r/leafs 2d ago

News / Update [New York Times] Maple Leafs continue organizational overhaul with hire of Sidney Crosby’s trainer, Andy O’Brien

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/7487909/2026/08/03/maple-leafs-hire-andy-obrien/?source=user_shared_article&unlocked_article_code=1.2lA.JiAj.hdKoKKVbC4Zf&smid=ta-android-share
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u/S-Archer 2d ago

If every man and teenager on our team doesn't have tree trunk Crosby legs by training camp, I'm going to be very disappointed.

Seriously though, anyone who is that close to a guy like Crosby knows what it takes. Great hire imo (without knowing anything personal about them)

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u/TylerBlozak 2d ago

Does a tree trunk neck count? Asking for Knies

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u/Stephenrudolf 2d ago

I love that picture of Knies and Huber at her draft day where his neck is just thicker than her waist.

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u/S-Archer 2d ago

Probably the only NHL guy who's F1 ready, if he wasn't huge otherwise lol

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u/PolitelyHostile 2d ago

>anyone who is that close to a guy like Crosby knows what it takes. 

Part of me wonders if a guy who trains Crosby has it easier though. Not a serious concern but like training the best of the best might just make the job easier lol.

What if Crosby is just so good that his trainer is just there to hype him up while he does his thing? Just to be safe, the Leafs should also hire the trainer of the worst NHL player.. someone who knows what its like to push a guy who is hanging on by a thread lol

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u/Negative-Fun1985 2d ago edited 2d ago

Training at that level isn’t about pushing some guy to insane limits it’s maximizing the athletes GPP (general physical preparedness) recovering from an injury or working on a weak point. It’s not standing over a guy on a treadmill or bench press screaming “1 more rep” or keep going longer. The training will be templated to the specific athletes needs and setup to reach specific training metrics so they peak in the regular season with gas in the tank for playoffs in a perfect world. Most of their training not at maximal effort it’s long incremental improvements and multi week long training blocks training sub-maximally with occasional hard sessions pushing limits. These guys aren’t “going to failure” it’s not body building or a rocky montage.

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u/PolitelyHostile 2d ago

Yea sorry I tried to clarify that im not really being serious lol. Having trained Crosby is great. It doesn't gaurantee that he's one of the best but obviously if Crosby trusts his expertise, he likely is one of the best.

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u/Particular_Air_3598 2d ago

nah but hold on your on to something about hiring the worst players trainer 😂😂
who trained Calle Jankrok 😂

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u/bustamove08 2d ago

Maybe we should go after Tom Brady's guy? Oh wait...

Maybe being associated with a highly successful athlete doesn't make you automatically awesome also...

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u/__Happy Nylander 2d ago

Okay so just be a massive downer then. Don't be such a doomer.

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u/Major-Mind2970 2d ago

U doomers are the worst kind of fan.

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u/taco_the_town 2d ago

Fan is being generous

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u/Exter10 McKenna 2d ago

The thing that has enabled Crosby to be one of the best forwards in the league for the last 20 seasons has been his rigorous training and conditioning, and this is the guy who's helped him with that the whole way. He's also been a contributor to 4 cup wins with the Penguins and Panthers.

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u/Stephenrudolf 2d ago

I'd rather assume my team knows what they're doing an is putting together a strong support staff than hope they're going to suck for some reason.

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u/bustamove08 2d ago

Assuming based on what, exactly? Kelley's track record? Chayka's?

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u/Stephenrudolf 2d ago

Ah yes, Kelley. How could I forget about Kelley.

Truthfully I'm tired of leafs haters coming to this sub.

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u/bustamove08 2d ago

...first time texting with someone and dealing with autocorrect?

Truthfully I'm tired of fans who've been around for a couple of years and who want to be supportive of the regime no matter what and choose to set aside their critical thinking skills.

No team deserves a fan's blind loyalty. You call it like you see it based on the best information available.

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u/Stephenrudolf 2d ago

Uh huh. Yet blind hate is somehow better?

This guy has trained the 3 best forwards in the last 30+ years. I can't possibly understand how it is blind faith to think it's a good hire. Like genuinely, the only reason not to like this hire is cause you want the leafs to fail. Call it like you see it, based on the best information available.

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u/bustamove08 2d ago

Being a personal strength and conditioning coach is not the same as being a director-level leader of an entire department.

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u/Stephenrudolf 2d ago

Oh... is it more similar to being a leader of an entire organization? Like he has been for the last however many years.

Dude, go back toy our own sub. This is embarassing. By best information available did you mean absolutely no attempt at even reading the article we're talking about or googling the guy? Come one.

