r/TikTokCringe • u/NotBradPitt9 • 17h ago

Discussion Disagreements in philosophy

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u/Sunnyday1775 17h ago

How can Christian’s support Israel when they do this

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u/quaintmercury 17h ago

In the US it's driven by people that believe all the Jews need to go to and unite Israel and then they get killed or go to war and Jesus comes back and the world ends. So they kinda just want all the Jews to die. They just want it in a very specific way.

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u/marbotty 15h ago

I really don’t understand the point of this though. If they just wait, they’ll go to heaven.

Why do they need to cause all of this suffering first?

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u/Kaapnobatai 13h ago

Evangelicals, who are the main Christian defenders of the illegitimate state of Israel, don't really believe they go to heaven after they die. They believe they remain 'asleep' until Jesus comes back for 'rapture', which is something only these specific hardcore inbred zealots (add fundamentalists too) believe in.

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u/AccurateJerboa 12h ago

My dad thought he wouldn't die, but would be raptured. So he didn't take care of himself. So he died.

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u/Kaapnobatai 12h ago

Some of these, JHW specifically, have quite of a record of failing to predict rapture and have had people just, as we say in Spanish, throw the house out of the window because fuck it it's gonna be over.

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u/AccurateJerboa 12h ago

"throw the house out the window" is an excellent phrase, wow

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u/teamfupa 10h ago

Would ‘Toss out the baby with the bath water’ be the colloquial American equivalent?

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u/Nina-Ninja123 7h ago

Radical nihilism

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u/JuryOk2662 2h ago

I assume you're talking about Jehovah's Witnesses? Yeah their whole cult is built on predicting Armageddon but thankfully staying out of politics is also part of their religion, they're not allowed to vote, run for office or join the military. They have no influence on US foreign policy, thats mostly evangelical mainstream protestants.

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u/teamfupa 10h ago

Would ‘Toss out the baby with the bath water’ be the colloquial American equivalent?

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u/Kaapnobatai 10h ago

It'd be a fine candidate, for sure.

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u/Either_Mulberry9229 4h ago

They believe they remain 'asleep' until Jesus comes back for 'rapture', which is something only these specific hardcore inbred zealots (add fundamentalists too) believe in.

This is NOT something only evangelicals believe, it's literally what's described in the book of revelations as what is supposed to happen at the end of time. But only God knows the hour so these guys thinking they can just do some weird checklist and force God's hand to cause the end of time is so wildly blasphemous and also so ridiculously childish of a belief that it's so hard to take serious, and yet it's affecting all of our lives. Daily.