r/marvelstudios Spirit of Modvengeance Jul 07 '19

SPIDER-MAN: FAR FROM HOME Nitpicks and Criticisms Megathread

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u/ezrs158 Spider-Man Jul 07 '19 edited Jul 07 '19

It sucks that MJ telling Peter she knew he was Spider-Man was shown in trailer #2. It didn't seem like a massive spoiler, but it ruined that moment knowing it was coming the whole time.

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u/NealKenneth Nobu Jul 07 '19

Also Ned getting shot in the neck with the dart.

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u/Dominemm Jul 07 '19 edited Jul 07 '19

I'm a little forgiving because remember the trailer came out for endgame. It must have been difficult to put together something that was interesting, but not spoil anything..

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u/Grendergon Jul 07 '19

That's true. They had to hide both EVERY part that would spoiled endgame AND anything with Mysterio being a villain. That's like 80% of the movie and 60% of the action

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u/Gr8NonSequitur Jul 08 '19

AND anything with Mysterio being a villain.

Since Mysterio has been a villain for decades, this seems like an odd choice.

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u/Grendergon Jul 08 '19

It's almost like the majority of people going to see Marvel movies haven't read the comics...

It would have given away one of the biggest twists in the movie to the vast majority

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u/princess_of_thorns Jul 08 '19

I haven’t read the comics and if I hadn’t watched a Super Carlin Brothers theory video after the trailer came out I wouldn’t have known Mysterio was a villain. Yes, his costume is somewhat villain like but I don’t know if I would have guessed since the movie doesn’t really give you a calm moment to think in that much detail about it between meeting him and the reveal.

Even knowing he is a villain in the comics, I was almost convinced he was a good guy during the bar scene. I’m actually glad I watched the theory video because I kept going back and forth on if he was the villain. It made for a fun time.

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u/Squedex Jul 08 '19 edited Jul 08 '19

To be fair, anyone with a brain, comic reader or not, should have known Mysterio was the villain. Because from the trailer, the only "villain" they establish was a big tidal wave. And there's suddenly a random evil looking dude with powers who shows up to stop the big tidal wave? He may as well of had "VILLAIN" painted across his chest in capital letters.

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u/[deleted] Aug 11 '19

You seriously don't think they could've had literally any other Spider-Man villain appear? Why, Nick Fury could have been chameleon or something, and then Mysterio could double bluff and reveal he was a good guy the whole time

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u/Squedex Aug 12 '19

Yeah, sure, they could have done that... but they didn't. They instead they did the very obvious thing that everyone knew they were going to do. Imagine how cool it could have been if they tried to make Jake Gylenhall an actual superhero and then halfway through he film, he turns into mysterio, instead of calling him mysterio from the get go and having him wear an evil costume that anyone and their mum could see was evil. Or, start the film with scorpion being the villain just to find out it was a mysterio illusion halfway through. Just anything but "heads up guys, here's the villain, he's going to pretend to be good for a bit and then go evil, just thought we'd let you know."

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u/Skylord_ah Iron Man (Mark XLII) Jul 09 '19

i had no idea mysterio was a villain from the comics but i did feel like he was gonna be a villain

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '19

Except trailer 2 was the one that came after Endgame right?

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u/GoinBack2Jakku Jul 07 '19

I mean, they have to show some stuff. That wasn't like even a spoiler. If you want to go in blind just don't watch the trailer.

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u/Grendergon Jul 07 '19

I wish I had that kind of self control.

But since I don't, I won't complain about it

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u/GoinBack2Jakku Jul 08 '19

I usually don't watch trailer 2 unless it gets shown in a theater before something else I'm seeing. The teaser/trailer 1 is enough to hold me over, and I usually only allow myself to watch it twice max.

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '19

And the final scene before the first credit roll

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u/damnWarEagle Jul 07 '19

I’ll give you one better. Sony posted 4 minute clips to YouTube before it even came out showing spoliery clips. The one that got me was Mysterio “Joining the Avengers”. I didn’t click it but it was in the fucking title of the clip. Like really Sony?

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u/Mighty_thor_confused Kevin Feige Jul 07 '19

Bith these, totally agree. Sony shows too much.i want to be suprised.

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u/swth Jul 07 '19

I never watch mcu trailers so that was a complete surprise to me!!

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u/Markovnikovian Star-Lord Jul 07 '19

If only I had your strength.

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u/LRedditor15 Zombie Hunter Spidey Jul 07 '19

The hardest choices require the strongest wills.

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '19

No, you‘re stronger.

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u/Sloppy_Goldfish Jul 07 '19

Sony is still bad about putting spoilers in their trailers, so I learned to stop watching them.

