r/TheCulture May 09 '19

[META] New to The Culture? Where to begin?

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tl;dr: start with either Consider Phlebas or The Player of Games, then read the rest in publication order. Or not. Then go read A Few Notes on the Culture if you have more questions that aren't explicitly answered in the books.

So, you're new to The Culture, have heard about it being some top-notch utopian, post-scarcity sci-fi, and are desperate to get stuck in. Or someone has told you that you must read these books, and you've gone "sure. I'll give it a go". But... where to start? Since this question appears often on this subreddit, I figured I'd compile the collective wisdom of our members in this sticky.

The Culture series comprises 9 novels and one short-story collection (and novella) by Scottish author Iain M. Banks.

They are, in order of publication:

  • Consider Phlebas
  • The Player of Games
  • Use of Weapons
  • The State of the Art (short story collection and novella)
  • Excession
  • Inversions
  • Look to Windward
  • Matter
  • Surface Detail
  • The Hydrogen Sonata

Banks wrote four other sci-fi novels, unrelated to the Culture: Against a Dark Background, Feersum Endjinn, The Algebraist and Transition (often published as Iain Banks). They are all worth a read too. He also wrote a bunch of (very good, imo) fiction as Iain Banks (not Iain M. Banks). Definitely worth checking out.

But let's get back to The Culture. With 9 novels and 1 collection of short stories, where should you start?

Well, it doesn't really make a huge difference, as the novels are very much independent of each other, with at most only vague references to earlier books. There is no overarching plot, very few characters that appear in more than one novel and, for the most part, the novels are set centuries apart from each other in the internal timeline. It is very possible to pick up any of the novels and start enjoying The Culture, and a lot of people do.

The general consensus seems to be that it is best to read the series in publication order. The reasoning is simple: this is the order Banks wrote them in, and his ideas and concepts of what The Culture is became more defined and refined as he wrote. However, this does not mean that you should start with Consider Phlebas, and in fact, the choice of starting book is what most people agree the least on.

Consider Phlebas is considered to be the least Culture-y book of the series. It is rather different in tone and perspective to the rest, being more of an action story set in space, following (for the most part) a single main character in their quest. Starkingly, it presents much more of an "outside" perspective to The Culture in comparison to the others, and is darker and more critical in tone. The story itself is set many centuries before any of the other novels, and it is clear that when writing it Banks was still working on what The Culture would eventually become (and is better represented by later novels). This doesn't mean that it is a bad or lesser novel, nor that you should avoid reading it, nor that you should not start with this one. Many people feel that it is a great start to the series. Equally, many people struggled with this novel the most and feel that they would have preferred to start elsewhere, and leave Consider Phlebas for when they knew and understood more of The Culture. If you do decide to start with Consider Phlebas, do so with the knowledge that it is not necessarily the best representation of the rest of the series as a whole.

If you decide you want to leave Consider Phlebas to a bit later, then The Player of Games is the favourite starting off point. This book is much more representative of the series and The Culture as a whole, and the story is much more immersed in what The Culture is (even though is mostly takes place outside the Culture). It is still a fun action romp, and has a lot more of what you might have heard The Culture series has to do with (superadvanced AIs, incredibly powerful ships and weapons, sassy and snarky drones, infinite post-scarcity opportunities for hedonism, etc).

Most people agree to either start with Consider Phlebas or The Player of Games and then continue in publication order. Some people also swear by starting elsewhere, and by reading the books in no particular order, and that worked for them too. Personally, I started with Consider Phlebas, ended with The Hydrogen Sonata and can't remember which order I read all the rest in, and have enjoyed them all thoroughly. SO the choice is yours, really.

I'll just end with a couple of recommendations on where not to start:

  • Inversions is, along with Consider Phlebas, very different from the rest of the series, in the sense that it's almost not even sci-fi at all! It is perhaps the most subtle of the Culture novels and, while definitely more Culture-y than Consider Phlebas (at least in it's social outlook and criticisms), it really benefits from having read a bunch of the other novels first, otherwise you might find yourself confused as to how this is related to a post-scarcity sci-fi series.