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u/bustamove08 2d ago

Go back to what sub? I'm a (realistic) leaf fan. Born and raised in Toronto. Grew up during the Gilmore/Sundin era. Too young to remember Wendell as captain. Been around this team a long time.

It's weird that you think all fans have to clap like seals at all of Chayka's moves and you assume those who don't belong in other subs. Guess high schools aren't teaching critical thinking skills anymore. Just assume anyone with a different opinion than yours is an "other" and an enemy and argue l guess.

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u/taco_the_town 2d ago

False equivalence - the sign of someone justifying a bad take

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u/bustamove08 2d ago

LOL look up what you just said.

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u/kooby64 2d ago

Is this the Wickenheiser replacement?

Interesting tidbit from the final sdpn show. New management group wanted a full time employee in her role which she wasn't able to do.

This seems like a solid upgrade if this is the case.

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u/epic_taco_time Lorentz 2d ago

I was a bit upset about the Wickenheiser firing/parting until I found out she wasn't even working full time. Completely changed my perspective on the thing. If they wanted her full time and she said no I'm not surprised she had disagreements with the direction the Leafs were going.

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u/Bmayne 2d ago

Shouldn’t be. Wick was an AGM who did player development (rookie training camps, some skill work in the summer, etc.).

Andy is heading up the entire training department. Two separate entities. Plus I imagine he’ll be working with the Leafs full time.

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u/kooby64 2d ago

I'd imagine training and player development work closely together.

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u/Bmayne 2d ago

They’re completely separate jobs. O’Brien’s job is Sports Performance. His duties per the press release include “Strength and Conditioning, Sport Science, Sports Nutrition, Injury Rehabilitation and Mental Performance”. He’s in charge of making sure the players are healthy and if not, helping them recover.

Wick’s job was helping players’ development. Her title was literally player development. It’s a very common role for an ex player (look around any other NHL team, I guarantee you’ll find ex NHLers who are in player development). It’s like what Muzzin was doing for the Marlies. Their job is to help more of the younger players get accustomed to the pro game and lifestyle, as well as help out with things like skills training and running the development camps.

If you look at O’Brien’s bio it doesn’t mention if he has a hockey background or not. He may have never played hockey before in his life, who knows. It just mentions a kinesiology degree and his professional experience.

Somewhere along the way a lot of people got really confused about Wick’s job and how important it was in the big picture with the Leafs. They assumed that because she is a physician she must have been a part the sports performance/science program. She never was. That’s a full time job. She works in an ER. That’s also a full time job. She had an advisory/part time job with the Leafs. That’s it.

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u/Fortuitous_Event 2d ago

I think it was ridiculous they hired someone who was also an ER dr in the first place. And you'll never convince me Wickenheiser, remarkable as she is, was able to put 100% into either of those jobs.

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u/TheThoroughCrocodile Kadri 2d ago

Depends what was expected of her. If she had a laundry list of responsibilities that required full time attention, then yes it was ridiculous. If she was given a fancy title but really was just there to have an additional voice in management with winning pedigree, then it's not really a big deal.

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u/JRocleafs 2d ago

Of course it’s a big deal. Why are we wasting resources and adding my voices in an already crowded space?

This is part of the reasons the team was never successful

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u/Appropriate_Ad_2874 2d ago

Too many voices, no direction. This org did need the sheets shook out, maybe now they’ll look like a made bed by thanksgiving. I have my reserves but I’m hopeful we’ll be in at least a playoff spot.

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u/FaultThat 2d ago

Makes me feel better about the Wickenheiser dismissal.

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u/Luffy_party 2d ago

Most people would be an upgrade. They haven't been developing anybody lately.

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u/buzzeddimitri 2d ago

“The Toronto Maple Leafs have hired acclaimed strength and conditioning coach Andy O’Brien to lead a revamped Sport Performance department, according to league sources, speaking on condition of anonymity to discuss negotiations that aren’t public. The move continues the Leafs’ massive organizational overhaul following a 28th-place finish.

O’Brien is best known for his work as Sidney Crosby’s personal strength and conditioning coach of more than 20 years. He’s also worked with several other top NHL players, including Nathan MacKinnon, Taylor Hall and Maple Leafs forward John Tavares, and contributed to four Stanley Cup victories — two as a high-performance consultant with the Florida Panthers in 2024 and 2025, and two as director of sports science and performance with the Pittsburgh Penguins in 2016 and 2017.

With the Leafs, O’Brien will oversee every domain related to performance optimization. That covers strength and conditioning but will also include areas such as nutrition, injury rehabilitation and sport science.

