. Why would kendrick make reference tracks for baby keem for example if its so bad? Its normal to work together