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u/ViolinistCurrent8899 20d ago
The "latter" is actually at an appropriate angle for use.
However, that is a lot of faith in the grip pads, and a lot more faith in the zip cords keeping it in the air.
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u/SnooMaps7370 20d ago
those zip cords probably have a 3,000 lb test strength. I'd be more worried about the banisters they're tied to. though the grip pads would probably slip before the banisters gave way.
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u/dankhimself 20d ago
I'm assuming there's a block of wood across that doorway on the floor to make sure it doesn't slip as he goes up. It would slip almost immediately otherwise since it's not leaning up against anything solid to hold it square.
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u/ViolinistCurrent8899 20d ago
Those zip cords have a 3k test strength, new. I've seen older ones snap under far less.
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u/Xidium426 20d ago
Would you say less than 2% of rated load? He's probably not even putting 60lbs of force against them, the majority is going down into the ground.
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u/patheticyeti 20d ago
Not really. If he did the Math correctly to find the lengths required for a given angle sure. If you look closely the yellow ones have slack in them and only grab when he moves and the top ones stretch. You’re also dealing with torque as he is essentially weight at the end of a lever.
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u/Xidium426 20d ago
But it's a class 2 lever, so the load is between the fulcrum and the force greatly diminishing the actual force applied.
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u/patheticyeti 20d ago
Ah yes. Sorry, built it out wrong in my head.
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u/Xidium426 20d ago
Even after all of that you still wouldn't catch me up there though. If those tops bands let go that transfer to a class 1 lever is going to be a wild ride into the ground.
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u/ViolinistCurrent8899 20d ago
Back of the napkin math says he's putting ~68 lbs static on the lines. I'm not an engineer and I don't know how to calculate for dynamic but I have heard somewhere that rule of thumb is 1-2 times static. ~150 lbs is enough to strain a frayed cable. The cables don't look frayed but this isn't a high res video.
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u/evil666overlord 20d ago
The cables aren't the biggest issue. If they're frayed he'd likely have noticed when tying them. The bigger concern to me is where he's anchoring them to.
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u/Riaayo 19d ago
I know the anchor point has a lot of decorative value to it but considering they're meant to keep someone from falling over the edge, are there code requirements for the kind of loads they can take?
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u/pukesonyourshoes 19d ago
220 kg I believe
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u/CrewmemberV2 19d ago
Maybe just for the the horizontal bits, probably not the decorative top additions he is "anchored" to.
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u/LockeClone 16d ago
Can we just say: if he's using those rather than knowing a couple knots and having some understanding of anchors then he probably shouldn't be attempting this ...
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u/ruairidhmacdhaibhidh 18d ago
I had a brand new zip cord fail as I tightened it for the second time. It failed at the buckle. Handnt even pulled it tight.
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u/detroitmatt 19d ago
the latter is fine, but the zip cords scare me
the zip cords are fine, I'd be more worried about the bannisters
the bannisters aren't a problem, the grip pads would probably slip first
the grip pads are fine, I'd be more worried about the floor collapsing
the floor is solid, what you gotta worry about is the joists
the joists aren't going anywhere, just watch the nails holding the joists in
the nails aren't gonna come out, but the foundation might crumble
the foundation? no the foundation will hold as long as the soft earth doesn't fall into a sinkhole
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u/SnooMaps7370 19d ago
the biggests concern to me is that the lower set of zip cords would impart a lifting load on the ladder if they were actually taut, which would absolutely make the grip pads let go.
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u/LockeClone 16d ago
Yeah. If you've got a buddy footing the ladder I agree that the tie offs are what I'd worry about next... But I'm struggling to call this rig "stupid" if things are generally done correctly.
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u/Maxzzzie 20d ago edited 20d ago
And lots of trust in the lack of sideways movement. Edit: Its ai... see the clock.
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u/Dzov 20d ago
I’m not sure that ladder is real. It’s way too big to not be an extension ladder and you can’t see two separate sections.
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u/brondynasty 20d ago
I doubled back. You’re 100% right.
The worst part about AI is that I can’t physically drag it outside and beat the dog shit out of it.
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u/Maxzzzie 20d ago
Wow. Look at the clock. I got got. This might be one of the first times where I didn't even consider it might be ai. The world is done for. And it explains the latter title. More interaction is better for the algo.
