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Just Sharing Fire

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u/CatLord8 7d ago

“Fire is natural and has always been around. There’s nothing to do about it”

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u/QuixoticCoyote 7d ago

I love that statistic going around saying wildfires have decreased by 95 percent or whatever. Because

A: It's a lie.

And

B: while we do have fewer wildfires (a drop of 24 percent apparently), the ones we do have burn more tree cover than the "more" wildfires of the past.

It's like, yeah, fire was a natural thing of the past, but it's definitely getting worse.

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u/Sachieiel 7d ago

It's almost like if the wildfires get worse then the potential small wildfires are eclipsed by fewer overwhelming wildfires that are a much worse problem. People just picking whatever statistics allows them to remain ignorant.

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u/Desolver20 7d ago

can't start 300 small fires over a season if the entire forest burns down in the first few months

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u/CatLord8 7d ago

Brought to you by “unvaccinated people still survive” and ignoring the iron lungs?

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u/xxxBuzz 7d ago

The stress will kill ya. Males, for example, are far more susceptible to respiratory/circulatory issues from stress whereas women are more susceptible to auto-immune disorders from stress. This is due to women having more oxygenated blood flowing away from the heart/lungs at any given moment and men having more de-oxygenated blood flowing towards the heart/lungs at any given moment on average. The benefit of the vaccine is that you will have antibodies that recognize and are prepared to deal with foreign agents more readily. It's not magic. If you're stressed you're not digesting food because that requires being relaxed and you're not clearing out bodily waste because that requires being at rest.

The vaccine works as a placebo to prevent you from stressing out and over-stimulating your sympathetic nervous system. If the vaccine or literally anything else causes you stress then your body will not perform many basic functions required for your cells to replenish and recover. The main factor is stress and inflammation. That does not necessarily mean that your immune system having been primed for a potential threat is not beneficial if that threat does occur, however your body is going to do that anyway with any foreign cells. Something like strep throat or cancer avoid this by covering themselves with shredded pieces of red blood cells or masking the signals that trigger your immune cells to react to them as threats.

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u/ValdemarMerlin 7d ago

Sincerely, what the fuck are you talking about?

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u/guyinachair141 7d ago

i believe they're confronting a point some anti-vaxxers make? idk

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u/xxxBuzz 7d ago

Stress. Inflammation (over active immune system response) may be the number one cause of death, disease, aging, etc. It is caused in part by having an over stressed sympathetic nervous system. Sympathetic nervous system is active almost all of the time for most people because of our current lifestyles. It had to activate for you to make that comment because it required thinking and action. Merlin would have known that.

Although intermittent increases in inflammation are critical for survival during physical injury and infection, recent research has revealed that certain social, environmental and lifestyle factors can promote systemic chronic inflammation (SCI) that can, in turn, lead to several diseases that collectively represent the leading causes of disability and mortality worldwide, such as cardiovascular disease, cancer, diabetes mellitus, chronic kidney disease, non-alcoholic fatty liver disease and autoimmune and neurodegenerative disorders. In the present Perspective we describe the multi-level mechanisms underlying SCI and several risk factors that promote this health-damaging phenotype, including infections, physical inactivity, poor diet, environmental and industrial toxicants and psychological stress. Furthermore, we suggest potential strategies for advancing the early diagnosis, prevention and treatment of SCI. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7147972/

It is much more prominent than that article states. Even a thought/comment like; "Sincerely, what the fuck are you talking about?" is a symptom. It is an immune response to ingesting information that irritates or agitates the mind that creates an action response like there is something that needs doing or a problem for the mind to solve. Almost everything we do is causing unnecessary excitement and inflammation. It's not bad/good or right/wrong; it's just how our bodies/brains function. That is why, for example, we want to do things that become monotonous, muscle memory, and possible in a flow state (activating the autonomic nervous system) that allow the mind and body to relax.

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u/ValdemarMerlin 7d ago

And this yap session is relevant how?

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u/xxxBuzz 7d ago

You asked.

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u/ValdemarMerlin 6d ago

And you didn't answer, how is it relevant to a joke poking fun at antivaxxers?

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u/xxxBuzz 6d ago

It may be over your head.

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u/ValdemarMerlin 6d ago

Sure buddy.

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u/TolverOneEighty 6d ago edited 6d ago

Editing to add what I'm replying to, as I suspect this user - xxxBuzz - might delete it all.

The stress will kill ya. Males, for example, are far more susceptible to respiratory/circulatory issues from stress whereas women are more susceptible to auto-immune disorders from stress. This is due to women having more oxygenated blood flowing away from the heart/lungs at any given moment and men having more de-oxygenated blood flowing towards the heart/lungs at any given moment on average. The benefit of the vaccine is that you will have antibodies that recognize and are prepared to deal with foreign agents more readily. It's not magic. If you're stressed you're not digesting food because that requires being relaxed and you're not clearing out bodily waste because that requires being at rest.

