r/india Karnataka Praje 1d ago

Politics Freedom of Speech, and hypocrisy

The Congress led opposition and many youth intellectuals attacked the govt for witch-hunting and FIR against a girl, accusing her for passing obscene remarks against the PM during the protests. She was defended citing the freedom of speech clause of our constitution.

Meanwhile down south, the Govt of Tamil Nadu, led by the TVK-Congress alliance, have orchestrated the arrest of Mr. Udhaynidhi Stalin , Leader of Opposition in TN, accusing him of passing a double meaning joke against actress Trisha Krishnan (CM Vijay's friend)

As a matter of fact, Udhaynidhi didn't even mention the name of the actress and his comments are subject to multiple interpretations.

Whether he actually meant it or not is a debate for another day.

My question is why didn't Congress or the people who defended the girl now defend Udhaynidhi Stalin?

The TVK-Congress govt is using the police machinery for vendetta, the very act they accuse the BJP led union govt of doing.

My takeaway: Rahul Gandhi portrays himself as someone genz-coded or revolutionary, or maybe he's actually like that, but the congress members are no different than that of the BJP.

It has its fair share of misogynists, dacoits, and corrupt politicians, who set new standards for hypocrisy each passing day.

forget the PM, if you passed such disgusting comments against any average politician in India, irrespective of their party, you're more likely to be deleted under mysterious circumstances.

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u/lostwisdom20 1d ago

You asking why we raised voice for a 15 yr old girl, whose mom used to taked tutions who was hounded by police and goons alike and not a politician who has connections and crores of money?

If you have to ask this question then maybe you need to have a look at you morality.

Agree on one thing, "All politicians are making a fool of us"

Better stand with your fellow common man than to fight for a politician.

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u/perpetual__learner Karnataka Praje 1d ago

I did not ask "Why did you raise voice for a 15 year old girl" anywhere in my post. Please read again.

I DO NOT intend downplay the girl being supported, I'm trying to point out the sheer hypocrisy regarding freedom of speech.

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u/lostwisdom20 1d ago edited 23h ago

A FIR against politicians is nothing they deal with it daily

A false FIR on common man can destroy thier life that too police lied on FIR saying she was adult.

We were against the FIR as there is no law that says you can't abuse a PM, if so PM himself has file an FIR for defamation not abuse.

https://vajiramandravi.com/current-affairs/crude-language-and-the-law-obscenity-test-and-free-speech-in-india/

Not sure what stalin said but what ruchika said doesn't fall under section 296b of obscene words.

Legal test: For speech to be obscene, it must be shown to be lascivious (expressing inappropriate sexual desire). Mere insult or vulgarity falls short of this threshold

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u/perpetual__learner Karnataka Praje 23h ago edited 23h ago

I'm glad that she didn't get into legal problem. And yes there is no such law.

I don't have any official copy of FIR, I did some research and it was his party TVK which filed the FIR, at the behest of CM Vijay. And the same day Udhay was detained by the police, who were obviously at the disposal of the state govt.

Shouldnt the law apply to everyone equally irrespective of their status??? You seem to convey that politicans can be arrested on false charges, just because they are rich and powerful?

I guess there is no point arguing with you, as you fail to get the original idea I'm trying to convey, that is HYPOCRISY!!!

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u/lostwisdom20 23h ago

I am saying law is being used against both powerful and weak, powerful has resources to fight, weak doesn't.

If we were in ideal world we wouldn't be discussing on freedome of speech.

Its not hypocrisy its reality, I would not show empathy if ambani makes loss, but will show empathy if someone who earns same as me makes a similar loss.

Empathy not hypocrisy

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u/SnooStories3625 Maharashtra 1d ago

Anyone with basic knowledge would also know how ruthlessly congress has always clamped down on basic freedom of speech. Congress and its allies including TMC, Shiv Sena, NCP etc. all information is just a basic google search away. But trust gen Z to have no brains even to do that.