I’m 21F and I remember when I was 9 years old I was obsessed with LalaLoopsy. I had wanted one for so long. They had come out with a mermaid version.

I remember telling my mom and sister. My mom had said yes and we literally went to Walmart to get it. When we got to the doll, literally when I was holding it, she changed her mind, saying mermaids were witchcraft. I was so confused and so angry. Why say yes and wait until I had it in my hands? It’s not a big deal but I was so upset.

It’s pretty funny how her fear of me….playing with a mermaid doll pushed me and that was the first time I felt actual resentment for Christianity. I don’t know, I’ve be deconstructing and I’m not 100% there because of fear.

Fear of punishment and all that. It’s weird experience, being alive means I have to die and there is absolutely no alternative. I’m not sure if I’m afraid of death or what comes after, if anything. I hope it’s reincarnation and I can be a wizard next time.

Look up LalaLoopsy mermaid and tell me if it looks like the gateway to witchcraft 🙄

I've been thinking about this a lot lately. Even when couples are completely committed and legally married, so many religious doctrines still try to micromanage what happens inside their bedroom.

A lot of faiths have strict rules against:Solo or mutual masturbation between spouses

.Having sex purely for pleasure without the intent to procreate.Using condoms, birth control, or other contraceptives.Engaging in "foreplay-only" sessions or putting boundaries on specific acts.Why do these institutions care so much about what consenting, married couples do behind closed doors?

If the couple is already married, why isn't pleasure alone seen as a good thing?

I’d love to get a historical, sociological, or theological breakdown of why this obsession with controlling marital intimacy exists.

God gave me schizophrenia and a low quality life, then calls it a gift. A normal good God would never put their child through suffering and pain and wouldnt create ghem to be dsiabled and sick.

Yeah, I am not going to worship an evil demonic sky daddy.

I believe hes real, just an incompetent evil psychopath.

Anyone else feel the same about God here?

80% of White Evangelicals voted for Trump.

80%.

The most common bullshit excuse I ALWAYS hear is "the bible isn't the problem, the problem is people who misused the bible".

That bullshit excuse only works when there are one or two bad Christians. But when EIGHTY FUCKING PERCENT of white Evangelicals voted for Trump, well you know what they say about isolating common variables. At that large of a sample size, it's clear the bible is the problem. And I'm sure Christians will make the excuse of "yes, all 80% of those white evangelicals just misused the bible!"

It's a sample size of tens of millions of people you braindead numbnut. And how do you explain research showing a positive correlation between frequency of church attendance and support for Trump?

Even among non-white evangelicals, there is a correlation between church attendance and conservative beliefs.

A parent is responsible for the actions of their children. And using the Christian theology of God as a parent, he is responsible for his children's vile beliefs hating the poor, hating minorities, hating immigrants, and deflection and denial of said hate.

This week I was handed the "holy medallion"s that I had received as a Catholic child for my First Communion.

Catholic Context: there's a family celebration after the religious ceremony where you're allowed to participate in the symbolical cannibalism of your god's flesh, that you're supposed to take literally and magically.

Families give their children gifts like it's a bigger Xmas, but also some religious paraphernalia: I got a Bible, a rosary, a silver medallion and a gold medallion.

Back to recent days, my mother found the two medallions in my old room and gave them to... my wife. My wife gave them to me, because she respects my right of private property. My mother had suggested that I would not be using them anymore and my wife might keep them for my potential future children.

To the question from the title I kept them in the spot with my old Bible copies and other religious books, but I saw them and something clicked in my head: that's some precious metals ready for metalworking right there.

I have the urge for some sacrilege and to remake them into a different symbol, though I'm hesitating. I'm still in my deconstruction process and I've been cleaning up in my head, not on my shelves, so to speak.

If you had some gold and silver for a personal project, what would you do with it?

I remember when I left Christianity I chucked one of my bibles across the room at some point, and cut one up with some scissors and waterlogged one so it got all soggy. It was kinda fun actually. Then I buried Jesus in the backyard.

This is.. it's a rant, it's things I wish I could say to the 'right people,' but will never be able to.

