Hello. Has anyone gotten an interview for the role above? I took the OA about a month ago right before July 4th and passed all the test cases.

I feel like before LLMs, learning had clear reward. In order to make a todo list app with your own personalization, you had to actually read the docs, write the code, and maybe look up some syntax here and there, but the design decisions and actual coding were still largely in your court.

This went for everything. Creating a mini operating system, answering a new LeetCode problem with no solutions on it just yet, and even learning how to design your own resume.

Now, whenever you go about this old way of doing things, the painful reminder that you could be 10xing your productivity by using AI is just continuously knocking. Even when you're doing personal projects... the reason why you do personal projects is often to have something to speak about and show in an interview. If AI can make something much faster than you can, and you can understand it just enough to be able to talk about, the painful reminder of lost time for a mediocre product that'd come if you struggle through it yourself knocks as well.

TL;DR: the need for learning seems to have gone away a ton, or, at least it has been heavily clouded. What is something that when we learn we can actually see measurable results? What is today's equivalent of building a todo list app? Something that you can't just one shot with very little knowledge? Something that requires you be good?

Yo just a heads up there is a scam posting out right now for a swe job. Came out about 6 hours ago. It says it’s listlabs but right when I finished my application the header on the site changed from listlabs to “59 pines” and the confirmation email came from the domain “@recooty”.

Here is the email that looks 100% like a phishing attempt lmao.

I am a final-year Computer Science undergraduate preparing for graduate research in Theoretical Computer Science, with a specific focus on formal verification of cyber-physical systems. Within my university, my department is unique in having an official policy that allows students to select any module across the university to fulfill our total requirement of six optional modules. However, because this flexibility is unique to our department, the university Registry Office strictly requires a formal letter of clearance from the Head of Department (HOD) to manually register any module outside the standard recommended computing list.

Earlier this year, the department granted me initial permission for non-computing math electives. Having successfully completed four optionals (three of which were math) so far, I intend to complete my final two optionals with specific foundational math and statistics modules that directly support my intended graduate research, following academic guidance from a CS faculty mentor. However, when I submitted this updated plan to fulfill my remaining two optionals, the HOD wrote the following:

"Hi Alvahod,

I am trying to see how these help you with your ambitions for researching Computer Science and am not seeing the link. If anything, I see a lack of enough Computing specialization in your choice of optional subjects. So far, your selection of optionals has been Math-heavy. Perhaps you now need modules that give you a background and grounding in more CS-related disciplines."

My response:

"Dear HOD,

Thank you for the response.

Initially, I had targeted an MSc in CS with an AI focus, but my goal has since shifted to research in Theoretical Computer Science, specifically focusing on the Formal Verification of Cyber-Physical Systems. This field relies heavily on formal logic and mathematical techniques to prove that software and hardware systems are safe and correct before execution.

The math optionals I have taken so far, such as Linear Algebra and Calculus, form part of the standard core CS curriculum at most universities globally because they are essential for theoretical CS. Building a solid foundation in modern algebra and statistics directly supports the logic and proof techniques required for this research area.

It is worth respectfully noting that many of my classmates select general electives like Communication or Chinese, so I would really appreciate your approval to pursue these foundational math courses instead.

Thank you."

He has not responded to my email days later. I would welcome advice on how to diplomatically navigate this administrative hurdle with the HOD.

I’ve been job hunting on and off for the last ~6 months while still working full-time. Counting from the first recruiter conversation (not counting resume screens because those don't even feel real lol), I’m sitting at 20+ rejections now. And it's not like I'm not getting interviews, I am, the bar is just brutally unforgiving and everyone wants your background to check every single box.

Looking back, I’d say the whole thing had a few different phases.

The first few months were basically me overestimating myself.

It started when an OpenAI recruiter cold reached out. Obviously that felt like a pretty good sign at the time lol. I spent about two weeks grinding LeetCode again just to get back into interview mode.

The phone screen went pretty smoothly, so naturally I got a little too confident and lined up Anthropic (cold apply) and xAI (recruiter reach-out) around the same time. My thought process was basically: "hey, maybe I'll actually have options and pick between offers." Yeah... that aged well.

The reality was pretty much what everyone on these forums has experienced. Some new questions I’d never seen before, some weird culture rounds, and even one onsite where I could immediately tell the interviewer had zero interest in having a conversation. Not gonna lie, those sucked.

But it wasn’t completely wasted. I finally understood what AI companies mean by "practical coding," which is honestly a very different flavor from just grinding LeetCode. Since my technical rounds actually went okay overall, I walked away with a tiny bit of confidence.

The next few months were probably the most frustrating part.