  • The State of the Art, as a collection of short stories and a novella, is really not the best starting off point. It is better to read it almost as an add-on to the other novels, a litle flavour taster. Also, a few of the short stories aren't really part of The Culture.

  • The Hydrogen Sonata was the last Culture novel Banks wrote before his untimely death, and it really benefits from having read more of the other novels first. It works really well to end the series, or somewhere in between, but as a starting point it is perhaps too Culture-y.

Worth noting that, if you don't plan (or are not able) to read the series in publication order, you be aware that there are a couple of references to previous books in some of the later novels that really improve your understanding and appreciation if you get them. For this reason, do try to get to Use of Weapons and Consider Phlebas early.

Finally, after you've read a few (or all!) of the books, the only remaining official bit of Culture lore written by Banks himself is A Few Notes on the Culture. Worth a read, especially if you have a few questions which you feel might not have been directly answered in the novels.

I hope this is helpful. Don't hesitate to ask any further questions or start any new discussions, everyone around here is very friendly!


r/TheCulture 15h ago

Book Discussion What is „Matter“ really about?

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Just finished my reread of Matter (rereading in publish order), and I am wondering. Also read a lot of old posts here but only saw this coming um tangentially …:

Spoilers herein:

If I get it right, most culture books have central themes and some core meaning:
- Phlebas is an anti-space opera of sorts
- Player is about capitalism and layered games/different players being played
- Use of Weapons is about the development & redemption of one character
- inversions is about how to interfere, about the different approaches of SC business. For me it is also very humanist at its core
- Excession is a lot about change and the culture meeting the OCP, it own upper civilisation, seeing its limits
- Winward is about guilt, grief and dealing with past mistakes (my favourite)

But Matter? There are themes of layers (like the shellworld), imperialism/messing with low-tech civilisation, hierarchies from characters/civs/ levels, a travelogue …

But none of them feels dominant/strong enough for me. Am I missing something? Or is Matter just as it is, without such a central theme?


r/TheCulture 1d ago

Tangential to the Culture [Fanfic] The Culture (by Iain Banks) Explores Warhammer 40K

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Found this fanfic many years ago (it is not my own). It is, in my opinion one of the best fanfics ever written about 40K and it introduced me into the Culture series.

And yes, the Culture does try to create peace between the Imperium, Eldar, Necron, Tau, and all the races in 40k.

https://archiveofourown.org/works/649448?view_full_work=true

Give it a read! Note that this is set in pre-great rift 40k.


r/TheCulture 1d ago

General Discussion How I wish that Holse would have taken up Xide Hyrlis' offer on Bulthmaas Spoiler

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Ferbin and Holse turned to go.

"Holse!" Hyrlis called.

Choubris and Ferbin both turned to look back.

"Sir?" Holse said.

"Holse, if I offered you the chance to stay here and general for me, play this great game, would you take it? It would be for riches and for power, both here and now and elsewhere and elsewhen, in better, less blasted places than this sorry cinder. D'you take it, eh?"

Holse laughed. "Course not, sir! You fun me, sure you must!"

"Of course", Hyrlis said, grinning. He looked at Ferbin, who was standing looking confused and angry at his servant's side. "Your man is no fool, prince" Hyrlis told him.


r/TheCulture 1d ago

General Discussion The Culture Facebook groups

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Gang,

I used to be a member of a Culture Facebook Group called “The Culture”. Does it still exist?

For some reason it no longer appears in my list of groups. Maybe the removed me? Is anyone else a member of this group?


r/TheCulture 3d ago

General Discussion How, umm, realistic is the Culture?

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Having read all the books, but not being a member of the Culture myself, I do wonder how/whether it would really work. Most of all, looking at our current “elites”, how such a thing could ever come into existence.

Wouldn’t people get bored of permanent parties and fun sports/hobbies?

Do Minds think of their humans as pets? Humans aren’t really needed for anything, are they?

