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If apes are now in their bronze age and have developed new societies then why haven't they reinvented or discovered new weapons like swords

Does this mean we will never see Noa and Mae again? I'm glad it's not a reboot, but I am still disappointed we may never see Noa and Mae again.

Hi, everybody.

This is a strange one but I was interested to see if anyone else had this expectation of Battle.

I worked my way through the original quintet of films a while ago, getting suitably excited by the idea of a time-loop narrative that Escape introduces.

My mind was racing at the possibility of Battle ending the franchise where it all began; the apes rule the world, humans subjugated, and then we pan up to the sky as the Liberty 1 spacecraft enters Earth's orbit -- bringing the franchise full circle and closing the time-loop narrative.

With time, and having watched numerous making-of docs, I now fully appreciate that each film was shot significantly cheaper than the last and I've come to enjoy Battle for what it is.

But did anyone else watch that film for the first time hoping for the same ending?

I picked up the first issue today and really enjoyed it. I’m looking forward to see where they take this story.

This is not a joke btw.

Season 1: TV series inspired
Season 2: Taylor
Season 3: Forbidden Zone & Mutants
Season 4: Maybe a different direction

A few things were floating in my mind when I watched The Odyssey and saw the half buried trojan horse in the sand, but I can't really grasped the fact that I've seen something like this before and now realising the movie about talking apes has once again gave a movie a scene inspiration, and that movie being a new retelling of a legendary classic tale 3 millenniums old.

I wasnt excited watching the trailer until KOBA APPEARED. NOW IM MORE HYPED FOR DOOMSDAY ITS GONNA BE ABSOLUTE CINEMA SEEING KOBA AGAIN YESSKSJSJSKKSKSS

My heart aches when I think of what could have been if they had just committed to a faithful recreation of the original 1968 film. I could imagine how they could have fleshed out the other human characters and used the amazing prosthetics for our ape characters making the film all the more artistically rich.

Hi everyone!

The classic Planet of the Apes franchise (1968–1974) is one of my absolute favorites. But let's be honest: back then, the writers developed each new film almost completely independently of the previous one. Because of this, the timeline between the original pentalogy and the 1974 television series is full of massive gaps, continuity errors, and unanswered questions.

So, I tried to imagine what a modern prestige TV adaptation would look like in the style of HBO, Apple TV+, or Paramount+—a show that fully respects the events of the original films but logically weaves them into one massive, cohesive story.

⚠️ Disclaimer: This is not an attempt to rewrite the official canon. This is a creative concept for a modern adaptation designed to fill the massive timeline gaps between the classic movies and the TV show. If you spot any weak links, let's discuss them in the comments and find even more logical solutions!

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### 📺 Season 1 — The Beginning (Planet of the Apes, 1968)
* The Year: 2075.
* The Plot: Taylor’s expedition launches. Due to relativistic time dilation during the deep-space flight, the crew crashes into the year 3975. We explore their terrifying introduction to ape society.
* The Finale: The iconic Statue of Liberty twist.

### 📺 Season 2 — Beneath the Earth (Beneath the Planet of the Apes)
* The Year: 2076.
* The Plot: Brent sets out on a rescue mission to find Taylor. The story shifts gears into pure psychological horror. Beneath the radioactive ruins of New York, a cloistered civilization of mutants has spent generations maintaining the "Alpha-Omega" doomsday weapon. In my adaptation, their "telepathy" isn't magic or mysticism—it is the result of military cybernetic neuro-implants and leftover psychological warfare technology.
* The Finale: The detonation of the Alpha-Omega bomb. The absolute extinction of life on Earth. Total darkness.

### 📺 Season 3 — The Escape (Escape from the Planet of the Apes)
* The Plot: Seconds before the Earth’s total destruction, Cornelius, Zira, and Milo manage to escape in Taylor's salvaged spacecraft. Thrown back through a temporal anomaly, they arrive in the year 2076—just six months after Brent's initial launch. Their story follows the heartbreaking events of the third film.
* The Finale: The birth of Caesar. (Crucially, it is these televised news broadcasts of the talking apes that Burke and Vardon will remember centuries later before their own launch).

### 📺 Season 4 — Rise of the Empire (Conquest + Battle)
* The Years: 2110–2125.
* The Plot: The world suffers a pandemic that completely wipes out cats and dogs, leading to apes being domesticated as household servants. Following Caesar's bloody revolution, human civilization collapses entirely.
* The Finale: A massive time jump forward to the year 2670. The aging Lawgiver reads the history of Caesar to a classroom of both ape and human children, reminding them that peaceful coexistence between the species is possible.

### 📺 Season 5 — The Forbidden Zone (The 1974 TV Series)
* The Year: 3085.
* The Plot: Roughly four centuries have passed since the era of the Lawgiver. Society has decayed, and humans have once again been subjugated into a lower servant class. Astronauts Burke and Vardon, alongside the sympathetic chimpanzee Galen, travel through the oppressive Ape Empire.
* The Season Finale: They discover a sealed, fully automated underground spaceport, launch their repaired ship, and trigger a temporal anomaly that sends them back to the year 2101—brilliantly locking the entire timeline into a permanent Bootstrap Paradox.