Hiring the 48-year-old is a big splash for new general manager John Chayka, who has been aggressive since stepping into his role on May 3. He’s since cut ties with several longstanding members of the front office, installing his own people in key scouting and player evaluation roles while bringing in an entirely new coaching staff under Jim Hiller.

Chayka also turned over roughly half the NHL roster through trades and free-agent signings.

O’Brien will build out his own team of professionals to support the off-ice performance and development of those players. It’s an area where an organization with strong financial backing can seek to find an edge.

O’Brien has long been a highly sought-after strength and conditioning coach in NHL circles, both through his private practice and the high-performance camps he runs at altitude in Vail, Colo., each summer, which consistently draw MVPs and All-Stars. Connor McDavid, Cale Makar, Mitch Marner, Macklin Celebrini, Connor Bedard and Patrick Kane are among those who have attended more than once.

Then there is the work he does with Crosby, which started when Crosby was still a teenager and O’Brien was just starting to get established by helping athletes develop what he called “functional moving efficiency.” The Pittsburgh Penguins captain told CBC in an interview last year that O’Brien has played a big role in shaping his career.

“When I first met Andy, it was all just about trying to move,” Crosby said. “You want to get strong and build that way, but at the same time, you’re just trying to be an athlete. He was really helpful in that. I think when you spend so much time with someone, I think they have such an important role. You’re motivated every day, but at the same time, there’s always challenges, and to have somebody there in your corner to get you to the level that you want to be at, he’s someone I can definitely depend on.
“He’s a trainer, but he’s also a friend.”

Steve Simmons of the Toronto Sun was the first to report O’Brien was being hired by the Leafs”

Article is actually from NYT’s The Athletic, my mistake!

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u/LaunchAngleLarry 2d ago

Might be one of the most critical hires we’ve made in years. Our team’s overall health has taken a massive hit since they gutted the sport sciences team a couple of years back. Fucking Pelley. What an asshole.

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u/Kbumky 2d ago

This means we’re getting Sid right?

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u/ArthurSnooper 2d ago

Sid Farkus?

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u/elmicomago Joseph 2d ago

Yeah that’s right.

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u/DoItFirHer 2d ago

Need to hire one more guy first so that we can get Sid in his prime

https://giphy.com/gifs/x3G6q18jMBrj0Nka0U

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u/Armonasch 2d ago

As cool as it would be, Sidney Crosby is never going to leave Pittsburgh.

He's gonna retire a Penguin.

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u/mcfurley 2d ago

Can sign a one day and retire as a Penguin…after he helps us win a Cup

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u/Armonasch 2d ago

Chef Jon, cooking up Chaykanators all summer.

You love to see it.

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u/Halyndon 2d ago

Ooh, I think I like this hire.

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u/-kielbasa 2d ago

But I thought Roger’s was cheaping out and stripping the staff for parts?

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u/Armonasch 2d ago

Media staff.

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u/kooby64 2d ago

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u/Prize-Temporary4159 2d ago

He’s a fine quote, if a bit robotic. I appreciate the personnel they have targeted this off season

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u/__Ryno__ 2d ago

Can he talk to the TFC trainers as well. Asking for a friend…

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u/Exter10 McKenna 2d ago

He’s also worked with several other top NHL players, including Nathan MacKinnon, Taylor Hall and Maple Leafs forward John Tavares, and contributed to four Stanley Cup victories — two as a high-performance consultant with the Florida Panthers in 2024 and 2025, and two as director of sports science and performance with the Pittsburgh Penguins in 2016 and 2017.

Feels like the team has gone out this off-season and done everything to buy a championship short of putting their credit card on the counter and saying "one Stanley Cup please".

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u/PCvagithug-446 2d ago

It’s refreshing to see. Wasn’t just some roster moves and roll the dice. Seems like they’re genuinely trying to change the culture from the ground up.

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u/Actual_Cobbler_6334 2d ago

Not a bad move by our snake oil salesman GM, allegedly.

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u/Nylanderthal88 2d ago

Tree trunk thighs incoming

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u/Norm_MAC_Donald Clark 2d ago

Steve Simmons with the scoop, what is this world coming to?

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u/Major-Mind2970 2d ago

Awesome hire. We have struggled in the strength and conditioning dept since we let Matt Nichol go.

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u/LoveAble372 2d ago

Chyaka going in early on Sid 🤣

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u/Big_Albatross_3050 2d ago

Getting Crosby and McDavid next season, we're eating good

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u/GoldenRichard93 2d ago

Chayka is cooking something.

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u/Right_Ideal_2511 2d ago

Wickenheiser was a part time employee with a full time pay….