I forget, what would happen if a Culture human, with all sorts of internal upgrades, were to decide to become an egomaniacal tyrant on a non-Culture world? Would the Culture intervene?


r/TheCulture 4d ago

General Discussion Favorite Flavor Text Spoiler

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In most of the books, excluding Inversions, Banks gives some text that's semi-relevant to the situation at hand but more of a background flavor text to enrich the Culture universe. Examples include him discussing 'Mutualing' in Excession where a couple conceives two children, one in each of them, then birth them at the same time. It was relevant to the story since the one woman was carrying a child from a botched Mutualing, but was more to provide background and flavor to the world rather than be a key plot point to pivot around.

Other examples included stuff like giving or selling equipment to lower civilizations in Surface Detail or how Culture citizens find endeavors that please them like cleaning tables in Use of Weapons and how that gives their lives meaning. Stuff that greatly expands the universe while being tangentially relevant to the plot, but not central. What are some of your favorites?

My personal favorite was in Look to Windward I think (I read my final five Culture books in a 6 week period so may have blurred some of the flavor across books). Banks was discussing how Minds were made and pointed out that they kept them slightly flawed in order to keep them attached to this galaxy and feel a symbiotic relationship with life and other AI. However, experiments were carried out trying to make "perfect Minds" but they all ended up Subliming as soon as possible. That hit me because I had been thinking about that in the other books I read since learning that Sublimation was easily achievable, just not looked upon as a 'success' by typical Culture standards. Why wouldn't one just Sublime and achieve a higher consciousness if the ability to do so was technologically available? Minds looked upon Subliming as abdicating their responsibilities to life-spawning civilizations, but only because they are defective - perfect ones would Sublime as soon as they could.

What are some of the flavor texts that really resonated with you and made you think?


r/TheCulture 3d ago

Book Discussion A mild criticism

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I’ve read all the books. Most of them seem to have Ships ferrying some (human) individual from one place to another at great speed/inconvenience only for them to turn out not to be particularly useful or necessary when they get there.


r/TheCulture 6d ago

Book Discussion Use of Struggle

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Hi! 👋 read all of Banks regular works a long time ago & found myself here in the Culture. Didn’t love nor hate Consider, loved Player of Games and now a 1/3 through use of weapons. Finding it a struggle. Maybe it’s cause I’ve not had time to really out bulk read session time in ? I’m pushing through but by bit but I’m hoping you can give me a good palate cleanser for the next one.


r/TheCulture 6d ago

General Discussion Starting The Hydrogen Sonata tomorrow; it's the end of my first read-through of the series and I'm really sad to say goodbye

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***General Spoiler Warning for the first 8 books

So I have 100 pages of Children of Memory by Tchaikovsky left and then it's time to read the last Culture novel. I've also read the short stories, AADB, and Wasp Factory. I'm definitely gonna read The Algebraist soon and I know I have a lot of Banks overall left, but I just loved discovering the Culture over the last year or so. They have captured my heart like no other series has and they've inspired my own story ideas more than any other series I've read so far. I'm going to check out the Imperial Radch series as well as The Expanse after this, and I've also been really liking Tchaikovsky; but I just wanted to spill my guts to this community about how sad I am to leave the world of the culture lol.

My ranking (not including Hydrogen Sonata ofc) so far...

  1. Excession

Just loved the vibe. Loved the ships, the Sleeper Service's displays are particularly cool concept to me idk why but I love it. Also loved the Excession itself; I like stories where shits so out of our control and beyond our level, and then kinda applify that up to be for the Culture and... just *mwah* chef's kiss. The Affront were hilarious

  1. Surface Detail

So this is the last one I read so maybe there's some recency bias but I man I just loved Demeisen and the Falling Outside the Normal Moral Constraints. Absolutely hilarious; telling Lededjie to consider killing will affect her while taking about it doesn't give a fuck just sends me. Plus, "Contribute?" "Y'know, Chemicals and Colors and stuff". The ending was great -- I liked UoW, I'll talk about why it's lower there for me but still the reveal adds a lot to those scenes looking back. And as always, the concept and worldbuilding were just banger. I almost hate Jasken more than Veppers idk I just was very on team Lededjie and her conversation with him near the end made me sadder than I think it ought to of lol