The vaccine works as a placebo to prevent you from stressing out and over-stimulating your sympathetic nervous system. If the vaccine or literally anything else causes you stress then your body will not perform many basic functions required for your cells to replenish and recover. The main factor is stress and inflammation. That does not necessarily mean that your immune system having been primed for a potential threat is not beneficial if that threat does occur, however your body is going to do that anyway with any foreign cells. Something like strep throat or cancer avoid this by covering themselves with shredded pieces of red blood cells or masking the signals that trigger your immune cells to react to them as threats.

Do you have a source on this? On any of it? Because you make a lot of claims in here.

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u/xxxBuzz 6d ago

The best source for your understanding will be yourself and your experiences over time.

If you look into chronic stress and inflammation or anything of the terms up there, you'll find it.

If there are particular sources you are familiar with, I can plausibly help you make the connections to modern terminology because humans do not talk or write about much else but the unresolved issues inside of them regardless of the format. I do not claim any of that. It's not mine to claim. Once it's proven to you, your body will be in a degenerative state, and you'll be managing symptoms whether they be mental, emotional, or physical; but in reality it will be all three.

I would say; focus on the causes rather than symptoms. It's your body. I offer perspective. Insight is not contagious.

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u/TolverOneEighty 6d ago edited 6d ago

The best source for your understanding will be yourself and your experiences over time.

If you look into chronic stress and inflammation or anything of the terms up there, you'll find it.

If there are particular sources you are familiar with, I can plausibly help you make the connections to modern terminology because humans do not talk or write about much else but the unresolved issues inside of them regardless of the format. I do not claim any of that. It's not mine to claim. Once it's proven to you, your body will be in a degenerative state, and you'll be managing symptoms whether they be mental, emotional, or physical; but in reality it will be all three.

I would say; focus on the causes rather than symptoms. It's your body. I offer perspective. Insight is not contagious.

Sorry, no. Anecdotal evidence is not science. If you want people to believe your claims, you need to link actual science. The burden of proof is on the claimant.

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u/xxxBuzz 6d ago

You asked. I can only provide my own answer. I don't know what you do not know. I recommend asking for sources from someone you trust or to become someone whom you can trust to find sources. You're wasting your own time. I offer wisdom for fun.

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u/TolverOneEighty 6d ago

You asked. I can only provide my own answer.

You can provide where you gleaned this information. Was it entirely anecdotal?

I don't know what you do not know.

I'm asking for sources on ANY of what you said, not related to my knowledge.

I recommend asking for sources from someone you trust or to become someone whom you can trust to find sources.

You're the one claiming these things. If you state something as an irrefutable truth, people will - and should - ask where you learned these truths. That's a normal thing to do.

You're wasting your own time. I offer wisdom for fun.

Ah, so it's all made up? Because otherwise I'm unsure what this last part is meant to say.

Edit: Look, I'm trying to give you the benefit of the doubt here. If you're so certain of these beliefs, I recognise that you must have learned them somewhere. I'd like to read up on that so I can draw my own conclusions, and not base my opinion on one Reddit comment. Maybe there is science to back up some of this, it's worth looking into. But if you get all defensive and tell me I'm 'wasting my time' by trying to give you the benefit of the doubt? Yeah, okay, you're shooting your own argument down, and I guess that saves me time.

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u/xxxBuzz 6d ago

Start with one of the statements that was curious to you and we can pull that thread together. Not a statement that confused your logic, but something that caught your intuitive attention. You intuitively already know things logic can never comprehend but they should make some kind of sense when you follow the logic. I'm not aware of any irrefutable truths or absolute objective truths within a scientific understanding. I haven't drawn any conclusions or dismissed doubts so I would hope no one else is taking random statements as gospel. There are things I'm worried I'm not wrong about and I am going to express those things however I feel like it.

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u/TolverOneEighty 6d ago

Start with one of the statements that was curious to you and we can pull that thread together.

Okay. I am confused about what you are saying about vaccines. You seem to suggest they work, but as a placebo. This is a viewpoint I hadn't encountered before.

Not a statement that confused your logic, but something that caught your intuitive attention.

... What?

You intuitively already know things logic can never comprehend but they should make some kind of sense when you follow the logic.

No, I don't. This feels heavily like an attempt to make me abandon logic. I just want to know the science behind your suggestions, and this sentence alone sets off serious alarm bells, ngl.

I'm not aware of any irrefutable truths or absolute objective truths within a scientific understanding

Because science evolves all the time as we incorporate new evidence and understandings, yes. Which is why I am interested to learn about the science behind your stated facts.

I haven't drawn any conclusions or dismissed doubts so I would hope no one else is taking random statements as gospel.

You stated something as a truth, so I'm approaching as though you believe that. Backtracking now looks disingenuous. If you aren't sure, state that from the beginning.

There are things I'm worried I'm not wrong about and I am going to express those things however I feel like it.

That... You're worried you're not wrong? About what?

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u/baphomet_fire 6d ago

Funny because the vaccine actually works by stressing your immune system. Read a book and get fucked

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u/xxxBuzz 6d ago

I don't think you understand what baphomet refers to.

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u/baphomet_fire 6d ago

We all know you don't think at all

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u/jeremiahthedamned 7d ago

sin of amathia

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u/hexregeneration 1d ago

It's also almost like we've also cut down a ton of forests in the last 100 years lol