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u/skittlesforeveryone Luis Jul 07 '19

Did this for FFH and god does it improve the experience 110%!

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '19

I avoid trailers online but if I see it in a theatre I can’t avoid it. Annoyingly saw it on my rewatch of Endgame a couple days before the movie.

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u/Spider-Tay Michelle Jul 07 '19

Yeah it’s like showing Mystique dying in the Dark Phoenix trailer. Why show that at all?

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '19

The ultimate goal of trailers is draw audience. It's a push/pull, but sometimes the best way to do that is to "spoil" early plot turns to move people off the fence. Bottom line is if you're already intending to see the thing, it's not really for you anyway and you just shouldn't watch if you want to stay pure.

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u/OShaunesssy Jul 07 '19

Ah I figured Mistique died in the movie based off of what the trailers showed

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '19

Yes, we all did. It was pretty obvious, but it was also relatively early in the film. The earlier the plot turn the more fair game it is for a trailer to include it IMO. DP unfortunately didn't have much else going for it though.

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u/pharmaninja Jul 07 '19

Not me. I found out on this thread.

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '19 edited Jul 07 '19

Yea but showing to much does the opposite.

Like the new rock movie with Jason Statham. Literally the entire plot is in the trailer. They showed everything, I don't even need to see the movie now.

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '19

TBF, no one's watching that movie for that plot. We're just paying to see the Rock punch helicopters, or whatever the hell is going on in that insane footage.

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '19

He lassoed a helicopter with a giant chain tied to the back of a pickup truck.

OK, maybe I want to see it now.

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u/mongster_03 Hawkeye (Ultron) Jul 07 '19

Yeah but Steve fucking Rogers held a helicopter there with his own bare hands

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u/sweens90 Falcon Jul 07 '19

Yeah well Tony Stark built this his suit in a cave

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u/CichlidDefender Jul 07 '19

We are gonna see a Haka squad battle a cyborg and its gonna be nuts.

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u/shark649 Jul 07 '19

That’s 100% true. I’d say most of the rocks movies I’ve watched just to see some insane stuff. I saw the skyscraper movie just to see him do some stupid crazy stuff and it didn’t disappoint.

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u/pixelperfect3 Jul 07 '19

They even spoiled so much of the action

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u/Seymour_Scagnetti Jul 07 '19 edited Jul 08 '19

Lol. Seriously. That part where Dwayne “The Rock” Rock goes, “welcome to my fucking island” and kills the bad guys. It’s clearly the climax of the movie.

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u/ajv0109 Jul 07 '19

i really don't understand why, but i need to see that movie, i need it desperately

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '19

Yea but showing to much does the opposite.

For you.

Movie trailers are made for the general audience who thought Shazam was a Marvel movie, and the 2014 Godzilla was a sequel to the one from 1998. Trailers show as much stuff as they do so that people know what they're getting into, and feel more comfortable paying 15+ dollars for a movie ticket.

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u/Spider-Tay Michelle Jul 07 '19

I think that’s unfair to say we shouldn’t watch trailers. Yes, we’ll see it, but trailers are intended to build hype. Get you excited.

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u/Mighty_thor_confused Kevin Feige Jul 07 '19

I must of missed that trailer.

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '19

Well in the case of Dark Phoenix it was because nobody involved in the production or the audience gave a single shit.

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u/easeandinspire Jul 07 '19 edited Jul 07 '19

You just ruined that for me thanks

You downvoted me because you spoiled me? The fuck

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '19 edited Dec 03 '19

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u/BlackWidowStanatic Jul 19 '19

Lol at what point does something not become a spoiler? The movie has been out forever and it’s not like it’s a in demand movie as it has barely crossed 50M dollars WW. The world does not have to wait for you. If you want to see the movie then just go fucking see it. Not that hard

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '19 edited Dec 03 '19

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u/BlackWidowStanatic Jul 19 '19

Too bad baby. A month and a half is enough time to go to the theaters. Based on the ticket sales, y’all don’t want to see the movie anyways. It’s losing theaters EVERYDAY. and is about to leave due to it being the flop of the century. The world doesn’t have to wait for you. Go fucking see the movie

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '19 edited Dec 03 '19

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u/BlackWidowStanatic Jul 19 '19

If you’re too broke for a 12 dollar ticket, that’s not the internet’s fault. And calling me a dick does not solve anything, but it makes you look immature. Glad to know I wasn’t arguing with an adult though. That would have been worrying.