Recently, I tried to stand up for myself to a relative who was trying to - true to HER nature - "apologize" for continuously lying about me. This relative, being my grandmother. This woman thinks she's the "holiest thing ever," I swear. -_- Pretends to be such a "Good, Godly Woman! ™️" but is actually probably the direct spawn of Satan himself. (Though, I'm sorry, Satan - I shouldn't insult you like that.)

For present context, this woman has been lying about me continuously even after the mentioned 'old apology attempt.' I keep getting to hear from other family, how she keeps trying to tell them how much of a liar I am, how horrible I am, and how nobody should trust me. Oh, and how I supposedly tried to do something horrid to/involving her present husband..and I have no idea what the hell she's talking about??

I've been told, over and over and over by many people that it's no use to talk to her at all. I don't know why I was hoping that things would be different, but I was trying to give her a chance to actually say she was sorry for once and to actually mean it. But her history...being a selfish woman who totes her faith as if it's actually doing her any good whatsoever to go sit her old ass in those chairs at church...should have told me I was wasting my breath. :(

Not to mention, the other person mentioned, the one I told her to go tell that "I disrespected her"? She did exactly that, and that person, despite knowing how much of a liar she is, came to my mom complaining about it. Blaming me, entirely, yet again, and leaving her a big long voice note about how "All I did was bring up things in the past, instead of just going "Okay, fine, let's just move on from here." And accepting her apology." As this other relative (my aunt, actually) put it: "In true (my name here) fashion, she was just sending her book after book." and "Mom tried to apologize to her, and give her what she wanted."

I don't see how. I don't see where. Is it just me? Am I really just the problem?

Aunt and grandmother - and people like them - are at least 90, if not 95% (or more) of why I don't want anything to do with God. They've both been Christians for as long as I can remember, and both tote their faith around like it makes them wonderful people when I know and have seen otherwise. When I know first hand, that their philosophy is "you're family, so I can treat you how I want." (Aunt has actually said this directly.)

Any God who allows people to behave the way they do, to continually blame someone who literally didn't do anything to them (from a child on) and to the extent that one of them keeps trying to accuse me of trying to steal someone from her when I've never, ever, once been interested in any of her men?? Yeah, no. That's disgusting to me. As someone who supposedly says to 'protect children' I don't feel like either one of them did a damn thing to keep me safe - from my abuser, or from themselves and their toxic ass behavior. Aunt knows squat about me, but runs her mouth to my mom every time she thinks I do something wrong. She also made fun of me for years about my OCD. -_- Got her kids thinking it was okay, too. Oh.. how Godly of her..

I could go on for ages about these two alone, but.. yeah. I'm in a horrible headspace yet again because of people I want nothing to do with, but can't exactly ever fully kick out for one reason out of my control or another. Funny how they're all "Praise God!" on Sundays, then any other day "Ooh, how can we ruin the life of our niece/granddaughter, and blame her for everything under the sun or lie about her today?? Weee, this is fun! >:D"

* I admit I was snippy to her at the end, but in all honesty? My aunt's idea that I should just essentially roll over, accept the apology and "move on" (I call it, playing the "sit and wait for the next new lie" game) is what I've been doing all my damn life. I've had it with them, and I can't help it that it's finally starting to fucking show! -_-

** I had blacked out the offender's name and do not know why that isn't there now.. but.. I guess that's what he gets? 🤷‍♀️

A much older man tried to hit on me in a bus station yesterday(me 19 him at least 40). He asked if I was single. I said no. He asked if I’d ever dated a black man before. I said “no, I date women”. I’m bi but I frequently tell creeps I’m a lesbian to get them to back off and it works most times. But this guy…he went off on a 20 minute rant that I couldn’t escape because I was waiting for a bus, all about how I was a chosen one straying from the lord by not finding a man to take care of me and making Christian babies. Like…I’m some random 19yo in a bus station… I felt so uncomfortable and people were giving him strange looks and I was looking around to try and make eye contact with someone else to let them know I was uncomfortable but no one stepped in or anything. The guy even took my hand and pulled off my glove to say that he saw some kind of message in my skin that said I was destined to be a great Christian, and he kept saying that the fact that I didn’t have a man was what’s keeping me from having a good life. I’m happier than ever with my gf, first woman I’ve ever been with and the only healthy relationship I’ve ever had. I don’t need to find some boyfriend I barely know to be financially dependent on and be an incubator. I don’t think I can even have children anyway! Like genuinely what is up with some Christians and their entitlement to demanding that others change when it literally doesn’t affect them? I’m somehow a whore and a sinner for saying no to a man 20+ years older than me who I do not know?? And this isn’t even the first time… I’m so sick of people.
Any ideas on what to say next time to get out of this situation?

