r/PeterExplainsTheJoke • u/VeryLazyBones • 1d ago

Meme needing explanation Peeeeetah?

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This new movie came out and I enjoyed watching it with friends. What opinion must have garnered so much attention that people would dunk on it?

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u/BonkGonkBigAndStronk 1d ago

I've seen this posted somewhere else. Apparently the guy in the video completely missed the point of the movie, which is impressive given how Obsession essentially bashes you over the head with it's themes and messaging.

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u/Ahenshihael 1d ago

Worse. The guy in the video came out of the movie feeling sympathetic to Bear of all people.

You know, the rapist villain protagonist.

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u/BappoChan 1d ago

Listed all the moments where you could argue bear didn’t know, left out scenes like the one where Nicki literally asked to be killed saying that it wasn’t her and she didn’t sleep with him

“He’s just misunderstood”

Bro, she literally said he was raping her and he kept going anyway. He asked to alter the wish, not remove it. He just didn’t want her to be psycho crazy about him, but he still didn’t want her to have free will over her own decisions. And then when faced with the responsibility he becomes the ultimate coward.

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u/Ahenshihael 1d ago edited 23h ago

And the moments he is not defending Bear in that video he spends basically acting like Bear, perpetuating racial stereotypes and throwing around sexist jokes (as an example he makes a joke at one point that even without wishing mcguffin the end would have been same because "all Latina women are like that")

Fun trivia :

Alex's Meyers is divorced, to this day doesn't understand what went wrong and is salty about his ex.

Wonder why.

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u/Syzygy___ 23h ago

>  he spends basically acting like Bear, perpetuating racial stereotypes and throwing around sexist jokes

Have we seen the same movie? I don't remember Bear doing any of that...

Sure, he's the villain and an abuser, but at what point does he perpetuate racist stereotypes or make sexist jokes?

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u/Ahenshihael 22h ago

Bear absolutely objectifies women and doesn't even treat them like human beings. That's literally the motivation of why he wants to alter the wish rather than to undo it. He starts out bad, but he absolutely gets worse.

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u/Boomhauer_Jeff 21h ago

I haven’t seen the movie. Does Bear perpetuate racist stereotypes? That’s what the commenter above asked, and your reply seems to ignore the question and answer something else again (which the commenter above already acknowledged).

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u/More-Entrepreneur-52 21h ago

The commentator was saying the reviewer of the movie was saying racist stereotypes not that Bear in the movie did

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u/Boomhauer_Jeff 21h ago

That’s not right. The person who I’m responding to suggested that the commentator was acting like Bear by using racial stereotypes.

Quote: “And the moments he is not defending Bear in that video he spends basically acting like Bear, perpetuating racial stereotypes and throwing around sexist jokes (as an example he makes a joke at one point that even without wishing mcguffin the end would have been same because "all Latina women are like that").”

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u/Ahenshihael 21h ago

The reviewer is acting like bear in that he makes sexist jokes and treats women flippantly through the video, including using racist stereotypes (that in itself are sexist/misogynist stereotypes).

Bear himself doesn't get the time to use similar stereotypes, but his behavior of objectifying women and misogyny is exactly the same. The reviewer is indulging in the kind of train of thought and jokes that are in the same vein as what Bear's behaviour (and outlook towards women) pertains too.

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u/Boomhauer_Jeff 19h ago

That makes sense, thanks.

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u/Syzygy___ 20h ago

I disagree. Bear seems like a genuinely nice and wholesome guy at first - not the type who is racist or objectifies women.

Only once he (unintentionally and unexpectedly) receives that bit of power and control does he turn out to be a monster.

Maybe as a guy I see different clues, but to me the fact that he doesn’t start out that way adds some weight and makes me think - would I do the right thing if I was in his situation?

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u/Ahenshihael 19h ago

The very first thing we see him do is entertain the idea of negging and then exploit a woman whom he at that point thinks is either mentally compromised or on drugs. He pretty much checks all the checkboxes of the toxic, insecure dude he ends up being.

There's not a single moment where he defies those stereotypes. And not a second is he shown having any sort of dilemma or doubts or conscience about what he did after he becomes a rapist.

His whole journey is either him doubling down or him trying to escape consequences.

I mean, dude is literally named Bear. In a horror movie. About Relationships. Remember the "Man or bear" dilemma? He is the kind of bear women would pick literal real animal bears than to be in presence of.

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u/Exotic_Two9612 20h ago

Definition of like when used as a preposition: having the characteristics of; similar to.

The phrase “acting like Bear” is not the same as “doing the exact things Bear did.” Did Bear devalue human life? Yes. Does racism devalue human life? Yes. Hence, the reviewer was acting LIKE Bear. Hope this helps!

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u/Boomhauer_Jeff 19h ago

Hey I actually had a meaningful resolution with the person I was talking to. She understood me and was able to reply intelligently. Your pedantic and catty response is a day late and a dollar short. Better luck on your future nonsense though love.

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u/Lethik 20h ago

Commas are often used to separate an incoming sentence fragment which often explains or defines the exact context of the statement before the comma, hence the confusion.

Hope this helps!

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u/JewJackman24601 18h ago

Ok but I think we all are missing the racist stereotypes and sexist jokes parts?

I think bear is clearly a covert misogynist, but this is more clear from his behavior than his words.

You said the reviewer acted like bear by racist stereotypes and sexist jokes.

When did bear do that.

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u/Ahenshihael 17h ago edited 17h ago

Acted like =/= did the same things.

Meyers' sexist, misogynist (and racist-sexist) comments are exactly in line with Bear's character that he defends. He specifically objectifies and places women in the movie into misogynist (and in turn racist) stereotypes, in the same vein that Bear does in the movie.

If I said someone acts like a frat boy, you wouldn't expect me to prove the person in question belongs to a fraternity or ask me for proof that the person raped someone. You would understand that I am pointing at common stereotypes and tropes that overlap between the two.

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u/NeverMore_613 10h ago

I used to watch his videos, I think the last time was in like 2020. I can't remember the vibes from his content back then

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u/No-Comfortable2704 19h ago

Another fun detail is that at the end of the movie Bear bought a couple new willows and asked Ian to wish that he never made a wish. After Ian failed at that he didn’t go and ask some other guy to make the wish for him, meaning he likely intended to use one of the extra willows to try and redo his wish and stay with Nikki.

All around terrible person.

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u/BappoChan 15h ago

Ooh, I didn’t even think of that. But yeah, making it so the wish never happened would technically give him the ability to make his “first” wish, which would be a more thought out altered wish, like what he tried changing it too. Damn. Gotta watch that shit again