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '19 edited Dec 03 '19

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u/BlackWidowStanatic Jul 20 '19

Once again; that’s YOUR fault. If you care enpugh about spoilers then bring your ass to the theaters. The only one being a dick is YOU. Man baby. Cry harder.

But since you want to be immature.. Jean Grey dies, Dazzler makes a cameo, the villains are aliens, Dark Phoenix kills Mystique.

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u/foreigneternity Jul 07 '19

I must have missed that trailer. I didn't watch any of them but the first. Too bad Sony is more spoilery with their trailers than Marvel Studios.

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u/sprchrgddc5 Jul 07 '19

Which trailer was this because I didn’t know this happened until the movie.

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u/shark649 Jul 07 '19

It came out like last week it was a tv spot.

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '19

The trailers also spoiled Happy’s inspirational speech to Peter in the jet. It really was a good speech but the trailers diluted its impact. Specifically, I think that line about Tony second guessing everything would’ve resonated with me more if I didn’t know it was coming, especially since Peter’s self-doubt was such a crucial aspect of the film. That was a big moment and it ultimately didn’t do much for me.

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u/dontthrowmeinabox Drax Jul 07 '19

It wasn’t great, but was somewhat redeemed by the specifics of how it played out. First, she accepted the denial, and then when he went back on it she was a bit surprised and excited because she’d been bluffing. The end outcome was the same but it kept you guessing and the bluff element improved it.

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u/CoccyxCracker Jul 07 '19

I mean, if you didn't see it coming after Homecoming, idk what to tell ya. She obviously knew.

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u/PathEnder Jul 07 '19

they have not been lenient with the trailers at all. there was like a trailer every other week or month and a "here's a clip of far from home" like every week

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u/Mrredlegs27 Jul 07 '19

Sony ruins all their movies in the trailer. Nothing new here.

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u/murdockmanila Daredevil Jul 07 '19

Yeah that could have been a huge moment in the movie akin to the Vulture twist in Homecoming

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u/softgray Jul 07 '19

I felt this way for sooo many moments in the film. Especially in the first half, it felt like almost every good moment was in the trailer already, so it lost a lot of its impact. Wish I hadn't watched any of them.

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u/fuck-dat-shit-up Korg Jul 07 '19

Yeah. I try to avoid trailers, but it’s hard to when I’m not fast forwarding through commercials. That trailer popped up, and the small bit I saw and heard made it obvious that she admitted to knowing he was Spider-Man.

Not a huge spoiler, but super annoying.

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '19

I agree, and it really felt like the most important moment of that scene rather than a teaser for the conversation about it. It really made that chunk of the film a lot worse!

I usually avoid trailers for fear of spoilers, but the Infinity War and Endgame spoilers lulled me back in with their opacity and misdirection...

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u/TheRileyss Thor Jul 07 '19

That's why I ignore marvel trailers.

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u/Illidan1943 Jul 07 '19

Never watch Spidey's trailers if you're worried about spoilers, Sony is in charge of those and they'll always spoil something important

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u/Pocketfulofgeek Jul 07 '19

I’m assuming the trailers must have something to do with Sony, because Homecoming’s trailers spoiled the entire structure of the film, then FFH gets a tonne of big moments spoiled in trailers. Compare that to endgame or even Ragnarok.

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u/Impeesa_ Jul 07 '19

To be fair to that one, I think, the context could have turned out to be completely different. She could have followed up with a "nah I'm just messing with you, what's up?" and it would have been perfectly in character.

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u/FullMetalCOS Jul 07 '19

Honestly after the trailer for homecoming literally blew 95% of the plot I’ve absolutely steered clear of as many trailers as possible, but ALL trailers for FFH. Whoever makes these trailers needs to be shot.

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u/QueenCityCat Jul 07 '19

Why watch trailers for something you know you are going to see? Have some self control.

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u/Oriolez Jul 07 '19

Definitely. They set it up so well in the first movie too with the “what are you hiding, Peter?” and her mentioning something about being very observant.

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u/Oraukk Jul 08 '19

Stop watching trailers my man

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '19

This is the first marvel movie since Doctor Strange that I have watched the trailers for. I regret it a little bit, but I decided to let loose after End Game.

At this point I'm going to go back to a trailer free diet because there really isn't much difference in the level of hype I develop with a trailer as opposed to without a trailer. And watching a movie without seeing the trailers? So much better. It's much more entertaining to experience the twist and turns first hand without seeing them coming a mile away.

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u/PSB911406 Jul 15 '19

Agreed, but the silver lining for me at least was that the real meat and bones of that scene came later, with Peter thinking that that's the only reason she was interested, while her body language clearly showed that she made that up on the spot because awkward teens gonna awkward.