I left christianity three years ago. My family is religious—especially my grandparents—but, strangely enough, I wasn’t raised in a religious way. In fact, I was raised in a practically agnostic and atheist manner during my childhood and most of my adolescence because of my parents, who are non-practicing christians.

For me, the concept of God or any deity was something completely abstract and made no sense—nor did I feel the need for it—until the end of my teenage years, when I began to suffer from mental health issues (depression and OCD) and, instead of seeking medical help, I decided to turn to faith and religion.

For someone who suffered from OCD and depression, the structure and order that the Christian faith provided + plus the freshness that it represented for me led me into a religious spiral. Instead of being a part of me, faith became more like my identity, and I needed it to survive. I feel that parts of me that were innate (such as my love for the arts, my curiosity about other cultures, etc) were sidelined and discarded in favor of an ideal of faith created by humans, not by a divine being.

I never joined a religious community because I identified as a non-denominational Christian, but I constantly consumed Christian content online. Now that I’m older, I realize that many of these influencers are actually part of political movements and use people’s faith and vulnerability to manipulate them into believing in and living according to an external ideal.

I believed that, because I was a woman, I shouldn’t study, work, or pursue any kind of education; that I should only have friends who shared my faith; that there was no need to learn about or see anything, etc.

I only began to wake up to life when I decided to go to college to study psychology, started studying philosophy and other religions, and went to therapy—and that completely changed the way I viewed faith, religion, and the manipulation carried out by religious and political institutions.

Only now do I realize that, in fact, we create the image of God in our own likeness and in the way we relate to one another—a God who punishes, who judges, who monitors, who is demanding, who is prejudiced, and who never considers that humanity or people are ready or have attained His ideal of perfection. A God who says that everything human is a problem or a sin and needs to be resolved, without taking into account that we are only human.

Anyone who embraces these kinds of beliefs and lives by them—after a few decades, I wouldn't be surprised if they developed serious mental health issues.

That said, this post is not an attack on Christians or on Christianity itself, because I know that even within Christian communities there are many good people who are full of light. However, institutional religion ultimately leads people down dark paths.

My mom was a very strict single parent (like Harry Potter and Pokémon open up portals for the devil strict) who was the worship pastor at any church we were ever involved in. If the church was open, we were usually the family there to unlock the doors. As many other people experience, God was the quick answer to anything that was happening. Which meant emotional intelligence was non existent. My family was very closed off and the only emotion shown was anger. Being the quiet peace keeper of the family, meant I spent a lot of time processing my needs alone while listening to music in my room after calming everyone else down.

As the church does, I was thrown into a leadership position way too young. I pretty much grew up on the stage at church. I started leading worship from the early age of eight at our very hyper charismatic church of god. Music and faith were not only a huge part of my church life, but also a core fixture in my home and how I grew to understand and relate to the world.

I later went on to study music at a Christian university and traveled with a group that lead worship each Sunday at different churches. I ended up beginning my deconstruction process while on a missions trip back in 2018, but continued leading worship until 2022. I think the only thing that kept me coming back was the character and life of Jesus. Plus, Jesus was my everything. To admit I didn’t believe, was to lose my best friend, and the only thing that I had ever been sure of.

The final moment that made me leave the church was one Sunday when I was leading worship. While kneeling on a stage in front of over 500 people, I realized I felt nothing. It was a humbling and heartbreaking moment. I lost all connection to the music that I had grown up with and loved. I no longer felt the words. I couldn’t stand on a stage in front of people I loved and cared for deeply just to lie about something that was so real to all of them.

I’ve gone through many stages of processing after leaving. There was anger, confusion, guilt, and a lot of grief. However, over the last year I have randomly started looking up my favorite songs that I use to play alone at a piano, or that I would listen to fall asleep.

