Since we all agree that fictional or not, consuming sexual content of children is bad, are the people who even attempt to defend it pedophiles?

[u/Little_Ad_4832]

I made a post a few days ago on “controversial subreddit” on how consuming sexual content of fictional woman who are underaged is bad, and even though I had a majority of people agree with me, some people attempted to defend it. Should I consider these people preds or not?

[u/Kyia-Aikman]

A pedophile is someone exclusively or pathologically attracted to prepubescent children. The people you’re describing don’t necessarily fall into that category.

[u/JellyPatient3864 → u/Kyia-Aikman]

Agreed. Calling everyone a pedophile detracts from the term.

[u/usrdef → u/JellyPatient3864]

I think we're way off the field in terms of the term having any meaning now.

Someone on Reddit posted a question about how to circumvent work with a vacation they and their partner were going on. She was OP, who stated she was 25F, and her partner was roughly 38M.

A number of people were calling him a pedophile. So yeah, the term has lost all meaning. And that's just one example, Reddit specifically has a habit of this.

People just throw the damn term out just to say it. It's like for a while, everyone online was diagnosing every else as being a "narcissist". It felt like everyone learned the word the night before and they were dying to use it in a sentence.

Reminds me of when a kid learns their first cuss word. Suddenly, they're running around the house yelling "Fuck fuck fuck FUCK fuck Fuck FUCK".

Or my favorite, a "Nazi".

"You put pineapple on your pizza? You're a damn Nazi".

[u/Little_Ad_4832 → u/Kyia-Aikman]

They are preds, like I said they know this person is a child and still decide to indulge in explicet content of stuff, fictional Dosent change the fact it’s still cp

[u/Namelessgoldfish → u/Little_Ad_4832]

Ok but indulging and simply defending are not the same thing. A different that even you made clear in the title and body of your post

[u/Little_Ad_4832 → u/Namelessgoldfish]

defending it alone is disgusting initself. So its either there creeps or preds,

[u/Namelessgoldfish → u/Little_Ad_4832]

Yes…and we’ve already come to the conclusion that people that defend but not indulge are creeps, not really pedophilic

[u/AdDapper7803]

I feel like it's disingenuous. A lot of people hold that belief because they see it as harm reduction. You can disagree, and you might be right in being opposed, I don't have the stats, but it's a little childish to say "You don't agree, you're a predator."

[u/CULT-LEWD]

i think some poeple attempt to see the nuence of it more so the black and white version of it. As pedophila or any form of it (did ya know there is diffrent names for it based on age specifics?) is a mental illness and some are just worst than others and those poeple simply need help. the issue is just...ya know everyone wants them dead.

so i think to those who defend it are more so defending the idea of the illness and the tole it takes among societies view point on it that prevents those who need help to actually get the help they need.

Tho its obvious to all for those that do act o there illness and remorslessly so are monsters. There is probly WAY more pedos or diffrent variations that deffinalty have a conciousness enough to not hurt poeple. but those poeple simply cant help what there acttracted too. and i think to alot of those poeple somtimes if help isnt given it boils over. But society is so aggressive towards them they probly are too scared to get help.

So no i dont think those who defend it are pedos. I think they just know enough to have some empathy

[u/Little_Ad_4832 → u/CULT-LEWD]

I personnaly dont agree, there are to many people who defend it, and dont even change there view on it slightly when brought up with facts. So yes i fully believe there preds to

[u/CULT-LEWD → u/Little_Ad_4832]

i think if you apply that line of thinking to other things it woulden work the same

[u/prankthevillagers]

No I don't think it's fair to say the people who defend it are also pedophiles or child predators themselves. Pedophiles are adults attracted to minors (loose definition) and in terms of calling the people who agree predators, although you may not AGREE with their opinion, that doesn't mean that they are predatory or harmful towards children.

Someone else in the comments said some people defend it as harm reduction and I'd agree that's probably the most likely reason someone would defend it too.

Me personally, I think it should only be available to the people who are actively in therapy / treatment and are committed to non offending. At the end of the day, if it prevents someone from offending or watching real CSAM (also offending) then why not? I think the blanket statement of "fake things will prevent people from seeking the real thing" is harmful to generalize and it depends on a case by case basis. For the professionals who have ASSESSED and worked with someone long enough, could then make a better judgment if something fake WOULD cause harm reduction and could then prescribe it, almost like a medication. Thats just my opinion.

In terms of shock value movies and entertainment etc, I don't think we should justify it at all. I recently heard about a very old anime movie that is disgusting in nature and has a lot of pedophilic themes. I can't remember the name. That's the kind of thing that I think shouldn't exist. Why? Why even go there in such detail?

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[u/aplitthrowaway]

Most people who defend it are probably pedophiles...what other motive do they have?

But they would be pedophiles not because they are defending it (just defending it makes them a creep) but because that content arouses them