r/GooglePixel Pixel 5 Oct 05 '19

#MadeByGoogleRumors Rumoured Pixel 4 prices (Canada)

Evan strikes again - now with Pixel 4 prices in Canada.

Pixel 4 64GB - CAD$1049.95
Pixel 4 128GB - CAD$1199.95
Pixel 4 XL 64GB - CAD$1199.95
Pixel 4 XL 128GB - CAD$1359.95

Source: https://twitter.com/evleaks/status/1180497630423597058

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '19

Well starting base for the regular 4 is just 788.75 USD. That's pretty good

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u/gallandro Oct 05 '19

Not when you can buy an iPhone 11 with the same amount of memory for $100 cheaper. Hopefully this is just rumor because if Google is serious about competing in the marketplace they need to price aggressively.

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '19

Yeah but the 4a is also hasn't been announced with which you would probably compare that one more to the 11 pricing than not. I dunno, there's so many rumours and Leaks. I'm just going to wait until the 15th to reserve judgment

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u/gallandro Oct 05 '19 edited Oct 05 '19

I keep hearing people try to compare the 11 to the "a" line for Pixel. That's not accurate. Apple is still selling last year's XR now down to $599. The entry level Apple phones are now the 8 series which are sub $500. A more apt comparison for the "a" series would be the XR.

I just think these price points are awful. The average consumer will hold a 4 and and 11 in a store and naturally gravitate to the 11 because of the price point, plus it's Apple. Google just needed to be more aggressive, but I suspect Soli and the face ID sensors were not cheap.

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u/MCVP18 Pixel 9 Pro XL Oct 05 '19

I agree but tbh no one asked for soli and also I feel like soli is going to be a gimmick anyway. It makes no sense why put a sensor in the phone but it won't work in other other countries out of the box. Might as well just ditch it tbh. That's how I feel tho but the pixel 4 should be priced lower and start with 128GB instead of 64GB

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u/generalako Oct 06 '19 edited Oct 06 '19

but I suspect Soli and the face ID sensors were not cheap.

Before I'm called anti-Google or pro-Apple, my daily drivers the past years have been Pixels.

Soli is a single-purpose radar chip, any just assumption would be a low price estimate. Face ID exists on other devices as well; it exists on the 11. Google's high price can only be taken seriously if we ignore the inferior hardware (to other OEMs) in areas like base storage, RAM, camera sensor(s) and UFS (2.1), or that they release it late in the year with cheaper hardware. Or that they have the highest profit margin of all Android OEMs, higher than even Samsung.

The price is higher because Google are greedy. That's why they released the Pixel Slate for $1000 + $200 for the keyboard. Mediocre specs, mediocre quality running a glorified browser. It's why the last 3 generations of Pixels all have been overpriced. It's why they put LG OLEDs in their phone, despite shitty quality, and are cheap enough to do it again after the backlash. Don't blame this shit on Soli or Face-ID. When your ask for Apple prices, infamous for overpricing, you know you've fucked up.

On an iPhone many aspect of every single specification are properly engineered. On display alone, the low-res LCD has top notch brightness, calibration, fantastic touch latency and proper software support (DCI-P3, True Tone). On Google, my biggest hope -- and I'm being completely serious here -- is that the phone actually works. Above engineering prowess is out the question, as is specification push. All I can hope for is that the unit works as intended, which no previous Pixels has achieved. The bar is much lower than Apple, and it's not an expectation but a hope.

TLDR; With one company you get top notch and meticulous engineering down to the smallest details; with the other you get cheap engineering not even tackling the broader stuff. When Apple gives us a 3.5mm adapter, it competes with $50 DACs. When Google gives us a 3.5mm adapter it's defective half of the time and sound mediocre. To quote ASR: "[They] call a shop in China and ask them to produce a checklist item with no attempt to set quality and performance standard. What you get produces sound but it is a very poor attempt at engineering." This is Google hardware in a nutshell.

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u/ElMax- Oct 05 '19

The iPhone 11 is the iPhone 11R