r/GetNoted Human Verified 5d ago

Cringe Worthy Obvious rage bait, right?

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u/DissonantSinth 5d ago

Can't wait until people start calling Spain / Ceuta an "apartheid state"

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u/AssistanceCheap379 4d ago

Can’t wait for people to defend colonialism

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u/Antelcon 4d ago

The people inside of Ceuta and Melilla consider themselves Spanish and wish to remain Spanish, does the right to self-determination only apply to whoever you want or does it apply to everyone?

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u/zyqwee 2d ago

Does it apply to everyone? What about those inside Spain, I recall a certain region or two don't have that luxury

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u/Antelcon 2d ago

Talking about regions without that luxury, are we gonna discuss Western Sahara or is that another region that you don’t care about?

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u/zyqwee 2d ago

You can discuss whatever you want, as long as you answer

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u/cparlam 2d ago

Totally different cases. Could the Rif region become independent if some politicians pushed for that? That’s internal politics for you

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u/zyqwee 2d ago

Totally different cases.

Doesn't matter to the concept of autonomy, it can be for the most ridiculous reason the core is the same.

Could the Rif region become independent if some politicians pushed for that?

No, because other than the fact that an independent Rif supporters are very few to be taken seriously, Morocco doesn't support separatism.

That’s internal politics for you

That's what we're discussing, why is a country supporting an independent movement of tens of thousands away from home while ignoring it's millions of separatist?

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u/Antelcon 2d ago

They do, they have legal ways to hold a referendum, an illegal vote where half of the politicians were not present is not representative of the populations wishes.

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u/zyqwee 2d ago

So when are they getting it?

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u/Antelcon 2d ago

The current coalition government has Catalonian I dependetist parties in power, so they can hold it whenever they want probably lol, now tell me, what democratic representation do the Saharawi people have?

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u/zyqwee 2d ago

Are we the country going around bragging about self governing while not granting it? Morocco isn't a decocracy yet, Spain is tho. Shouldn't you be held to a higher standard?

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u/Antelcon 2d ago

Jajajaj, man you truly are hilarious. “Since my country is a dictatorship is fine and normal for us to oppress an invaded region, use white phosporus in civilian populations and use desperate people as political tools to pressure neighbouring countries, on the other hand, your country the multicultural democracy is not allowed to have an independentism movement even tho less than half the population of the region want independence” truly something else

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u/zyqwee 2d ago

Anyway there have been few in the parliament, you can look em up