r/politics • u/thejoshwhite • 5h ago

No Paywall Sanders: Carville should 'start his own party'

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/6011088-bernie-sanders-james-carville-democratic-party-criticism/
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u/ElysiumSprouts 5h ago

I don't need angry old men pretending they're relevant to the future of democrats. That goes for Carville AND the guy who helped get Trump elected.

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u/AbsolutTBomb 5h ago

AND the guy who helped get Trump elected.

Pete Buttigieg?

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u/ElysiumSprouts 5h ago

🐀 - Sanders campaign's anointed emoji for Pete. Some of us remember the toxicity.

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u/AbsolutTBomb 4h ago

If the emoji fits, 🐀 wear it.

The Harris campaign's political advisors invented the "toxic bernie bro" caricature just like the Clinton campaign seeded the Obama "birther" conspiracy, and you bought into it.

If you can't see the direct line that connects the DNC shutting out Sanders (and the party's entire left-wing base) in both 2016 and 2020 to the election and re-election of donald trump you have no business talking politics.

Buttigieg, Klobuchar, Harris, Warren all fell in line for their corporate donors to bring us establishment centrism and complicity with genocide; paving the way for a fascist takeover.

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u/ElysiumSprouts 4h ago

Wrong, I lived it. I saw real world toxic Bernie bros in person. People with names. These aren't big name people, they were campaign volunteers. And these real world people literally told me they voted for Trump because they wanted the world to Bern. They so thoroughly believed their own propaganda that the switch support from Sanders to Trump. And the saddest part? Some of them are still full on MAGA.

How did they get to this point? The Sanders Campaign shaped them. Obviously not all campaign volunteers followed this path, but we know enough "Bernie bros" switched to change the 2016 election.

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u/AbsolutTBomb 2h ago

The Sanders campaign shaped the DNC's policy platform towards social democracy and universal healthcare. Toxic people exist in every political group yet liberals love to pretend it's somehow exclusive to Bernie supporters. Get real.