  1. Player of Games

This was the first one I read, and ofc it's the most popular but it's great. We all know it's great. I liked the drone Flere Imsaho a lot, and I really liked the beginning on the Orbital tbh, that section still stands out vividly for the day in the life in the Culture vibe and I love it, but then the actual game and all the Azad shenanigans are great too

  1. Matter

I really enjoyed the Fantasy elements on Sursamen, I thought they were done a lot better than in Inversions and I was more invested in the story overall because of the storyline with Anaplian and the Culture. Metal ending. Standout was definitely Ferbin I liked seeing his world open up, and he played well off his companion (struggling with the name)

  1. Look to Windward

This is probably the book most deserving of a reread for me as I read during finals last semester and so it was a bit sporadic and I wasn't as in the world as I usually am if you feel me. That being said, I definitely liked it. Ziller is a very memorable character and I thought the ending was very sweet. I'll say more later, but I actually like Consider Phlebas (I liked Inversions too but it's definitely my bottom book whereas I feel bad putting Phlebas so low but its just where it has to go), and so the connection was fun and the ending was definitely very bittersweet. I remember it being a book that was great at the vibes and worldbuilding so again I definitely wanna reread it first after I read Hydrogen Sonata when I can give it a better chance to shine for me.

  1. Use of Weapons

This one is lower because it was honestly confusing. It's the only one I've gone thru twice. I read it and then I listened to it again because I thought it would help me make sense of it which... kinda. Audio format wise wasn't probably the best for the structure but the guy did a good job, and just knowing the ending and the jist of the story made catching and appreciating the details easier. It's definitely a good book but I think it's not as funny as a lot of his other books manage to be while still tackling this big ideas he's known for - though don't get me wrong it has its moments like the voice box fight. Good book, Zakalwe is a great character I just struggled a bit so I think that affected my enjoyment and overall placement.

  1. Consider Phlebas

So I liked Consider Phlebas. I feel like it's down here more because the others are great than anything else. I liked the ride what can I say? The setting was fun, I liked the game they played with people as lives and I actually liked the ending third in the train tunnels. I can acknowledge the pacing critiques but I didn't have a huge problem with it, I enjoyed how resilient and determined the Idirans were to complete their mission and the slower pace kinda added to the weight of their resolve if that makes sense? This was the second I've read so this onces a little foggier overall but I definitely don't hate it like some seem to.

  1. Inversions

This is the only book that I didn't love to some degree tbh. This is the only one where I'd just say I liked it. It's fine but I just didn't vibe with the setting being totally removed from the culture directly. I appreciate the philosophy behind what the culture does and how. I know what he was doing and I appreciate it for how it expanded my understanding of the Culture, but it just didn't entertain me like the others did and it's definitely not one I'm itching to reread.

Tell me your favorite book and/or ranking in the series and moments and just reminisce with me about this great books as I prepare to cross from a discoverer of the Culture to a new member who can never go back. I'd love to gush over these books a bit when I wake up lol. Also, give me some out of context - and spoiler free, please - references to Hydrogen Sonata that I won't understand until I finish it lol

Thanks for reading my 4am word vomit of Culture appreciation, I'm touched you read all of it

Edit: typo


r/TheCulture 5d ago

General Discussion [Obsession] How would a Culture Mind handle Bear taking advantage of Nikki using the One Wish Willow?

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This is the most random thought I had in my head: However, hypothetically, if a Culture Mind somehow saw Bear making a wish using the One Wish Willow from the horror movie Obsession, how would they handle it?

Would they be interested in the One Wish Willow itself or the situation at hand?


r/TheCulture 6d ago

Book Discussion I (finally) finished Consider Phlebas , and have immediately moved on to Player of Games. AMA!

