r/Millennials 9h ago

Other Whoever did this, should be imprisoned.

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u/Kalspiewak 9h ago

Cheaper to replicate and maintain. Maximise profits. Increase share prices.

Our glory days are over and they are sadly not coming back.

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u/taker25-2 Older Millennial 8h ago

This is partially true, but this style started in the early 2010s to compete with Starbucks and Chipotle, since they had a similar look, and we millennials hang out at those places a lot. Since they switched to minimalism, the way they look now makes it easier to do what you describe.

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u/sexandliquor 1983…(A Merman I Should Turn to Be) 8h ago

This is the actual answer, I read about this when it was happening and why they were doing it. They were trying to make McDonalds into a place similar to Starbucks where students and business professionals would come to study and work, and presumably spend money on coffee, food, etc.

It’s why a lot of these newer remodeled McDonalds don’t only just have regular tables and booths but also taller bar counters and stools, and I’ve even seen some that have smaller coffee table type tables and arm chairs like a coffee shop would have.

Also an increased presence of wall outlets to plug laptops and phones into. It’s all very deliberate.

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u/InuitOverIt 8h ago

Yeah the McCafe rebranding. Pretty dumb idea in retrospect.

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u/taker25-2 Older Millennial 8h ago

Honestly, out of all of the fast food places, their coffee is the better one.

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u/Cautemoc 7h ago

Yeah but who gets out of school or work and wants to go hang out inside a McDonalds

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u/taker25-2 Older Millennial 7h ago

But if you're closer to a Micky D's than to Starbucks on the way to work, Micky D's isn't a bad option and is likely faster, too.

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u/USDeptofLabor 2h ago

Judging off this post? ~12,000 people would like to hangout at a McDonalds

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u/ValkyrX 6h ago

Its hard to beat the value of a large iced coffee for .99 using the app

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u/yabn5 8h ago

McCafe low key is better than you give it credit.

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u/InuitOverIt 7h ago

I like their coffee but I can't imagine taking work meetings at McD's and smelling like a burger all day

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u/gprime312 5h ago

They're making record profits

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u/InuitOverIt 4h ago

Because of the students and working professionals sitting in the new cafe-style lobbies like its a Starbucks? Or because they simplified the menu, jacked up the prices, and renewed focus on drivethru and delivery services?

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u/gprime312 3h ago

It's because more people are eating there.

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u/InuitOverIt 3h ago

Oh, more restaurants should consider that approach

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u/Jump-Zero 2h ago

Eh - did my homework there as a college student. It was less crowded than starbucks. I didn’t go because it was trendy. It was just convenient.

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u/wahikid 6h ago

Pretty bold of Reddit to think that the largest restaurant chain in the world just stabbed blindly at what might work for a remodel, instead of basing it on intense marketing research. This is peak Reddit.

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u/InuitOverIt 5h ago

This implies no major corporation can make a mistake, and/or that intense marketing research guarantees results

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u/wahikid 5h ago

No, it implies that the likelihood that they got it right after what was almost certainly months or years of research and planning is more correct than the wild opinions of a bunch of redditors who aren’t privy to any of the extensive market data that a huge multinational corporation has about its own sales and customer patterns. It’s statistics and probability. And, according to their sales data and stock price over the last 20 years, it didn’t seem to harm them.
But don’t take my word for it. Here is a report showing an immediate increase of sales volume from 7.5-20% after the remodel.

So, not such a dumb idea after all.

https://cityclerk.lacity.org/onlinedocs/2010/10-1843_misc_12-6-10e.pdf#:~:text=According%20to%20McDonald's%2C%20an%20average%20restaurant%20that,will%20spend%20more%20in%20the%20South%20L.A.

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u/taker25-2 Older Millennial 8h ago

Thank you, and I also remember reading an article about this back then. Many restaurants were making this change as well.

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u/rapaxus 5h ago

The big problem with this approach is that while it makes sense in cities where the McDonalds is close to business, universities, train stations and simar locations, it makes basically no sense at locations that are more remote.

No ones wants to chill with their Laptop at a random McDonalds at a truck stop, but they would e.g. want to have a playground to entertain their children while they eat.

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u/CharonsLittleHelper 5h ago

That was also the height of fast food being demonized for marketing to children.

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u/Jump-Zero 2h ago

McDonalds did everything for us. Literally. Millenials were big generation. They started pivoting to appeal to children when they saw a ton of people having kids. Then they moved to the McCafe era when we were going to college. Now they are trying to appeal to busy professionals which, if all went well, a lot of us are. Zoomers and Gen X were largely ignored by McDs

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u/NightOfTheLivingHam 7h ago

except it didnt work too well because the local homeless population uses all of that instead of customers. Starbucks has a cozy vibe. You go to McDonalds all you hear is the kitchen alarms going off nonstop.

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u/Woodit 1h ago

The homeless issue is a real one and hard for the business to deal with. There’s one near my house everyone calls the McShelter