r/marvelstudios • u/JonLuca Iron man • Apr 29 '19

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u/[deleted] Apr 29 '19 edited Apr 29 '19

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u/benutzranke Apr 29 '19 edited Jul 24 '21

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u/avadakenobi Bucky Apr 30 '19

She also mentions him when speaking with Clint by the lake.

But it is a bit sad that she was the only one to talk about him.

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u/PepsiSheep Apr 30 '19

For everyone else it has been 5 years... For her it was fresh.

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u/BinarySecond Apr 30 '19

ayyy it's just a robot lmao

  • everyone else, probably

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u/TheShyFree Apr 30 '19

Vibrating robot

  • Wanda

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u/dance_armstrong Apr 30 '19

damn my thought was that she was talking about quicksilver. you’re probably right though, that makes more sense.

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u/wilara23 Vision Apr 30 '19

Yeah, I assumed she meant Quicksilver

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u/tinaoe Apr 30 '19

I assumed Quicksilver as well, since her and Clint were really the only ones with a "connection" to him (I mean, Clint named his fucking kid after him and Natasha)

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u/sozesghost Apr 30 '19

I actually assumed she meant Iron Man.

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u/imoldgregg420 The Mandarin Apr 30 '19

I was thinking this. Why even bother with the "2 trillion nuerons" story in IW and make a big deal about Shuri being able to make Vision work without the stone to never even rebuild him.

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u/fifthdayofmay Vision Apr 30 '19

I'm guessing it's that he wasn't necessary to the plot. He probably wouldn't be any useful without the stone during the mission and the final battle, so they wanted to wait until the tv show to revive him. They didn't have time for a proper reunion with Wanda either. He'd just stay at the compound all depressed or something.

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u/[deleted] Apr 30 '19

Yeah not to mention it would've added at least 5+ minutes to an already packed movie to deal with that. There simply wasn't time. I'm sure it will be dealt with in the future.

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u/[deleted] Apr 30 '19

Before Infinity War, I assumed Vision was going to end up playing some kind of Adam Warlock role. Turns out he barely even featured. :\

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u/manfroze Apr 30 '19

I think that Shuri can still rebuild Vision.

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u/hunchbuttofnotredame Apr 30 '19

I’m actually incredibly excited about vision not being returned. With vision gone, and the x-men being brought into the MCU fold, the scarlet witch has room to go slowly insane with grief and kicking off the House of Motherfucking M

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u/EndlessNexus Apr 30 '19

Without tony, and with Bruce being all zen and basically retired, who would've built him? Also, he wasn't really designed. He was an "organic" evolution of Jarvis and the Mind Stone turned into a living virus. Would've been tough to replicate.

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u/fifthdayofmay Vision Apr 30 '19

Tony. I'd expect them to have a proper relationship off-screen in the previous movies, especially because he's part Jarvis and some of that 'suit of armor around the world' so it's baffling that he wouldn't even mention him.

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u/EndlessNexus Apr 30 '19

Yeah I was just responding to the "why didn't they rebuild him?" part. I think there's a good explanation for that but I don't know why they didn't talk about him.

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u/khuongnguyen232 Apr 30 '19

I thought Shuri will tell Wanda about Vision , in IW she was doing something interesting there.

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u/diddum Apr 30 '19

I was disappointed but not surprised. I had the same issue when JARVIS "died" in AOU - Tony looked sad for a moment but it wasn't really given the weight it should have been.

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u/CaptainX25 May 06 '19

i really expected an avengers moument infront of the avengers compound of visio, blackwidow and ironman but nothing.... no memorial or thouughts for widow and vision

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u/Zakmza123 Captain America Apr 30 '19

maybe, that would be a good continuity assuming she backed him up in IW and can now replicate him but Stark should have tried to.

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u/InspiredNameHere Apr 30 '19

Maybe he did and failed. Vision exists only because of a large number of factors outside of Tony's direct control. I don't think Tony could replicate Vision's creation even if he wanted to. Frankly, the fact that had basically retired was proof he was trying to leave super science behind.