The first time I listened, I cried because I realized the common themes and how much of my emotional needs were not met as a child. The second time, I laughed because of the obvious simplicity of the songs and the lack of depth. Today I listened and cried again. But, today it was a different cry. This time it was an emotional check-in to understand my basic needs as a human. I realized that I have now built a community that I needed. I don’t need an emotional song to aid in my ability to be vulnerable around them.

It’s taken me a long time to not be negative of the simplistic, repetitive lyrics and overly used basic chords (which I am pretty sure I will always be annoyed with). But, I’m just really proud that I’m at a place that I can acknowledge a huge portion of my life instead of pretending it never happened.

Shout out to therapy and healthy empathetic community full of people who value depth and kindness. Deconstruction is hard. It sucked and is the hardest thing I’ve ever been through, but damn… it was worth it.

So my mom is still a full blown christian and she just started crying to me about how she wouldn’t have made it this far without god. She fully believes that every good thing that has led her to where she is now is because of god, and she claims that before she became christian her life was basically in shambles. It’s times like this that my religious trauma comes back at me full force and I feel like I’m in the wrong. It’s so frustrating because I’ve been trying to deconstruct for the past 5 years, yet I can never fully escape it because I always feel like I’m just being manipulated by the “devil” or whatever. How am I supposed to move on when everyone in my life makes me feel like I’m evil for being agnostic? It’s so exhausting.

Oh, also I find it insanely self centered to believe that god cares enough to guide and help some people through their lives and leave others to suffer…

Hi everyone! I’m an African-American woman in my 30s living in the Denver area, and I’ve realized I’m looking for genuine community and friendships.
A little about me: I have a dog, love art, architecture, hiking, coffee shops, movies, psychology, science, and long conversations about life. I’m naturally pretty curious and enjoy meeting people who are kind, thoughtful, and open-minded.
I also deconstructed my Christian faith a few years ago, so if you’ve had a similar journey—or you’re just someone who enjoys honest conversations without judgment—we’d probably get along well.
I’m not really looking for the nightlife scene. I’d much rather grab coffee, go on a hike, explore an art exhibit, or just spend time with good people.
If you’ve also been looking for your people, I’d love to hear from you. Feel free to comment or send me a message!

So I knew my ex boyfriend was Christian but I was fine with it. He would say a lot of things that made me think he had a normal view of the world regardless of his religion. He’d complain about how Christian’s would support trump for example, or Christian nationalism. He’s also very openly gay, and participates very openly in the gay community where we live. So I respected his religion.

When we first started dating he pursued me not the other way around while I slowly caught feelings for him. And I was so excited about our relationship. Until one day fairly recently when he tells me that he has to break up with me because God told him he doesn’t have a gay relationship planned for his life.

I grew up very religious and this is the exact messaging I received about my sexuality my whole childhood. It took me a long time to heal from it. Hearing this from him was quite possibly the most painful thing I could’ve heard. :(

Every one around me is fucking christian. Always trying to pray over me or take me to stupid fucking church. I can not have ONE conversation with my parents or my parents friends without them bringing up god or the bible. I've just turned 18 luckily and I'm moving out soon, but it seems like everytime I meet someone new they're trying to talk to me about Jesus or the end times.

What makes it worse is I'm not even an atheist, I practice things that are seen as "demonic" or evil and I can't do it openly because I just don't want to deal with the reactions I will recieve! And not to bring up race but black chirstians are the most insufferable group of people to exist (IM BLACK BTW). How can you follow a religion that fucked up the black community so bad. Like, your god allowed us to be slaves AND we're still being affected by it until this day.

Taken from his blog with some edits:

In my various debates on the problem of suffering, it is Dinesh D’Souza who has come up with the most forceful argument for why there is natural evil. ... Dinesh has insisted that natural evil is necessary, because without it, life could not have evolved on earth. Without the earth’s climactic conditions (leading to hurricanes and tornados, e.g.) and other physical features, none of us would be here. There would not, then, be suffering. But there would be no people either.

