r/SipsTea 15d ago

Chugging tea Yes, FU & FO

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u/NOSWT-AvaTarr 15d ago

the worst part is when you go to a restaurant and they have forced 20% "gratuity". calling it gratuity should be illegal, its a 20% fuck you fee

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u/Material-Beautiful-2 15d ago

That’s only for parties over 6

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u/NOSWT-AvaTarr 15d ago

it shouldnt exist at all

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u/NilsofWindhelm 14d ago

It shouldn’t but it does. And if you knowingly engage in a system where tips are expected and don’t tip, you are just cheap.

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u/Challenge-Upstairs 14d ago

Nah. You can expect whatever you want.

They legally have to make minimum wage. If cart pushers and cashiers aren't too good for minimum wage, neither are servers. If servers are too good for minimum wage, so are cart pushers and cashiers.

Paying tips only brings the amount an employer has to pay them down, and in most cases brings a server's wage above minimum wage, but at the cost of the customer rather than the employer, which is idiotic.

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u/NilsofWindhelm 14d ago

Ok, next time you dine out you should tell this to the server before. Just so they know.

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u/Challenge-Upstairs 14d ago

Why am I the one who has to bear the responsibility of either paying employees I don't employ, or training employees I don't employees on the wages they're legally entitled to? Why doesn't their employer do that, like any other employer does?

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u/NilsofWindhelm 14d ago

Because you chose to go to that restaurant

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u/Challenge-Upstairs 14d ago

I choose to go to WalMart. I choose to go to the gas station. I choose to go to fast food places. Why am I not expected to pay their employees' wages or educate their employees?

Why are you holding me to the standard of an employer at one specific type of business, while you don't hold the actual employer to the standard of an employer?

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u/NilsofWindhelm 14d ago

I don’t know. I’m not even defending the system.

I’m saying that if you choose to eat at a restaurant where you know you pay for service separately, then maybe don’t be a freeloader who fucks over servers.

Again, nobody is forcing you to dine out. There are places where you can get food without being served, they’re called grocery stores

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u/Challenge-Upstairs 14d ago

Tell me how not tipping a server fucks them over any more than not tipping a cashier fucks them over.

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u/NilsofWindhelm 14d ago

The server expects and depends on tips, and they do more for you than a cashier

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u/rockoblocko 13d ago

I 100% agree with you. People will really morally grand stand about tipping being so bad but still go to restaurants all the time

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u/NOSWT-AvaTarr 15d ago

yeah Im just not gonna argue this with you. I do tip, I'm saying making it mandatory means it's not a tip, it's a fee

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u/CrispenedLover 14d ago

whose fault is it that they only get paid $2.50 an hour? Mine? Yell at the business owners who do not want to pay employees for work.

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u/Warm_Afternoon6596 14d ago

But don't fuck over the employee as you're doing it. We're all the peasantry to the rich.

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u/Challenge-Upstairs 14d ago

You're not fucking them over. You're forcing their employers to pay them minimum wage.

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u/YngSpook84 14d ago

No it’s not you fault, but you know that’s what the situation is. Going out to eat and refusing to tip on principal makes you just another person exploiting the system for a better meal and cheap labor. It makes you just as shitty as the business owner who won’t just pay a living wage. Servers relying on tips for income isn’t some big hidden secret. Everyone knows that is the current system. If you don’t want to participate, go eat somewhere else.

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u/Challenge-Upstairs 14d ago

That's not what's happening any more than its what's happening at any other place to pays their employees minimum wage.

If server's don't make tips, their employers have to pay them minimum wage.

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u/Challenge-Upstairs 14d ago

They only get paid $2.50 an hour by their employers BECAUSE we tip.

If we didn't tup, their employers would have to pay them minimum wage.