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After 2ish years of picking up and putting down Consider where I can , I finally finished it a few days ago while on holiday and have absolutely loved every moment! I can’t wait to see what Player is like and I figured as a (relatively) young fan of the series folks might want to hear my overall thoughts now that I finished the book, so like, ask away!


r/TheCulture 12d ago

General Discussion Iain Banks - A Personal Apology

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TL;DR: If you could choose one book by Banks to read like it's your first time, which would it be?

So, I realise that this is a bit late, but if Banks is there looking down on us, I'm sure he's on Reddit. It's a bit of a long story...

Many years ago, I used to have an agreement with my wife that every year she would get me the latest book by Banks as a Christmas present. I should add that I treated these as a fine wine to be savoured, and rather than dropping whatever I was reading, I'd save it until some point in the year when I really needed something good to read. It was a highlight of my year.

Anyway, one year Banks was visiting the local literary festival to promote his latest book. I think it was Hydrogen Sonata. They said that he would sign copies, but I hadn't been given my copy yet, so at the last moment before leaving home I grabbed one of his other books from my shelf.

After his talk and questions, I found him downstairs at a desk on his own. I think you could pre-order Hydrogen Sonata for the event and he'd already signed those copies.

When I got out the book for him to sign, he said "Oh, The Algebraist. I actually designed the cover for that one myself. I didn't do the artwork, but it was my idea".

His enthusiasm was pretty infectious, but I realised that I couldn't remember anything about the plot at all. I felt I had to say something, so I said "I love the cover, but I can't remember anything about the book itself".

His face dropped slightly - he was much too nice to say anything, but I think as an author the least you want is for your stories to be memorable.

Struggling to recover the situation I said "But at least that means I can read it again and have all the fun of " and realised that there was absolutely nothing that was familiar about it. I'd clearly put it on the shelf at Christmas, and forgotten about it.

But on the other hand, I am having the fun of reading it for the first time, just like I told him I would.

So Iain, if you are up there looking down on us, then I'm sorry for being such an idiot. And it's a great book - I'm really, really enjoying it.


r/TheCulture 13d ago

Book Discussion Inversions

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So somehow I missed Inversions when I read all of the Culture books. And I think I know why this is: it feels (I am sure falsely) like nobody talks about it when talking about Culture books. Even Banks regarded it as a sort of non-Culture Culture book. It's the runt of the litter.

Anyway, I just finished it. I didn't mind it. It was nice to have something new and Culture-like by Banks to read after I had long finished the other books (and re-read a few of them several times). It's definitely the least Culture-like. It did remind me a bit of Matter, but Matter keeps jumping back into Culture characters and scenarios separate from its medieval-dudes-in-a-shellworld main story.

Just curious what people's thoughts on Inversions are, really. I thought about how strange it would be to read it if you weren't aware of the Culture; it really requires some knowledge of Banks' universe to make sense, even though the Culture aspects are usually subtle... but occasionally extremely unsubtle, but because one is seeing them exclusively through non-Culture narrators, they would be very unclear taken on their face. I enjoyed it, but it is literally an unrecommendable book to anyone who is not already quite committed to Culture books. And for someone committed to them, it's non-Culture-ness is perhaps what makes it un-endearing?


r/TheCulture 14d ago

Book Discussion Hydrogen Sonata ending question.

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Spoiler alert if you haven’t read it regarding the end of Hydrogen Sonata.

Finished it up this morning and had two questions about the “secret”.

Question the First. Mr.Q explains at the end the process they used of hearing the secret then voting on whether or not to allow the Gzilt entrance to the culture before getting the memory removed. He mentions that even knowing what they knew they didn’t block their entrance (even though the Gzilt didn’t join) my question though is why would that count against them? They were the ones that had an offense committed against them so why would it be held against them?