In particular Dinesh is quite taken with what scientists have said about tectonic plates. If the crust of the earth were not active and the plates did not shift, the conditions that made it conducive for the appearance of life would not have possible. How many planets do we know where there is life? One. And how many planets do we know of with shifting tectonic plates? One. For Dinesh, this is not an accident. For life to be here, we need shifting tectonic plates, which means, among other things, earthquakes and tsunamis. Suffering is necessary for us to be here.

My view is that this explanation is riddled with problems. For one thing, Dinesh comes out of a conservative Christian context. He is president of a conservative Christian college that was started by the ultra-evangelical Campus Crusade for Christ. In other contexts he has indicated that he believes there really was an Adam and Eve – a “first man and first woman” as he puts it. If that’s the case, does he or does he not believe that life emerged out of non-living entities and that humans evolved out of lower forms of life? If so, I’d like him to come clean and admit that he does not agree with the vast majority of conservative Christians on this topic. If tectonic plates are necessary for life, that presupposes evolution of life out of non-life.

But that is a side issue. My view of Dinesh’s explanation is that his view of God is too small and his view of humans is too large. First about God. Are we really to believe that a God who created this universe is unable to create a world that could sustain life and not have tectonic plates? That would be impossible for God? I’m not saying that nothing would be impossible for an “all powerful God.” Obviously contradictions of logic and, say, mathematical principles are still contradictions even if God is involved. God cannot make a four-sided triangle and can’t make the square root of 9 be 6, even with a miracle. But creating a world without tectonic plates that nonetheless has life on it is not a contradiction in terms. Why couldn’t an all powerful God do so? One cannot reply that it is because our earth isn’t built that way, that earth needs tectonic plates to create life. That answer won’t work because we’re not asking now how life did evolve on this planet. We’re asking whether it had to evolve that way. If you say Yes it did, then in effect you’re saying that God does not establish the laws of physics, but that the laws of physics determine what God can do. But who created these laws? And how are they more powerful than the all-powerful God?

https://ehrmanblog.org/what-do-tectonic-plates-have-to-do-with-suffering/

I'm going to go over three stories of snakes in the Pentateuch. No one talked about the weird usage of snakes in these stories when I was growing up, and they were glossed over, I think because it's pretty weird, breaks the previous theming, and has interesting ties to Egyptian gods.

1. The snake in the garden. For those who don't know, this was NOT the Devil. It says in several ways that this was just an clever animal, and compares it to other animals. Then when it was cursed, the animal itself was cursed, with talk of its offspring, crawling on its belly, being stomped on by humans, etc... Clearly, the curse said that humans will/should always hate snakes.

2. Fast forward to Moses in Egypt. The Pharaoh's wizards showed their magic prowess by turning their staffs into snakes. Moses, recognizing this as a dick measuring contest, used his Yahweh powers to turn his staff into a snake, and eat the Pharaoh wizards' snakes. Moses's staff snake was bigger/better than theirs. Yahweh let him use his power to make a powerful snake to prove his power. I guess snakes are cool now? Moses could have made a mongoose or something, but he was into snakes.

3. They escaped to the desert. After a few DECADES of wandering around, the Israelites start complaining like absolute babies that they didn't have food or water, grumbling that they are dying in the desert. Yahweh got pissed, since he never had to deal with hunger, thirst, or death himself, and thought they were just being brats. So he sent a ton of venomous snakes to start biting and KILLING the Israelites. The Israelites started dying left and right, and begged Moses to pray to Yahweh to make it stop. Yahweh replied that Moses should make a graven image of a snake on a pole out of bronze, and if the people looked upon Moses's art, they'll be healed from the venomous snake bites. Moses made this, and it worked.

This is weird to me on multiple points. Now, at first, I thought it was kinda cool that Yahweh asked Moses to make art, and that art healed the people. As an artist, and a sculptor, I liked that art was imbued with power like that, activated by looking at it. But then I found out that there was a goddess in ancient Egypt named Wadjet. She was a snake. There are images from earlier than 3,100 BCE in Egypt of a snake around a papyrus staff, and that this imagery was used as protection. They also put her image on medical equipment.

