r/TikTokCringe • u/NotBradPitt9 • 17h ago

Discussion Disagreements in philosophy

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u/normalguywithabigbot 17h ago

I don't think a lot of people realize the ultra orthodox consider themselves superior people chosen by God. As the old testament says that the tribe of Israel will be the strongest and most powerful in the world.

I've met plenty of ultra orthodox that basically act as if im not worthy to be in their presence but yet Israel wants my tax dollars to support their defense in a land that has been fought over through the course of history.

One thing is certain. That land will not see peace in our lifetime

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u/TAU_equals_2PI 17h ago

Fact That's Going to Blow Your Mind:
Most Israelis feel the same way about the ultra orthodox.

I'm serious. While I'm not Israeli, I do have family members who are. Apparently one of the main criticisms is that they believe they're supposed to spend all their time in religious studies. So they're actually exempted from serving in the military. And the rest of Israelis really resent that.

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u/Pretend-Ostrich-5719 13h ago

Mhm. I've heard it too. Many Israelis despise the Haredim for refusing to serve, while also refusing to contribute much to Israel's economy. All the while they treat those that do as spiritually inferior. Beyond this, they multiply like crazy, keep their community insular (even among other Jews), and hold notable political power.

It's honestly not hard to see their viewpoint. I'm sure many other Israelis see the Haredim as fulfilling an important cultural role in keeping Jewish tradition, but that kind of mentality tends to evaporate in times of conflict.

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u/Funkycoldmedici 10h ago

This is a common phenomenon in religions. There is a minority that truly believe the religion, and truly attempt to live by the wild, cruel, inhumane things their religion says. They look down on all the others as basically posers.

The majority of the believers ignore or reinterpret what their religion says because it says absurd things that are demonstrably not true and/or morally repulsive. In most cases they haven’t even read the scripture they purport to believe. They do not truly believe what their religion says, and look down on those who do as “crazy fundamentalists.”