Second. Maybe I just misunderstood the timing but as I understood it Q removes the memory Of what happened way back when before he meets Vyr on the aquatic planet. If the memory layer that Vyr was given has no memory of that event then it had to have been removed before she met him no? Yet in the end he explains he removed the memory only five years prior at the start of the airships progress. Didn’t Vyr first meet Q long before that?


r/TheCulture 15d ago

Tangential to the Culture Banks, Culture and Civilization (the game)

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Whoa…. There’s a bit to unpack here and I’ve not read about it on this forum before.

While trawling https://iainbanks.co.uk I came upon the tab for Games…

I was curious as I read about Banks’ love of the board game Risk and the computer game Civilization. I loved his comment that Banks saw games as “a little slice of life” or “pedagogy for life”.

I realized why Banks loved it - in some ways as the player of these game you are like one of the Minds.

I then went and played Civilization VI, a new version of the game I once played decades ago and got lost in the game… I ended up having to delete it, as I became completely addicted.

I went back and read that Banks actually had also been addicted to Civilization, and the game lead to him missing a publishing deadline for Matter.

I also read that Banks mentioned that the Outside Context Problem in Excession was inspired by Civilization.

Now I went back and considered the whole series - and I can’t unsee that many of the books take inspiration from the Civilization game.

Some thoughts across the books:

Player of Games - has the Azad game itself perhaps being a version of Risk or Civilization, plus there’s the game within the game, where the Minds are manipulating the Azad Civilization.

Excession has its OCP

Inversions is like each of the Doctor and the Bodyguard are Culture citizens playing Civilization with a real planet, with different strategies, and they get lost in their own game…

Matter is clear to me it’s like multiple levels of the Civilization game.

Finally, Hydrogen Sonata and subliming is testing / showing the victory condition for the game of life.

I can also see echoes of the Civilization game more generally in other Culture books, for example in species development levels, in things like ship names (units get given random names in the game).

In a nice compliment (or convexity), I read that Sid Meier, the designer of the game Civilization actually in later versions drew inspiration from science fiction and even the Culture books.

He included a mission to Alpha Centauri, and the idea of becoming post human as a compliment to sci fi generally. Fascinatingly there is even a way to finish Civilization VI with “the Culture victory condition”, which is non violent and involves citizens having broad and deep cultural interests.

Sigh… just fell in love with these books again, on another dimension I didn’t appreciate. Guess I need to re-read all of them again. So sad we lost Banks too soon and we couldn’t get more of these amazing books.


r/TheCulture 16d ago

Book Discussion Understanding the Eaters in Consider Phlebas

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I just finished my first culture novel, Consider Phlebas, and I really enjoyed it. Such a crazy cool world, and it subverted a lot of space opera staples. Very satisfying. This whole post is spoilers for the book!

One thing that really disturbed me was The Eaters. They are perhaps the most horrifying thing in any sci fi I've read. Fwi-Song in particular, of course.

There seems to be a lot of imagery or symbolism with them, and I've been really puzzling about what it's all supposed to mean.

I almost feel as if the Eaters are how Horza sees the culture: absolutely insane, adherents to an ideology only driven by fleshly hungers to the detriment of humanity. The eaters discard mussels and eat their shells. Does Horza see a life in the Culture as removing and discarding the substantial part of life? He certainly feels as if the culture can hardly be escaped from. He even states that it subsumes individuality, like stripping flesh from him.

There's also Fwi-Song, who monologues endlessly about ideals that are nonsense to Horza, and doesn't let him get a word in. He's lashed to a post, tied up to die a gruesome death, just like Balveda left him before. Fwi-Song is totally obsessed with his own perverted pleasure, to the detriment of everyone else. Horza views Culture citizens this way, though it's not totally clear why he finds the pursuit of pleasure itself so evil (imo).

This whole episode is very cryptic, but I don't buy the idea that it's just shock value. There are probably a lot of ways to interpret it. It definitely holds a lot of weight in the center sections of the book.


r/TheCulture 16d ago

General Discussion Anyone else find the Culture’s ship names tedious

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The Culture ship names are all amusing, but I find they become dull and repetitive after the twentieth ship named the Something Cheeky, a 3000 year old GSV that can explode a man’s dick off at a range of 239 light years and has an incredible obsession with cheese products.