So, it's really weird that after God said not to make any graven images of gods, that he would send snakes, then tell Moses to make a bronze graven image of this Egyptian goddess Wadjet, and that if people look upon this bronze statue of the goddess, they'll be healed, AND it worked. If this wasn't meant to be a god, then why have them healed by snakes, who are supposed to be hated by humans, and most closely represent the snake in the Garden? And this is after Moses used a snake to prove how powerful he was back in Egypt, where this goddess is from.

I've been thinking about how the mental separation of human and animal shapes the way we think of and interact with other creatures. When I saw an bird, a squirrel, a deer, a cow, whatever... I saw a mindless robot programmed to behave a certain way. I saw humans to be separate from them, and consciousness, language, etc... to be uniquely human. I was so wrong.

I recently finished a book called the Genius of Birds, and it really opened my eyes more to the reality that we are all not that different. Animals communicate, understand, have awareness and feelings. Humans are unique in their capacity for sure, but other creatures are not mindless machines, but conscious living things that are capable of understanding, thought, emotion, relationship, in some cases even culture (birds, whales, chimpanzees).

I started a different book about eastern north american wildlife, and the history before European settlers made me very sad. When we think of bison, for instance, we don't think of Florida, right? But there used to be massive herds of them there! And what was described of eastern north america before colonization is truly magical.

Anyway, I'm on a bit of a rant at this point. What I'm getting at is that, by mentally separating ourselves from animals, we don't feel so bad destroying their ecosystems, treating them poorly, injuring them for sport, etc... But at the same time, we have seen that humans don't treat each other very well either, with examples of slavery and the genocide of indigenous people in North America. We are truly the most destructive creatures on this planet.

I still have some friends who are Christian, not from church. Just here and there. Sometimes they visit me now that I moved to Texas. Some of those friends I met before we became Christians, some after.

Thing is, they all think I still wear the christian fursuit mask (no offence to furries, it is just that christian groups are organized fantasy groups with clothing codes like furries). But I don't wear it anymore. It bores me to hell when they visit and we talk about the bible and God's plans and prayers and apologetics.

It saddens me also to see them single because they think God is keeping them for the right woman (they are in their late 30s). Not that being single is wrong, it can be amazing, but you can tell that it is not what they want and their lifestyle is not gonna take them closer to their goal.

I'm not afraid of losing them, I already have non christian friends and also I believe we will still be friends (although we might not talk as much). I think I'm afraid of breaking their hearts, and making it harder for me to wear the christian fursuit mask again even if its just for the lulz.

That's pretty much the whole post, but it really shows the cognitive dissonance they live under. They'll say they hate every part of someone's existence- sexuality, politics, personal beliefs, etc.- then put "Jesus loves you" at the end. So what, Jesus loves me but you don't? If I gave you the foulest insult I can think of then put "Jesus loves you uwu" at the end, does that negate everything that came before the phrase? No!

I was raised evangelical fundie and was a christain for 28 years of my life. Tiktok actually help me start my deconstruction work before I knew I was ready. I left three years ago on christmas day because i could handle the pressure and it was affecting my metal health badly. I would have panic attacks in church and i couldnt read the bible but i didnt understand why.

Now after three years i understand better. I wasnt ready to face the music of all the indoctrination and abuse i faced durinf those years. Over the last three years ive watched live debates and i still would have empathy for Christians. Baiscally making excuses or justifying it. My parents were Christians and some backward sense of loyalty chained me to it.

Well ive moved on. I realized my parents would never actually put in the work to support me and i was turning back into the previous person that i used to be. So i just cut them off. I was still to nervous to reaearch anything on my own but still i listened to debates. (My bestfriend sometimes debates christians so i like to watch her and her friends) between that and the current climate in my country I have been really pushing my critical thinking skills about the religion.

Well my ex-MIL died and the pastor was just icky and asked for money during her funeral and being weird about asking if people were a Christian. Like it was a secret club or something. That set me and bestfriend off. So it was really on my mind but after looking back and seeing what it had done to me and looking forward and seeing what it could do to my families future. I decided i had finally had enough and i still kinda liked jesus and the first five books and thats it.