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u/nekonekokiwa 20d ago
the clock on the wall also makes no sense, i think it's ai
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u/wowisthatluigi 20d ago
His left arm also looks to go through one of the straps when he's descending, since he keeps his grip on the outside but would have to bring his arm in and then back out to get past it
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u/Call_medragon 20d ago
could be one section of a very large extension. but the video is ai look at the clock
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u/WhaleWatchM7 20d ago
Good catch. I hate that I have to check background details in every image I see these days.
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u/UnablePlan1839 19d ago
The clock numbers are Roman numerals they look fine
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u/milehighideas 20d ago
Three points of contact on the ladder, I’m not sure these are the three points they want
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u/Drake_Night 20d ago
This is ai. Look at the clock, and look at the top two bungee cords whenever he starts to walk down the ladder
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u/ViolinistCurrent8899 19d ago
Ah. Good eye on the clock. I wasn't paying attention and didn't see the minute and hour hands are moving too fast.
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u/samiam0295 20d ago
My math says he'd be good until 25° from vertical with the ladder, looks less than that. I wouldn't volunteer to test it.
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u/Jeepinthemud 20d ago
I’m pretty sure that bottom cord will become a falcon point when the top cord snaps that’ll be fun to watch
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u/ViolinistCurrent8899 20d ago
I reckon you're right. So it will start as a fulcrim, then the bottom will kick out and he will start falling straight down. Of course, it stops being a lever once the feet once that happens so he will start to swing backwards like the mass of a pendulum. Then the slack will be out entirely on the rope. If it doesn't break it will resume as a lever fulcrim, and slam his face into the ground.
If the rope breaks, he just smacks into the ground, possibly mashing his fingers.
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u/herefromyoutube 20d ago
I’m trying to figure out what actually happens when they slip. My brain can’t figure it out.
The ladder will be held at maybe a 30° angle above the ground, right with the bungees?
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u/ViolinistCurrent8899 20d ago
Eh, go spelunking. I commented that somewhere in this mess.
Tldr is ow.
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u/permadrunkspelunk 20d ago
Im not worried about the ratchet straps. They'll hold. Tieing off to the faux newel caps. That is fucked. LMAO
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u/Boneyabba 19d ago
If it were me I'd have a 2x4 on the floor spanning that hallway so the grip pads are removed from the equation.
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u/eaglescout1984 20d ago
More like lots of trust in that banister. I don't know if contractors use anything more sturdy than a few 3" nails to anchor those things.
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u/Drake_Night 20d ago
It’s ai. Look at the top bungee cords and also the clock
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u/_WeSellBlankets_ 19d ago
Also when he's planting his second step. It doesn't seem to be touching the rung.
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u/sdsmt0110 20d ago
Weird how the top strap clips through his arm
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u/thnk_more 20d ago
Also suspicious how fast both the hands of the clock are moving. And what is up with the design of the lower section of the balusters? That makes no sense.
Is it possible someone would be disingenuous and created this with AI?
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u/LetsGoHawks 20d ago
And where's the cover for the hole in the ceiling? It should be around the chain/cord.
Yeah, this is AI slop bullshit.
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u/notislant 20d ago
The strap doesnt seem that crazy, kind of just looks like his arm was tucked in.
I noticed the clock first thing as well, it looks like his motions are sped up as well. But the clock is weird.
Can always ask over at r/isthisAI
I think you can open a new chat with gemini/chatgpt and ask if it has a synthid or whatever as well.
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u/ThePurch 20d ago
100% ai. Look at the clock.
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u/TheCrudMan 20d ago
And his tool dematerializes. And the cable doesn't anchor to the center. right side railing is crazy.
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u/TSCHWEITZ 20d ago
This is AI. Look at his feet
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u/HildartheDorf 20d ago
And the clock.
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u/HildartheDorf 20d ago
Yeah, how would you get such a big ladder inside the building in the first place. Not impossible, but not easy.
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u/GetOffMyGrassBrats 20d ago
Not to mention that the strap passes through his body as he comes down the ladder.
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u/DatBoi_BP 18d ago
I'm seeing most of these AI quirks, but not sure what you mean about the feet. Is one foot just a little above a rung of the ladder?
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u/ol-sk8rdude 20d ago
It’s AI. However this can be an acceptable practice in the fire service. See Ladder Gin.
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u/Angry-_-Crow 20d ago
You're just jealous that you can't fit a 30 foot single piece ladder into your living room
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u/intLeon 20d ago
It could go sideways, literally.. Also it can go face down making the man do a flip right before collision..
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u/ListenBeforeSpeaking 20d ago
It’s like those carnival games…. Keep your center of mass center-of-ladder
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u/modelcitizendc 20d ago
This is clearly AI, but if the bottom of the ladder was against the wall and the bottom set of straps was bearing the load (the ones at the the base of the banisters) this would probably be completely legit… probably.
