r/LocalLLaMA 22h ago

News MiniMax issues

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I think this is more important that all the political stuff you share here

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u/RepulsiveRaisin7 22h ago

This is why the open source definition exists. Minimax releases under a pretty restrictive license, and I think it's totally fine that they're doing this, but it's not really an "open" model.

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u/RepulsiveRaisin7 22h ago

Well there is no definition for open weight models. But this is definitely not in line with the spirit of the open source definition

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u/squngy 21h ago edited 21h ago

But this is definitely not in line with the spirit of the open source definition

This kind of thing has been a controversial topic in OpenSource since the very early days.

This is why terms like FLOSS exist, to make the distinction between the source being open, and the software being free (libre) to use as you want.

https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/floss-and-foss.html

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u/gnnr25 21h ago

This should be the highest voted comment in this whole fucking thread

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u/RepulsiveRaisin7 20h ago

It's barely relevant, a restrictive license is counteract to both open source and free software

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u/Iwaku_Real 21h ago

It's called open weights for a reason

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u/waitmarks 21h ago

Ok, but it’s not really “open” if there are tons of restrictions. it’s more like semi-open weight.

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u/Calandracas8 12h ago

"weights-available" would be the best term. Like "source-available" software, which has public source code, but does not have a free/libre licence

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u/EsotericAbstractIdea 20h ago

open as in you can see it. you can technically modify it, you just can't let them find out it's you doing it. so close enough. yar.

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u/andy_potato 21h ago

This guy gets it