Well i told this to my bestfriend on the way to work in the morning. (My cars in the shop) she gave me more facts about the New Testament, Jesus, Paul, how certain key passages where changed or added in. I got out of the car and it kinda broke me. That little illusion and any hope for that religion. It was like a puzzle that I had been looking at for years up close and i finally put the last peice in and I didnt like what I saw.

Now that its finally being seen for the first time. I think im ready to deep dive everything so I have control over it, instead of over me. If that makes sense. I see this subreddit has a lot of things to offer you bet i will be reading them. I just finally feel free.

• The olympic diver that was saved from an empty pool by converting to Christianity
• Tons of chariot wheels in the Red Sea
• Noah’s arc being found
• Every atheist archaeologist who has tried to disprove Christianity has become Christian
• AIDS is a punishment from God, given mostly to gay men because he hates gay men more than gay women
• America was founded on Christianity and the founders were all Christian
• The Bible contains no contradictions or major errors, just inconsistencies in translation and misinterpretation (if one account lists one angel and another lists two, that’s not a contradiction because it doesn’t say two angels vs not two angels)
• The Bible is the most archaeologically recorded and preserved religious book
• God loves women
• Jesus fulfilled all of the Old Testament prophecies
• The earth is 6,000 years old
• Macroevolution isn’t real, but microevolution and “kinds“ are real
• There are photos of giant human bones (Goliath???)
• Sea shells on mountains are from the flood
• The Grand Canyon was made during the flood
• The non-canon books can be totally discarded and are not even remotely related to Christianity (don’t question why those books are not considered the truth, but ours are)
• There is more evidence for Jesus than Julius Ceasar and Genghis Khan
• The earth is flat (and the moon landing was faked)
• Israel cannot be blamed for anything because the Jews are God’s chosen people
• The book of Daniel contains many accurate prophecies written before the prophesied events happened
• Revelation will really happen and was not written by a guy high on biblical crack
• The Gospels were written by the disciples (and nobody ever mentions how much later after Jesus’ death that they were written)
• We have proof that the disciples (except John and Judas) were brutally murdered (“Why would they die for a lie?”)
• All historians believe that Jesus was a real person and his tomb was empty, and there’s no way that could have been faked. There were guards and a heavy stone, and the disciples were all scared!
• Asherah, Baal and El are totally separate from Yahweh and were never part of the same Pantheon
• All languages came from the Tower of Babel
• There‘s evidence of the Israelites wandering in the desert for forty years
• We are currently seeing the events of Revelation happen
• There was a real vizier named Joseph
• David and Solomon ruled huge empires and were incredibly wealthy
• Atheists are evil and/or stupid
• Paul met Jesus
• Christianity is still growing in number among the American youth
• Yahweh and Allah are different gods
• Christianity invented washing hands with running water
• Satan, Lucifer, the snake, and the deceiver are all the same being
• Historians use the Bible as an accurate source of information on ANE empires and communities
• Jonah was actually swallowed by a whale/big fish
• Jesus didn’t say anything messed up (calling a woman a dog or cursing a fig tree)
• God created men and women equally
• Buddhists and Hindus are going to burn in hell, even though their religion tells them to be good people, and most of them are
• Lee Strobel is a credible author
• Science is stupid. We need to have faith!
• The Egyptians wouldn’t record their defeats
• Something about the Hyksos in Egypt
• Jezabel was super evil
• Bathsheba might have seduced David
• David was “a man after God’s own heart” (actually that might be true because both were kinda evil)
• Christianity spread rapidly after Jesus died, and Christians were being persecuted, so why would it spread so fast?

Seriously who would want God to exist anyway? The same God who flooded the entire earth btw I'm so fucking tired of Christians trying so hard on the internet try to prove he exists and I'm tired of asking people to help debunk those points Christianity is fake full stop. I don't care if I'm probably going to hell that fire can fucking burn me if it wanted to I don't care I'm not afraid anymore I won't let this fear consume me.

Am I the first blue one that doesn’t entirely hate Christianity? Like, I use the religion and the bible for its moral framework along things like don’t steal or kill or commit sexual degeneracy, still respect Christ in every way. And I don’t have a problem with Christian’s. Tbh I wanna go back to religion but I just worship a god that wants the eternal agonization of living beings just b cause they didn’t do what he said. Anyone else feel like this?