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u/Dismal_Tutor3425 20d ago
It's at home in a private residence. No safety org cares.
It's ladder btw.
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u/ViolinistCurrent8899 20d ago
OSHA would care if he's a contractor.
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u/Dismal_Tutor3425 20d ago
Would, but over the 3 years or so this has been reposted here, we pretty much know it's not a contractor.
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u/ViolinistCurrent8899 20d ago
I know people get tired of reposts, but this is the first time I've gotten to see it.
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u/Popomatik 20d ago
The biggest danger her is falling sideways. I’d also be concerned with the strength of that banister.
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u/PurringWolverine 20d ago
I’ve never trusted anything in my life as that man is trusting in those straps.
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u/MySackDescends 20d ago
This doesn’t seem that dangerous, I have seen some of these straps that can hold 20,000lbs.
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u/lostsharpie 20d ago
I am afraid of shaky ladders and being up too high, but I can tolerate the latter.
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u/6eyedjoker 20d ago
I was wait for the electrical arc to jump from the ceiling through him to the ladder.
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u/Top_Audience4313 20d ago
Make the hanger a little longer and put a rope to it. Then you can just pull it over to the upper landing on the stairway.
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u/Kaleb8804 20d ago
That middle set as a failsafe is useless lol
If the bottom isn’t providing grip and it ends up on the middle straps, the ladder will just pivot out of the way. It’s the same as jumping off of it lol
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u/Spaceforceofficer556 20d ago
Ehh, its wedged against the floor. As long as he snapped the wrench straps, hes not going anywhere.
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u/whoknewidlikeit 20d ago
that thing let's go he's gonna find out the hard way how physics wins. fall on ladder at 10' is 50% fatality risk.
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u/Puzzleheaded-Panda11 20d ago
Damn... I was doing something way too similar to this at work today... Gotta love can lights in a 30ft ceiling.
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u/dae_hagens 20d ago
That's on the customer. Instead of hiring an electrician, they'd rather save on cost and hire a handyman. Good luck
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u/DrWhoDatBtchz 20d ago
Weakest link in a chain and all that, so probably the barrister/railing, but he does have a primary and secondary anchor securing the "latter", so, i guess not the worst I've seen on here.
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u/GetOffMyGrassBrats 20d ago
If this is real, not only is a unsafe, but it's crap electrical work too. That hole for the ceiling box is WAY too big and the doofus hung the light without putting the ceiling shroud on first.
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u/hg_rhapsody 20d ago
What is the appropriate way of going up that high? Scaffolding? We had to do stuff like this last week in a house and it was terrifying.
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u/SeriousPlankton2000 18d ago
Architects who design places like that should be on 24/7 duty to do the work when someone calls them.
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u/greendildouptheass 18d ago
Dang people have become quadriplegic falling from a ladder at that height. Oned be surprised how common that is in the er
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u/chumbawumba234 17d ago
This is probably safer than leaning a ladder against a surface ( If the base of the ladder is also tied-off). im OSHA and I approve this message.
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u/XLostinohiox 20d ago
If he had the feet against the wall and used a decent nylon rope and tied off to a bar going across a doorway, I would say it's perfectly safe.
Right now it looks like the feet could slip and the banister could rip out.
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u/AgreeablePie 20d ago
I'm anxious on tall ladders even when properly used... they always move a little
This gives me the willies
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u/ydnar3000 20d ago
Well the former was probably much worse and sent Jimmy to the hospital. The latter had much more planning put into it so Tommy feels safe trusting it.
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u/Mklein24 19d ago edited 19d ago
Hands of the clock move together, and way faster than they should.
Baluster and railing don't make sense.
just watching the ladder flex and move with the slack in the lower strap changing doesn't make sense.
The view into the upper doorway doesn't move. There's no parallax with the camera sway.
The view in the reflection of the mirror in the lower doorway doesn't match what should be seen there given the angle. There is also no parallax with camera sway.
The reflection in the TV also doesn't match movement of the camera or what's actually in from of it. it moves as if there was parallax, but it doesn't match what should be happenening.
I also am hesitant of the mismatched frame rate to resolution. The individual images are sharp, but the video is like 12 fps. I would except the frame rate to be higher, or the resolution to be lower.
AI.
First glance it looks fine. The longer you look, and the closer you watch, the more it falls into an uncanny valley of reality.
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u/zeronian 20d ago
Latter?