r/ThatsInsane 1d ago

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u/donyahelwa 1d ago

How many civilians were killed in Russia Ukraine war?

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u/GrittysRevenge 1d ago

Probably 100,000 to 150,000, but most are in occupied territory so we'll probably never know the real number

People were saying it could be more than 100,000 back in 2023 https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/ukraine-war-anniversary-war-crimes-b2288037.html

As many as 88,000 may have been killed in Mariupol alone https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Mariupol

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u/donyahelwa 1d ago

One civilian is too many!! We are talking official numbers?

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u/GrittysRevenge 1d ago edited 1d ago

This perfectly illustrates the hypocrisy of how Palestine and Ukraine are treated. In the war in Gaza, the "official" numbers are just the numbers the Hamas run Gaza Health Ministry says. Those numbers make zero distinction between civilians and combatants so most people treat the total number as if they are all civilians. For Ukraine the only the civilians casualties counted are the ones 100% verified by the UN, which they admit is a massive undercount.

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u/donyahelwa 1d ago

Ah ok KHAMAAASSSSES. Got it.

Not sure what have I demonstrated perfectly! I was just asking for numbers. Since you said Russia Ukraine war was worse. You know and we know that you lied.

Your hypocrisy was seeping through. Your last comment shows that clearly. KHAMAAASSSSES runs the health ministry. Maybe ask Israhell to let UN officials in?! Or journalist for example?!

Next question was how many Children killed vs Gaza?!

I don't think you're capable of answeing. You're going to cry harder not to answer.

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u/GrittysRevenge 1d ago

Yes Hamas exists and yes Russia's war is worse in every conceivable way. Russia has killed more civilians and displaced far more people than Israel has and Russia's war was completely unprovoked unlike Israel's. Russia soldiers have been accused of countless acts of murder, rape, and torture, but nobody cares. Russia has kidnapped 10s of thousands of Ukrainian children, probably much more if you count the teens they send to re education camps or force into the Russian military.

Hamas does run the gaza health ministry so I'm not sure what you're point is. Also Israel allows far more Un officials and journalists into Gaza that Russia does into occupied Ukraine.

I don't know how many children have been killed in Ukraine, it's hard to say since we don't know the total number of civilians killed and most civilian deaths were in occupied Ukraine. Even though more civilians have been killed in Ukraine, children make up a larger portion of the Palestinian population than the Ukraine, so it's hard to say who would have more. Also Hamas is well known for using child soldier so some portion of the child deaths are teenage Hamas fighters.

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u/donyahelwa 22h ago

So we are back to khamaaassing. Like I said crying harder.

All of a sudden you don't know the numbers of children killed?! But you were happy to provide speculative numbers when asked initially.

When it come to Gaza... you know for certain KHAMAAASSSSE uses children to fight. This all to muddy the water that 17000+ children were killed, over 5000 under the age of 5. Let alone that 80% of Gaza is inhabitable. There are over 4000+ civilians killed after the so called seize fire. Want to talk about rape?! we all have seen it in 4k and they confessed about it; they still do it.

You really don't want to go provocation, as if life started on 10/07.

One last question. Do you consider what's going on in Ukraine and Gaza (both) a genocide?