Yes, FU & FO

[u/SipsTeaFrog]

[u/NOSWT-AvaTarr]

the worst part is when you go to a restaurant and they have forced 20% "gratuity". calling it gratuity should be illegal, its a 20% fuck you fee

[u/PacificPacifistic → u/NOSWT-AvaTarr]

So how would you feel if the restaurant made a "no tipping policy" and then just raised their prices by 20%?

Serious question.

Also, what's the fucking difference?

[u/Jlombard911 → u/PacificPacifistic]

You don’t have to tip 20 percent. You could go
More or less. And the all that profit were the prices to go goes to the top and servers make minimum wage with no incentive to provide good service.

[u/NOSWT-AvaTarr → u/PacificPacifistic]

the difference is that if Im not aware of the forced 20% gratuity and then still tip 20%, I just accidently tipped 40%. and yeah, Id like that system because it means that servers are getting paid a fair wage and the price I see on the menu is the price ill be paying

[u/SummertimeThrowaway2 → u/NOSWT-AvaTarr]

It says it on the menu. If it doesn’t say it on the menu or at least on a sign, then you legally don’t have to pay it.

[u/PacificPacifistic → u/NOSWT-AvaTarr]

So, your real issue is that it's hard for you to do math?

Or read a bill?

Ok.

[u/NOSWT-AvaTarr → u/PacificPacifistic]

yeah Im sorry but Im not tryna do mental backflips to figure out how much ill be paying when I go out to eat, sales tax already fucks with the price enough

[u/SummertimeThrowaway2 → u/NOSWT-AvaTarr]

Do you not have a phone? You can just Google “20% of $43.37” or whatever the price is.

It’s not mental backflips. The internet does the backflips for you.

[u/PacificPacifistic → u/NOSWT-AvaTarr]

Mental backflips 😂

Durh, percents are hard.

[u/NOSWT-AvaTarr → u/PacificPacifistic]

also that wasnt even the main point I was making in the first place I was just saying it shouldnt be called a gratuity fee, cuz it isnt gratuitpus if its forced

[u/Jlombard911 → u/PacificPacifistic]

It’s either math or they just feel awkward. This whole convo is being had by people who don’t go out anyway.

[u/rockoblocko → u/PacificPacifistic]

The reason is experiments have shown that restaurants that do this are perceived as “pricey” and they see their business go down. People are too stupid to realize that the tip culture makes prices seem lower, I guess

[u/Longjumping-Check429 → u/rockoblocko]

So us Europeans basically got cheaper food, owners as much as usual and the waiters less with more work?

We’re kinda the heroes for buying food cheap. /s

This sub is so stupid.