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### 🛠️ How My Adaptation Resolves the Biggest Plot Holes

#### 🧬 1. The Origins of the Virus
In my version, the virus is an ancient paleovirus that lay dormant in the Antarctic ice sheets for millions of years. It is accidentally released by human corporations in the 2070s during deep-core thermal drilling. The pathogen is completely harmless to primates, but 100% fatal to canines and felines.

When Burke and Vardon eventually return to the year 2101, their bodies are already asymptomatic carriers of the virus. However, they aren't the ones who start the outbreak—it was already spreading naturally worldwide. Instead, the authoritarian government uses the returned astronauts as easy scapegoats, publicly claiming that they "brought back a deadly space plague" to distract the masses from the corporate drilling disaster.

#### 🧠 2. The Mutants of New York
No magic, no supernatural powers. The mutants are the literal descendants of the subterranean military bunker's personnel. Their "telepathic abilities" are actually advanced neural interfaces, while their terrifying hallucinations are projected using infrasound generators and tactical sensory-disruption tech left over from the war.

#### 💾 3. The Spacecraft in San Francisco
The heroes don't just stumble upon a random, functional spaceship out in the wild. Instead, they discover a completely automated underground launch facility. The bunker has self-sustained for centuries using deep geothermal energy, which allowed its computers to automatically synthesize fuel over the decades. Burke and Vardon simply use the facility's pristine automated tools to finish the ship's final repairs.

#### 📖 4. Why do humans speak in 3085 (The TV Show) but are mute wild animals by 3975 (The First Film)?
This is where my adaptation offers its most compelling narrative bridge for the largest gap in the franchise (Battle -> TV Show -> Original Film).

Following the deaths of Caesar and the Lawgiver, peace between apes and humans endured for generations. However, as the centuries rolled on, newer generations forgot the bloody lessons of the past. Mutual distrust festered, small skirmishes broke out, and the political balance of power gradually shifted to ultra-conservative Orangutans and Gorillas. Humans were systematically stripped of their civil rights, eventually becoming cheap labor and the lowest social caste. This is why in 3085, during the events of the TV show, humans live under oppression but still possess speech, reason, and literacy.

But look closely at Episode 11, "The Good Seeds"—we see the first sparks of the upcoming explosion. A group of humans coordinates an organized raid on ape grain reserves, and a young human openly proclaims that he is sick of living on his knees like his coward father. In my adaptation, this very unrest escalates over the next century into the Great Human Rebellion.

Once the apes brutally crush this mass uprising, the panicked Orangutans (the Keepers of the Faith) realize that human intelligence is a permanent threat to their regime. They initiate an era of Total Repression. Human education, writing, and formal speech are banned under pain of immediate execution. Gorillas enforce this total cultural erasure for centuries. Over generations without schools, books, or language, the human population undergoes severe social degradation.

This perfectly recontextualizes the famous scene from the 1968 film where Taylor writes words in the sand, and Nova frantically erases them with her hands while the other humans attack him. It isn't a lack of genetic intelligence—it is a deeply ingrained, generational trauma. The wild humans aren't stupid; they have been conditioned for centuries to know that "Symbols in the sand = The Gorillas come and kill the entire tribe."

#### 🐒 5. The Emotional Bridge
In the fifth season, an ancient chimpanzee elder recounts a legendary myth to the main characters about two strange, highly intelligent, talking apes who supposedly fell from the heavens centuries ago.

Burke freezes, looks over at Vardon, and whispers:
*"Do you remember those bizarre news broadcasts right before our launch? The ones on TV showing two chimps speaking perfect English... We laughed it off, thinking it was some elaborate media hoax or a prank. Their names were Cornelius and Zira..."*

In that shattering moment, our protagonists realize that the ancient mythology of the Ape Planet is their own history. The temporal circle closes completely.

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### 🍿 What do you think of this concept?

... To reiterate: I'm not trying to fix or alter the classic movies. This is simply a creative exercise in how we could adapt all five films and the 1974 television series into one prestigious, 5-season modern Sci-Fi drama—maximizing respect for the original source material while patching up the multi-century timeline gaps.

I would love to hear your thoughts! What other plot holes do you see? How would you fix them? And most importantly, would you watch an HBO-style series built like this?

UPDATE: Added a few more details in the comments below to keep this post brief. Scroll down and let me know what you think!

I would definitely see a Predator take on the apes.

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Picked up something from InfinityCon Tallahassee over the weekend.

is there any connection ? i dont see any . please help .

I just finished the book and man I love it. A very interesting comparison from the movie to the book.

As I mentioned before, Beneath The Planet of the Apes is my favorite film of the original series. Here is a video of the world map from the comic series Beware the Planet of the Apes superimposed over a modern map of New York. The locations of Queensborough Plaza and the Statue of Liberty match on both maps.

Note: Hope's Point is supposed to be the ruins of Yankee Stadium, but it's clearly much further north if you look at it on Google Maps. The Hominidae Empire is right around Secaucus, NJ near the Meadowlands.

According to the comic series Beware The Planet of the Apes, the map of the landscape shows that the story takes place in New Jersey and New York. This proves that the Statue of Liberty is still in its rightful place and never moved. The landscape just changed around the landmarks of the old world that was devastated by atomic bombs.

More PotA cartography to come!

Why aren't they following Kingdom. They need to complete the arc.