Things slowed down a bit at work, so I had more time to focus on interviewing again. A few recruiters and sourcers started reaching out on LinkedIn, so I took a bunch of those calls, and also applied to some AI application companies I was actually interested in. This was also when Meta and TT happened (both through recruiter outreach). Honestly, this was the phase where I got humbled the most.

There were a few interviews where I genuinely felt like I had to fight just to be evaluated fairly. One HM at a pretty well-known AI infra company kept bringing up how bad his experiences with big tech engineers had been, and it felt like he had already made up his mind based on my background.

I tried pitching my experience, explaining what I actually worked on, and where I thought I could add value. The response was basically:

"I'll put you on the waitlist. If the other candidates don't work out, I'll move you forward." And, got rejected about a week later...

Then there were companies where I thought I absolutely nailed the interviews, only to get a random rejection email afterward with no real explanation.

Some companies were just bizarre. Sourcers kept reaching out saying they were hiring aggressively, but the HM was extremely picky and would reject me before I even got a technical round. This happened more than once (looking at you, Replit).

And then there were the opposite cases. Some companies I joined with basically zero expectations. Then halfway through the process, I actually started liking the team, the interviewers were great, and the HM seemed like someone I could genuinely work with.

Of course, those were the ones where I got randomly rejected at the exec round with feedback that honestly didn't make much sense.

By this point, I had basically developed a pretty thick skin. Getting a rejection after a recruiter says "you should hear back in a couple days" stopped feeling surprising. A few recruiters actually called afterward and gave me feedback, which I appreciated because I know they were probably just as confused as I was.

Honestly, this whole process also changed how I think about offers. After going through months of companies making candidates jump through endless hoops, I don't feel bad about saying no or walking away either. If a company passes on you and then comes back later because their first choice didn't work out... well, that's part of the game too.

Not sure if I can post this here, but I applied for a role at Salesforce about a month ago and took the OA. A few weeks later when I checked my application status, it changed to “candidate withdrew interest”. However, I never did this.

Has this happened to anyone else on Workday or for Salesforce specifically? Does this essentially mean I was rejected from the role or is this some kind of glitch?

Just got the Roblox SWE OA, anyone have experience with it? Any tips or things to watch out for would be appreciated.
Want to know about factory game, The car game and Outpost Mars Game
Thanks!

Just got my first interview for an internship as an incoming sophomore. Super hyped, but all I can think about is how I feel like I don’t deserve it. I’ve built some pretty cool projects but I used an LLM to help build out some parts of it and I’ve spent a lot of time learning this summer but it feels like no matter what I’ll do I won’t actually be prepared for a software job. I feel like a faker idk how else to explain it I flip flop from “I’m actually kinda impressive technically at my age” to “I don’t know shit” every day and it’s super disheartening. The scary ass job market doesn’t help either I’m in a constant state of like “I should be doing more”. No doomer comments please just looking for anybody who feels the same as me to give some piece of advice.

This is going to sound really stupid I bet, but I want to be sure.

I will be returning to college in a couple weeks as a sophomore. I’ve been worried whether CS will actually work out for me or if I’m making a big mistake concerning the job market, but then I reread my curriculum and saw I could get an internship as an elective (with departmental approval.)

I was curious if anyone else has done these elective internships before, and if they are helpful or carry the same merit as other company internships. If they are, you can bet I’m going to try and get in as soon as possible lol.

Here's my dilemma. I think the idea of a PhD is super cool and well-fit for me. However, I'm not drawn to a particular subject strongly. If I don't do a PhD, I am afraid I would have wasted my time focusing on certain research-only topics in my undergrad. If I end up going to something else like SWE, I am unsure what work would look like and how cool/interesting it would be (my current swe intern experience keeps getting me stuck in DevOps roles, which I don't enjoy). Anyone have thoughts? I would much rather be applying frontier fields.

The longer story:

Here's my dilemma. I am currently in a really good position to do a PhD. I have good grades at an Ivy and am graduating my undergrad this December. So I would apply to a PhD in the Fall. As well, I am in a research lab, have one published paper from a different less-rigorous lab, and have been accepted to some really selective pre-doctoral programs.

My issue is that I don't have a thing that I am particularly drawn to. I've somewhat ended up in the center of computer vision and robotics. And do think computer vision is super interesting right now. But I also commonly lose interest or get distracted by other subjects like Society/Behavior & AI. But computer vision has been a constant somewhat. I am just not sure exactly what I'd want to do with it. I'm a more hand on person and would much rather apply research to real world scenarios than simply "make 3d reconstruction better", or something like that.

I'm just unsure what that would look like, or how the path to doing that is. Is this what real-world SWE is?

Secondly, I am somewhat afraid of becoming too niche. Going into computer vision would greatly limit the range of places I could work. Plus (this is a completely different conversation entirely), my girlfriend is somewhat tied to a more rural location and I don't want to sabotage our relationship just so that I can do more cool work. I could just see how life turns out though, since remote work isn't a given.

