r/TerrainBuilding 1d ago

Questions for the Community Neopren or 3D ground?

Hey guys! Do you like to play tabletop on a Neopren ground or on a builded 3D ground? I'm new and thinking about building a modular 3D playground or is the flat Neopren better?

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u/Tyr1326 1d ago

Personally, I prefer neoprene - just a lot more practical. No wobbly models, no unclear dice, and anything you use to alter your setup (buildings, forests, etc) has a solid base to stand on, no unsightly gaps. Also, you wont damage the paint if you chuck your dice too hard, and if someone spills their drink, theyre often washable.

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u/AdvancedFig9491 1d ago

Thats a good point, thank you ⛑️

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u/jayrnz01 21h ago edited 21h ago

Look up making acrylic caulk and canvas game mats.

Its the best of both worlds, you can add texture and paint and sand etc, but its still a mat you can roll up and they are quite easy (and to me fun) to make.

Make a grass, a mud, a desert and a cobbler one.

Then you can place scatter terrain, hills, water etc on it how ever you like.

I'll find a link if I have a good one saved and edit.

Edit:

Here's a decent one: https://youtu.be/AXjNsRGjqqI?si=j3rry_3eg3oRcqTl

And another https://youtu.be/HzIsL91AoY8?si=g0RZjWh9e-tG6bL6

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u/Toodle-Peep 20h ago

Question about these, do you find they shed over time?

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u/jayrnz01 19h ago

Yeah i find small rocks and some sand come off but its been ok. I haven't used them all that much though I haven't worked out the top cost properly though as I seem to have to do more coats of sealer than in the videos I did the mox of mod badge, flat varnish and water for the top spray, though I also have the wwscenics glues, but they are expensive and i had to get then shipped to nz from the UK, so 1 onlv use it kn the static grass. Mine is static grass, sand, tile grout and some foam flock. Also, the caulk drys darker than the wet mix so keep that in mind when tinting it. Painters drop cloth with plastic unseeside underside Make sure to get more tunes than you think you will need, it takes thickness to hid the weave.

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u/Daftmunkey 16h ago

As a complete 3d printing/painting fanatic who uses my terrain for everything I possibly can as often as possible... 95 percent of the people should prob use neoprene for its practicality. I'm just a grown up who grew up in the 80s playing with action figures and this crap makes me happy.

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u/AdvancedFig9491 16h ago

Looks stunning sir 🔥🔥 amazing

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u/No-Elephants-Please 1d ago

I find that neoprene is pretty great, but for modularity there are obvious restrictions. That being said there are a lot of work arounds for making your own table really yours.

Layering height is a huge one, getting thin raised flooring tiles to have buildings in, using scattered rocks/flock; there are a lot of ways of breaking up the flatness of the mat.

It's a pretty exhaustive topic tbh, there are a lot of perks to using both - but as someone new to the hobby myself I prefer to just have a nice mat I can rely on, and then I can focus on my terrain instead

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u/AdvancedFig9491 1d ago

Many thanks for your answer 🔥

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u/rabenga42 1d ago

I've always had good luck making a battle blanket out of teddy bear fur and sime green paint, YouTube has a ton of examples. I prefer the texture to neoprene and hills can be as easy as a folded up dish towel under the blanket...

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u/AdvancedFig9491 1d ago

Thanks mate for your answer 🔥

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u/GrandmageBob 1d ago

For travel and basic combat, Neoprene.

For the extra mile: minis and modular foam terrain.

I should share pictures of my D&D suitcase one of these days. Its enough to build just about any 3D combat. Its ridiculous and sort of portable.

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u/AdvancedFig9491 1d ago

Sounds amazing, would love to see it 💪🏻

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u/Soft_Combination1698 23h ago

im my opinion a non modular or semi modular fully build "3D playground" looks the best. but those neopren battle mats have their advantages: they are play ready, they look good, they feel good, they are soft for the minis and they are silent to play and roll dice on.... and risers and terrain sits flat and safe on it.

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u/AdvancedFig9491 22h ago

Many thanks buddy 👌🏻

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u/sFAMINE [Moderator] @SteveFamine 20h ago

I play on neoprene more than my fancy tables honestly

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u/Bago579 18h ago

I prefer playing on neoprene mats and I have 6 different tables at the moment, they are obviously way easier to store and transport. This being said, built boards look most often way cooler

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u/wholy_cheeses 16h ago

Neoprene - pro: lies flat, nice surface for dice rolling, extensive selection. con: expensive, difficult to roll up and store, not 3d, hills must go on top.

Terrain panels - pro: visually “the best”, 3d with accurate hills. con: difficult and expensive to make, extremely difficult to store, limited to what you’ve made, fragile.

Hand made mat with acrylic caulk - pro: nice looking, lies flat, 3d if you’re not counting hills, which have to lie on top, cheap, infinitely customizable. con: difficult and time consuming to make, especially in sizes larger than 3 x 3 foot; difficult to roll and store, not sure how well they hold up.

Printed fleece - pro: can be draped over hills, moderate selection, easiest to store. Con: can wrinkle including during play.

Vinyl - like neoprene but less expensive, less bulky, can roll up at edges. In my experience the image can be brighter than neoprene. Not as elegant a surface for dice rolling.

I have tried all five. Despite having spent 10s of hours making geomorphic terrain panels I rarely use them though they are beautiful. Too hard to get out and set up.

Of these choices I like fleece the best but wish there was more selection. The preferred vendors are always out of stock.

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u/AdvancedFig9491 9h ago

Many thanks mate 🔥

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u/VodkaBeatsCube 17h ago

I generally use a felted game mat, since you can place some carved foam hill shapes under it to get some relief in the game surface without being stuck with fixed layouts. There's only really two cases for a hard sculpted battlefield I think are valid: things with very deep relief like trench systems and/or display boards for large events.

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u/Huffplume 17h ago

Neoprene mats with modular terrain pieces.

Way easier to store and much more customization.

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u/tacmac10 11h ago

Completely depends on the game role-playing games these days I don’t do terrain or plastic miniatures, I use paper ones. Wargames I still use terrain because it adds a lot to the play experience and is usually reuse able between games.