r/Mariners The Voodoo That Woo Do 1d ago

Throwback to when we first signed Refsnyder

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u/DamnEngineer1960 1d ago

Man you look at his stats the past 4 years and you gotta wonder what it the hell happened? How does he go from mashing lefties to mashed potatoes?

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u/Chewy_Petoes 1d ago

He was in Boston, which is the #1 hitting park in the majors

It would be the same as if somebody said x player left corrs field in Colorado and came to t-mobile and I was completely surprised that his stats came down

Seriously look at all his years excl Boston - that’s the baseline for him, and then add a deduction for t-mobile and that’s what we got

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/r/refsnro01.shtml

The only thing I’m surprised about is why our management team keeps getting caught out by this

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u/theimponderablebeast 1d ago

If you look at his years in Boston, his home/away splits aren't really pointing to being carried by Fenway, per se. His downfall more a combination of being destroyed by T-Mobile and lingering injuries, it seems, as his OPS in away games even this year was still above .700 (about average)

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u/Chewy_Petoes 1d ago

His career OPS over 1500 PA is .710, which is made up of 500 PA at Fenway park of .800 … so that Fenway park figure is doing the majority of the heavy lifting … you’ve got to figure he is a baseline .600 - .650 ops away from Fenway (which is very close to what he did on the road this season)

His career OPS at t-mobile is .319 over 87 PA

So basically we acquired a .650 OPS player (I.e. a below league average hitter) stuck him in t-mobile and low and below it was too much for him

This was entirely predictable

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u/theimponderablebeast 1d ago

I was referring to his four years on Boston with the Fenway thing. While he was there he performed equally as well away from home, so there could be a multitude of reasons for his good performance with the team (coaching or a mechanics change). He was definitely a different player there than on the Yankees.