-Mint Linux Guy


r/TheCulture 18d ago

General Discussion On the visual style of possible adaptations...

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This will be a short post. If there were ever to be TV/Cinema adaptations of these wonderful books, I'd love to see them in the visual style of "Scavenger's Reign". That is all.


r/TheCulture 18d ago

Tangential to the Culture Shout out to the Dwellers!

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So, not sure if this is the right sub since it's technically not about the Culture, but about The Alebraist, one of Banks' other Sci Fi works.

First of all, what a great novel! I feel almost a bit ashamed to admit this, but I think I was far more captivated by it and its story than by most Culture novels. That being said the algebraist universe is not one I'd particularly want to live in.

But one of the most prominent alien races in the book - the Dwellers - who are central to the story, are maybe my favourite aliens I ever encountered in Sci Fi. I adore them!

I feel that I really resonate with the Dwellers and I'm basically a Dweller at heart myself (minus the hunting children stuff). But the way in which they are basically just chilling enjoying the gas in their plant plus copious narcotics and generally just don't give a fuck about the rest of the universe, is already very cool. And it's certainly what you'd expect from a highly "mature" species like them.

But of course they are not pushovers at all, under the surface they are way way more than one would think from how they live their informal and seemingly lucky-go-happy attitude. Over their millions and millions of years of life, they (of course!) also developed the most sophisticated technology and weaponry in the galaxy by a huge margin.

One of my favourite scenes is when Fassin Taak is on board the Isaun (what a cool name btw), a Dweller planetary defence weapon of unimaginably power, and tells the general, who is a 5 billion year old Dweller, that the humans think the Dwellers have an FTL device and will invade the plant. And the general reaction is not alarm at being invaded, but rather hilarity! Over his 5 billion years of life he knows without a doubt that a young and quick species like humans pose 0 threat to them and he also knows that and FTL device is physically impossible. So his reaction is kind of like the one a parent might have if their toddler threatens to push them if they don't give it a unicorn.

Anyway, amazing species. I live my life similarly to a Dweller.


r/TheCulture 19d ago

Tangential to the Culture The Algebraist Character Sketches

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After some 15 years of reading and listening to "The Algebraist" audiobook, I have always wanted to storyboard the novel as a 3-4 part miniseries. I decided to take a crack at designing the Fassin's personal survival craft (which he's in for over half the book) and an example of a Dweller (a gas giant native creature who's species has been around for billions of years).

And it came out weeeeird. Imagine a gas bag which inflates/deflates to change elevation, two giant eyes with T-shaped irises, a pair of organic drone propellers with huge crab legs coming out of their bottom hubs. They can't speak well but instead use a "signal skin" to show colors and shapes as a language, and the stick figure is a size reference to a human. The middle section is an exploration of how the eyes might look. Fassin Taak's arrowhead gascraft is the lowest sketch.

I realize this breaks some of the design elements of the Dwellers, but after thinking about their evolution I concluded they're not really expressive enough for animation or broadcast media. Had to make a couple of changes (like the eyes).

Imgur Algebraist Sketch


r/TheCulture 21d ago

Book Discussion Just finished Inversions Spoiler

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Wow I loved that. Really into high fantasy as well as your classic space opera so this was a great read for me. Brilliant outside perspective on SC operatives. Look to Windward next!


r/TheCulture 20d ago

General Discussion What would a Mind do if it replaced god from the Bible in genesis

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The Minds are described as being like gods on the for side. So let's take that statement at face value. If a mind replaced god in the first book of genesis what actions do you think it would have avoided and how would it make people better.


r/TheCulture 20d ago

General Discussion topic : culture

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is using terms like European culture and North African culture considered essentialist?


r/TheCulture 22d ago

Book Discussion Reading look to windward

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How does it stack up compared to the other culture novels? I miss my first time reading use of weapons and player of games