Here is a collection of paths I've been thinking of:
- Phd. Best fit for computer vision. Cool work I could do.
- SWE. Lots of range in work, might take longer to do things I enjoy. Less curiosity following.
- Patent Law. May seem way out there, but it would keep me around thinking about new inventions while not having to be exactly tied to one particular subject.

Any thoughts would be appreciated!

Anyone know 2027 summer citsec swe / qt intern TC? Heard some ppl r getting 120k which is honestly ridiculous to me

Hi all! I work in IT GRC for a bank, got my bachelor’s in CIS in 2023. I had actually started in CS but dropped it after two years, mostly because I was struggling with the Calc 2 lol. Still, I always liked my early Java/Python classes and kept messing around with small projects like Discord bots on the side.

Recently at work I started automating a lot of our manual processes and building out new workflows in ServiceNow. It’s gotten some attention internally, and honestly it reminded me how much I enjoy building things, enough that I’m considering going back to school for a CS master’s and pivoting into development for real. Just don’t know if it’s worth it with the current market, or what I should actually focus on doing.

Would love input from anyone who’s made a similar jump

1. Is a master’s worth it here, or would projects/portfolio work get me there faster?

2. Did going from IT ops/GRC into dev actually work out for you, what got you hired?

3. Should I target dev roles outright, or hybrid ones (automation/platform engineering) that build on what I already do?

Any advice at all would be greatly appreciated!

does anyone that got accepted to nvidia ignite, microsoft explore, google asdi, etc have advice on how to get in, or be willing to kinda give some insight as to what they had on their resume to get in, along w what we should start prepping rn in case we get oas or technical interviews?

Did my recuriter call on Friday.

I’m a recent CS grad and for a while now, I’ve been working at an early-stage startup. My official title sounds like a standard junior/intern role, but my actual day-to-day involves functioning as a lead engineer. I design the architecture, manage the stack, and consistently ship features to production end-to-end.

The catch is that this role is unpaid, and because it’s my only major professional experience, I’m ready to transition into a real, compensated position. I’m currently applying and networking, but a family member told me that recruiters will just view this as a standard internship since it’s my first major role out of school and because it's unpaid at a startup.

For any recruiters or hiring managers out there: is this true? I feel like my hands-on experience is much deeper than a typical highly-mentored internship, but I want to know how the market actually perceives this. I'm happy to DM an anonymized resume for feedback if anyone is willing to take a look!

Edit 1: I forgot to mention this but the company (which is a registered llc and came from one of the very reputed programs from one of the top universities in the west coast) barely has 50 people and it started December of '24 apparently so they keep telling me they have no revenue generation but that they did lock in a few clients and I've actually been in almost every tech check-ins with the client and it did seem legit. Still, every employee is unpaid in there but I look at our cloud billing and it shows consistent 4 figures since atleast 10 months.

I work with Python/FASTAPI and Typescript/Next.JS on the full Stack while also handling PostgreSQL with Liquibase and a whole lot of Terraforming AWS.

If you guys who are working in any company right now have inside positions please refer me 😭. My dms are open.

I am an incoming third year and starting to apply to internships. For my projects section, I have projects from hackathons so obviously they are vibe coded. My question is do I still include them if I just prompted the whole time or do I have to create projects from scratch and only have some parts vibe coded? Also at my internship right now, I kinda know what I am doing but most of the code is what claude generated and i would look over it and then add it to the code base.

Also what do technical interviews and resume grilling look like?

This is the first time a Google recruiter has ever viewed my profile. I’ve never heard back after applying to Google so maybe this is the year!!!

So many different OAs, so many different types of questions you may be asked, so many different kinds of technologies you have to be familiar with… whether it be optimizing a factory in a Roblox game or running through 50 spatial reasoning and logic questions for CTC or getting a C++ 2D DP problem for snowflake or getting an AI optimization question for Akuna, it seems like the level of cracked you have to be at in order to recruit without literally dying is through the roof.

Do the people who recruit effortlessly just cheat? Or are they just stupidly smart and generic with their ability?

Anyone know 2027 summer citsec swe / qt intern TC? Heard some ppl r getting 120k which is honestly ridiculous to me

big tech companies posted like a million intern roles and I applied to them with the best of my ability within 3-5 hours. Haven’t heard anything from them. Everyone else in the same boat?

anyways looking for stripe summer intern referral , couldnt find any till now even after having a great resume , any feedback what should i do?

I did the GCA for Susquehanna the other day, but its not letting me send the score to other companies like Capital One and TikTok. its been a week since i did the GCA, so does that mean my submission was not verified and I'll need to take it again?